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Let's talk about Donald Trump and the situation.

#81
dude y'all know Trump isn't right.

you peoples keep making all these long azz post about, 'I told you so'

bottom line is...what the fuck is donald agenda until the next election?

so far he's going to keep korea from making nuclear weapons against the good ole u.s.a.

but, this ain't about that.

god bless america.

tooooo long 'saint', didn't read.
 
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jack

The Legendary Troll Kingdom
#83
Hey Charles, don't argue with whatshisname. he only does it to argue, since (for example) what really happened with Trump in NK was the same fake bullshit fakeness he espouses everywhere.

Here are some takeaways from the "sum hit"

North Korea got Trump to:

Give them their desired world stage

Avoid ANY discussion of their human rights violations

End military exercises with South Korea

Hint at ending NATO in South Korea

Attack NATO allies as "cheap"

And all without getting anything in return.

Now, THAT'S dealmaking. You redneck 1/3 of the country that voted for that orange fuck should be proud. "Art of the Deal" indeed.
 
#84
Just a pertinent quote:

Let’s put aside what 70 years of the status quo have wrought in places like Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya, and focus on North Korea. Those of us who live in the real world, those of us no longer blinded by the hotness of the takes, are still able to recall — because it was only last year — when this precious status quo resulted in a North Korea that held our hostages, launched countless missiles, regularly threatened nuclear war, and was the proud owner of the Punggye-ri nuclear testing facility.

Today, thanks to President Change Agent, those hostages are home, Kim’s missiles have stopped flying, the threats of nuclear war have ceased, and Punggye-ri is reportedly no more.

And if this is as far as Trump gets with Kim, he will still have been more successful with North Korea than any president ever.
So, as usual, Jack is so full of left-wing partisan shit that he's sweating raw sewage. Trump could single-handedly cure cancer and Jack would bitch that the man is "cruelly separating parents from their melanomas."
 

jack

The Legendary Troll Kingdom
#85
So "right wing conservative partisan hack"...what did we get in return? Forget Punggye-re, you already know the "destruction" was of an already destroyed reactor. Even Breitbart admits this was nothing other than optics and convenience. Any other definition is spin.

Seriously though, what did we get in return? I know you love crumbs, but geez kid....
 

jack

The Legendary Troll Kingdom
#87
Ah then, he gave away everything and we got nothing in return. Got it.

btw, using Charles as a straw man actually makes him look intelligent compared to the uninformed ignorance you're attempting to unsuccesfully spew.
 

jack

The Legendary Troll Kingdom
#88
Here's some true facts: North Korea previously pledged denuclearization in 1985, 1992, 1994, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2016.Each pledge was a complete fabrication. All of them. If you believe any promise Kim made to Trump, I have five failed casinos in Atlantic City to sell you.
 

Charlemagne

Holy Roman Emperor
#89
Here's some true facts: North Korea previously pledged denuclearization in 1985, 1992, 1994, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2016.Each pledge was a complete fabrication. All of them. If you believe any promise Kim made to Trump, I have five failed casinos in Atlantic City to sell you.
The sad thing is, Jack, unlike his past self, the current Saint wouldn't recognize a fact if he saw one having a threesome with his parents.

He'd probably be JEALOUS of the fact, but he still wouldn't recognize it. My, how the mighty have fallen.

What makes this so sad, is that The Saint I knew when I first joined TK back in 2010 wasn't a frothing loony. He was conservative, yes, but intelligent and reasonable. Now? Now, his posts read like he spends his whole life drunk off his ass, while circle-jerking with Dave Cullen and Sargon of Akkad.
 
#90
dammit peoples, I totally lied. I tried to make this thread about sports. I tried to to make the new 'bertshocka' my bitch.

but

carry on folks. this america vr. korea thing is vantabous. I love it!

trump-pa-lump stopped the japanese attack on america with nuclear war fair. now we can kick their asses the old fashion way.

punchem in the mouth donald, with that million bucks in your back pocket, and put them on Obama care, with welfare.
 
#91
Here's some true facts: North Korea previously pledged denuclearization in 1985, 1992, 1994, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2016.Each pledge was a complete fabrication. All of them. If you believe any promise Kim made to Trump, I have five failed casinos in Atlantic City to sell you.
Yeah, I saw that meme on Facebook, too. But somehow, you made 'funny' into 'just sad'. Oh, and by the way, how many of those previous promises came with the release of hostages, a cessation of testing, and the destruction of nuke-related facilities? If you can't be bothered to think for yourself, at least outsource the task to somebody other than imbeciles.
 
#92
The sad thing is, Jack, unlike his past self, the current Saint wouldn't recognize a fact if he saw one having a threesome with his parents.

He'd probably be JEALOUS of the fact, but he still wouldn't recognize it. My, how the mighty have fallen.

What makes this so sad, is that The Saint I knew when I first joined TK back in 2010 wasn't a frothing loony. He was conservative, yes, but intelligent and reasonable. Now? Now, his posts read like he spends his whole life drunk off his ass, while circle-jerking with Dave Cullen and Sargon of Akkad.
That must be a very comforting visual. Keeps you warm and snug, and insulated from considering the idea that I might be right.
 

Charlemagne

Holy Roman Emperor
#93
That must be a very comforting visual. Keeps you warm and snug, and insulated from considering the idea that I might be right.
Who's the arrogant one, again?

Goddamn, your posts are reminding me of Luci.

And I have considered the idea that you might be right. It took me roughly a minute to reject it, after going over it a few times, but I DID consider it.
 
#95
Who's the arrogant one, again?
The one who has to do this:

Now, his posts read like he spends his whole life drunk off his ass, while circle-jerking with Dave Cullen and Sargon of Akkad.
I expect Jack to resort to mischaracterization like that; he's such an habitual moron that, for him, stupidity is just a reflex. But you haven't been at it as long as he has. For you, I suspect, it's a choice -- and it's an understandable choice. You felt the need to construct a caricature like that because it makes ridicule easier. When ridicule is all you've got, as options go, you wouldn't want to feel like you failed at that, too.

But you have.
 

Charlemagne

Holy Roman Emperor
#96
So, you're allowed to fling insults then, but anyone else who does it is just "an arrogant elitist"? That's one hell of a double-standard ya got there. That cognitive dissonance actually reminds me of a customer I saw at work, who had a "Trump" T-shirt on, and "1 Timothy 6:10" tattooed on her arm. Ya know, the verse that claims that "the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil"?


What's clear now, Saint, is that you are little more than a paranoid xenophobe who's angry that the rest of the board doesn't share your views - aside from your fellow WordForge rejects - all the while dismissing any claims that run counter to your worldview, much like you accuse your opposition of doing. You ignore the personal experiences of others, who tell you about the stupidity and willful ignorance they see first hand IRL every fucking day, saying that "that's only stupid from the perspective of the elite" - want me to tell you the unicorn story? If you say THAT'S "only stupid from the perspective of the elite", you clearly need your brain examined, because that was just stupid, PERIOD. You cite sources that are known to be so far to the right as to be unreliable at best, and propaganda at worst as "the only good sources".

As for arrogance, you called yourself a "Skin Of Evil"-level troll, boasting about how people on other boards won't shut up about you after you've been banned - which, by the way, is something that Luci used to do all the time, if you remember his threads about how him getting himself banned from various boards somehow "made him a god". Face it Saint, you aren't a troll on the scale that SkinofEvil was. The reason you got kicked out of those other forums was because the people there got fed up with your paranoia, your xenophobia, and your arrogance, not because you started a shitshow that caused one forum to experience a drama-fest so huge, that it required the creation of several other boards just to somewhat contain.

And as I've said multiple times. The sad thing is, you WEREN'T ALWAYS LIKE THIS. You used to be one of my favorite TKers. Always there with a witty remark to remind people like Blackfoot, TriggerFox, Daystrom, Imperium, and Luci of their places as this board's version of soil bacteria. You helped make Starguard's "Turkey Murderers" thread what it is - a classic that even non-TKers love. You were witty, insightful, with a great, warped sense of humor. Now, though.... all those traits seem to have evaporated. More and more, I find myself wondering "what happened to The Saint I knew?".
 
#97
So, you're allowed to fling insults then, but anyone else who does it is just "an arrogant elitist"?
Everyone's allowed to fling insults. But to fling insults with a solid argument is style. To fling insults instead of a solid argument is intellectual cowardice.

That's one hell of a double-standard ya got there.
There's no double standard to that at all, nor is it cognitive dissonance. It's the art of knowing your ass from a hole in the wall.

What's clear now, Saint, is that you are little more than a paranoid xenophobe who's angry that the rest of the board doesn't share your views - aside from your fellow WordForge rejects - all the while dismissing any claims that run counter to your worldview, much like you accuse your opposition of doing.
Inaccurate. If you look back and read clearly, you'll see that I have addressed every claim, even Jack's recitation of a Facebook meme, and rebutted each.

You cite sources that are known to be so far to the right as to be unreliable at best, and propaganda at worst as "the only good sources".
If your only problem with them is where they fall on the political spectrum -- rather than their actual reporting -- then you're being intellectually cowardly. Even Huffington Post and Mother Jones occasionally get things right -- but you have to actually read them to find out whether any given claim in any given article they publish is valid or not. Pointing at them with a grimace and a trembling fist makes you the monkey from Chris Griffin's closet, not a skeptic.

As for arrogance, you called yourself a "Skin Of Evil"-level troll, boasting about how people on other boards won't shut up about you after you've been banned - which, by the way, is something that Luci used to do all the time, if you remember his threads about how him getting himself banned from various boards somehow "made him a god". Face it Saint, you aren't a troll on the scale that SkinofEvil was. The reason you got kicked out of those other forums was because the people there got fed up with your paranoia, your xenophobia, and your arrogance, not because you started a shitshow that caused one forum to experience a drama-fest so huge, that it required the creation of several other boards just to somewhat contain.
And that rant has what to do with the topic of the thread? And oh, yes -- that was a rant. Borderline meltdown level. Fukushima is grumbling under its breath at that post.

And as I've said multiple times. The sad thing is, you WEREN'T ALWAYS LIKE THIS. You used to be one of my favorite TKers. Always there with a witty remark to remind people like Blackfoot, TriggerFox, Daystrom, Imperium, and Luci of their places as this board's version of soil bacteria. You helped make Starguard's "Turkey Murderers" thread what it is - a classic that even non-TKers love. You were witty, insightful, with a great, warped sense of humor. Now, though.... all those traits seem to have evaporated. More and more, I find myself wondering "what happened to The Saint I knew?".
And is it your hope -- your fervent hope -- that this whole screed of yours is supposed to make me say, "Hmmm... well, maybe there wasn't an historic face-to-face meeting in Singapore between NK's and the US's heads of state. Why, maybe the Nork missiles are still flying, and the Crazy Fat Kid is still threatening to nuke us. Golly, maybe those hostages weren't released, after all."

You know better than to appeal to my emotions like this. You know it doesn't work. So what's your malfunction? Have you taken a sharp blow to the head recently?
 

jack

The Legendary Troll Kingdom
#98
Some of us actually know what's happening, and don't drink the kool aid. Some fling poo around and say it's gold.

November is coming :D
 

jack

The Legendary Troll Kingdom
#99
Besides Johnny, your hypocrisy is astounding. When Obama tried to meet with him you ranted in these very halls about how our Prez was cozying up to dictators.

So do us all a favor and exhale, occasionally. After all you'd look funny blue being a red state kinda guy and all :D
 
Besides Johnny, your hypocrisy is astounding. When Obama tried to meet with him you ranted in these very halls about how our Prez was cozying up to dictators.
Obama never tried to meet with either of the Kim's ya turd-blossom. He sent lackeys, though. Here's some context from a foaming-at-the-mouth right-wing source -- the San Diego Union Tribune.

I was talking, all that way back, about him meeting with Castro -- and looking like a total fairy when he did, too.

 
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