Starfleet Academy - It's Happening

The typewriter was one of Sisko's possessions so I assume he had one replicated after his Russell experience.

I agree with the general opinion that the problem is that there's YOUNG SEXY GAY PEOPLE in the show, but that they're doing the YA stuff poorly. Actual Young Adult shows do this stuff so much better, so young people are going to watch them instead of thinking "wow, Star Trek has a young person in it! I BETTER WATCH THAT." I looked up the writers of the episode: Kirsten Beyer is 64 and Tawny Newsome is 42. Maybe they should add actual younger people to the writing staff if they want to appeal to that demographic? Or, as Cassie said just do straight Star Trek and hope it will apeal to young people like it did to me when I was 14 and became obsessed with TNG.

In terms of the timeframe, I think they're taking license with "how these people should act in this century" because even though it's 800 years since the TNG era, it's only 130 years since The Burn, so the writers are figuring things are still sort of ragtag, and societies are still rebuilding, and the question of how everyone wants to shape the future for the galaxy is still an open one.

(BTW I stopped watching Discovery before the time jump, so I had to look up this "Burn" business after watching the first couple of eps. Man, Discovery really fucked the franchise through the headboard and into the wall. I wish they would just pretend it never happened for any future new shows...)

It's hard enough getting young people to read, never mind write.

whisky said:

It's hard enough getting young people to read, never mind write.

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The next Trek show will be sent via text.

And it's not like Lower Decks and Prodigy brought in a game-changing number of younger viewers, because they're both canceled now.

In my twenties I tried to become a writer, I wrote stories people never read, mostly adaptations of films or TV I had scene but with a character based on me as the star, but I hadn't really lived, hadn't really experienced life, and then in my 30s when life started happening, there was no time to write.

I envy published writers, they do something when I just thought about it.

I'm probably too old now to write about young people, but I do remember what it was like to be one, to not know who you are, what you are, what I would be when I grew up.

Still waiting to grow up.

I was sorta hoping for Star Trek: Legacy, but we got this dreck instead.

Sometimes they listen to the fans; SNW came about from the huge fan reaction to STD season 2 (which, truth be told, is the only season of it I actually watched).

Mentalist said:

Have you actually watched an episode of this show, or are you just parroting YouTubers farming outrage clicks off you?

The show’s messy. The few of us who’ve actually watched it are talking about it on that level. It’s genuine. Maybe it does turn into the disaster you’re hoping for and you’ll feel vindicated in whatever anti-woke crusade you’re staging in your own head.

You’ve got plenty of opinions, but none of them sound like they come from your own experience of the show. That’s pretty fucking weird. Am I wrong? No. I’m never wrong.

Go watch it. Or don’t. Just don’t sit there nodding along to some bearded virgin shouting into a ring light..

At least make it your take.

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Calm down, dude.

The Beer Hall Pooch said:

Calm down, dude.

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Pretty sure that didn't answer the question.

I never liked young-adult focused shows like Buffy or Smallville or 90210 when I was in the intended age group for them, I typically avoided them like the plague. Years later I hatewatched them because there was nothing else on cable TV at 5 am after I got home from work, so, *now* I'm sure I hate these types of shows because I never felt seen by them or that the characters/stories represented me in any way. If anything, a lot of young adult focused popular media always felt contrived and clueless to me even as a teenager; that this SFA show looks the same as all those shows ever did is perhaps what I find so dissapointing about it. Or, once again, that it more closely resembles Stargate SG-1's 200th episode send-up of dying genre TV franchises' attempts at staying relevant.

Also as a queer person I'm starting to be annoyed about the lame stereotypes. Garak was cool, "Jay-Den" is not and feels like the show is trying to make fun of me for some reason. Star Trek should strive to a level of representation that surpasses mid-90s episodes of NYPD Blue for fuck's sake. I still think they do this deliberately to rile up the right-wing hate peddlers because any engagement is good engagement when practically nobody's fucking watching your shit otherwise.

Kyehlar said:

Pretty sure that didn't answer the question.

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Pretty sure it didn't either.

But if Menty had read my previous posts, he would have had his answer.

As would you.

First use of the word spooge in star trek.

Ok episode, felt dark for the sake of it.

Also the room level to high up sex scene.

Possibly the best episode of the season.

1.6 - Definitely the best episode so far, I thought. Episode 4 had good character stuff but was a bit lacking in execution. Episode 5 varied from "good, actually" to "glitter vomit" from moment to moment. This one was consistent all the way. I should probably look into who directs each episode because I liked the feel of this one much more than the rest. No spinny camera! Definitely a better episode for Braka than the opener: he's still completely motivated by hate but it's hate with a bit more depth to it now! Giamatti can sure deliver a rant. After caling his performance "cartoonish" last week, I was pleased that Kerlrec actually felt like a believable human being here. Even the panicky cadet was actually panicking in context and not just for comedy reasons.

It's a shame they killed the Vulcan because he was good here and a better character than some of the regular cast, to be honest! Quite liked the other teacher who died at the start in his brief screentime too.

Did they say the other ship that showed up to help was Intrepid Class? Because that was Voyager's class and it didn't look anything like Voyager.

So Tarmina's brother was STILL saying that Betazoids can "feel things" implying that Tarmina is the only one able to speak telephatically (and blow up heads.) Again, I'm not saying this is a continuity error as they could explain it further later, just noting it.

Anyway, this one was actually good without caveats, hope they can keep it up.