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TV Strange New Worlds season 4

Between Kirk dying alone and knowing David will die by being stabbed, and having to see his brother die, they really played future Kirk's greatest hits.
 
Super spooky episode. Looks like La'an is still in the nightmare.
 
I'm already enjoying this season more then the last one. Though we still have the Muppet episode to come...
 
I'm already enjoying this season more then the last one. Though we still have the Muppet episode to come...

Supposedly the muppet effect will be due to a "transporter accident."

Personally, I think Pike's hair is a transporter accident.
 
I’m not sure if I like that they didn’t explain the cause, but it is novel. I guess a scientific explanation might take the edge off of how spooky it was.

Definitely unsettling.

I also wondered about the shot of George in space. I guess Kirk could still see him a bit at that point, unless he was in the lift already? It seemed a bit unnecessary to me, like the long closing shot of the dinosaurs last week. Did they have extra budget to spend? We knew he was dead already when his intestines got sucked (sorry, “blown”) out.
 
Everything wasn't just in their minds or the shuttle wouldn't have been destroyed, their fears became physical objects was my take on it.
 
It kind of reminded me of Empok Nor.
 
It kind of reminded me of Empok Nor.
Oh yeah, another scary episode that’s made more creepy because the location is a sister ship/station where things have gone very wrong.

Everything wasn't just in their minds or the shuttle wouldn't have been destroyed, their fears became physical objects was my take on it.
An evil version of “If Wishes were Horses...”. Makes sense.
 
And now light and fluffy, and what might be an incredible nod to the amount of digits James Doohan had.

Also a very TOS style slap.
 
4.3 - If this had been an episode of Lower Decks it would have been 22 minutes long and probably funnier. LIke, yeah, there were some funny parts: Una singing 'Total Eclipse of The Heart' in Klingon, the incredibly dumb but somehow funny reveal that Spock is seeing Ortegas and Scotty as plants, and a third example. Scotty and Ortegas making friends was nice. Was it enough to justify spending 10% of the season on, especially when we know there's a puppet episode coming up? In my GRUMPY opinion: no. It wasn't shit like '2 and a Half Vulcans' or anything but I'd have preferred something else.

I really don't like what they're doing with La'an this season. I know this was a comedy episode but I don't really have faith (of the heart) that they'll handle her better when it goes back to "normal."

I don't really get what Chapel's story was? She smashed a glass on the Enterprise then she got all intense playing bingo?

Doohan lost his middle finger so I wish they'd had Scotty lose the same to really make the reference work (ULTIMATE NIT-PICKING.)

The bit with M'Benga cocktailing at the end was so obviously not the actor really doing it that I wonder why they left it in the episode. Was it really vital to the story?

CLEARLY I HATE EVERYTHING.
 
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I think the entire point of the episode was for Scotty and Ortegas to become bffs. None of the other characters mattered. It was super goofy, but some of it was okay.
 
I think the entire point of the episode was for Scotty and Ortegas to become bffs. None of the other characters mattered. It was super goofy, but some of it was okay.
That was clearly the point. And I found all of it to be completely hilarious.
 
I liked the reveal that Kirk was real the whole time.
 
I liked the reveal that Kirk was real the whole time.
A little too bromancy a little too early, but I'll give that a pass too. :)

Do you need a hug?
 
I liked it.
 
I am, of course, behind and playing catch-up, but here I am after the Season 4 opener. OLD NEWS to you lot, but I'll lay my thoughts out briefly.

Umm. It was alright? Convoluted? Very. But it was still good to be back with this show and this crew.

The whole classic Jurassic Park-style T. rex thing did feel a bit throwbacky to me. I know the whole feathered T. rex thing is nowhere near as settled as people sometimes make out, but given how much our picture of dinosaurs has changed over the last few decades, it would've been cool to see them take a swing at something a little less familiar than basically giving us Rexy again. We've seen it so many times. They could've got that model off the shelf at Sketchfab.

And when I say convoluted, I do mean it. This was definitely one of those episodes where, if you squint too hard at the mechanics, the seams start to unravel. There is A LOT going on here.

That said, I actually quite like how old-school pulp sci-fi the whole thing is. Ancient Martians, a lost fifth planet where the asteroid belt should be, dinosaurs, predestination paradoxes... it's throwing a lot of very old science-fiction ideas into the pot, and I think some of that throwback feeling is probably intentional. Pike having A Princess of Mars sitting there is hardly subtle.

Cassell was a bit too monologue-heavy for me, but there was an actually interesting Trek dilemma buried in all of it, which I appreciated, even if the route they took to get there was still convoluted as hell.

I do appreciate a proper high-concept science-fiction story like this, even if it didn't hit the mark everywhere. You've got to give them props when they actually lean into the kinds of stories Star Trek can accommodate really well, rather than trying to make it resemble other things all the time. It got a bit silly last season.

Looking forward to catching up with you guys over the next few days.
 
The writer's room always start with "okay, this week we're doing [insert name of movie here]..." The season opener at least started with them saying "okay, this week we're doing a Star Trek episode."
 
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