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Bush finally utters the "V" word as Iraq "mission" deteriorates

Mentalist

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His own character, his admirers say, is marked by his resolute, from-the-gut, stick-to-it approach; his detractors call that quality a character flaw, better known as stubbornness.


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Bush admitted his Iraq caper is starting to look like Vietnam


So it is that Bush's unexpected observation that his costly Iraq boondoggle is starting to look like the United States' disastrous experience in Vietnam is no casual, throwaway remark; instead, it's a major admission of failure and, around the world, it's news.


Nowhere does it resonate more profoundly, and perhaps more painfully, it appears, then in Britain, the American ally whose leader, Prime Minister Tony Blair, sent its soldiers to fight Bush's strategyless war despite overwhelming opposition throughout the United Kingdom.


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The Commander in Chief, in costume, aboard the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln on May 1, 2003...


Bush was asked in an ABC television interview that was broadcast in the U.S. last night if he agreed with New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman, who has compared the deteriorating scene in Iraq with the Tet Offensive, one of the turning points in the war in Vietnam. Bush responded: "He could be right. There's certainly a stepped-up level of violence." (As this blog item is being posted, after ten U.S. soldiers were killed yesterday, and with the announcement of two more American casualties, the total number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq so far this month has risen to 69.) (Times) Bush asserted that al Qaeda forces that are active within Iraq "believe if they can create enough chaos, the American people will grow sick and tired of the Iraqi effort and cause the government to withdraw." (Voice of America)



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...shortly before declaring the U.S. military's "mission" in Iraq had been "accomplished"


"The U.S. administration's nerve is beginning to crack," notes Britain's Guardian in an editorial today. The paper reports that a special advisory team headed by Bush family consigliere and dutiful, Republican fix-it man James Baker III will give the president an analysis of the Iraq-war quagmire and recommendations for what to do about it soon. (That advice, apparently for political reasons, is scheduled to come after November's midterm elections.) Baker's report, it is assumed, will propose "a number of alternatives, including withdrawing troops to neighboring countries and launching targeted strikes against insurgents. Or concentrating [U.S.-led] coalition troops in Baghdad and bringing in forces from Syria and Iran to help enforce security outside the capital." (Australian)
Some observers might ask, though, how can Team Bush ever expect Iran to take part in its occupation of Iraq when it isn't even talking to the government of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Meanwhile, Blair has started to distance himself from the war he worked so hard to cook up. Yesterday, he "shifted ground on the continuing presence of British troops in Iraq by saying it was government policy to leave the country within 10 to 16 months" - if the security situation improves, that is. Still, "Blair refused to abandon his aim to secure democracy in the Middle East saying: 'I believe that the maintenance of democracy is absolutely essential for us, in Iraq and in Afghanistan.'" (Guardian, news article)


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U.S. soldiers in Vietnam: The 1968 Tet Offensive by North Vietnamese forces against those of South Vietnam and the U.S. was a turning point in the war


The Guardian's editorial notes that Blair "sounded both loud and lost, staying the course only because his opponents lack an alternative strategy. He could not create enthusiasm for his own approach when he said, once again, that Britain must 'stay until the job is done.'" The paper concludes: "Once, the prime minister's rhetorical magic could persuade others. Now, on Iraq,...Blair is the only person who still appears to be seduced by the illusion that he has created."


Retired British Army Colonel Tim Collins, who led a battalion in the Iraq invasion, writes in the Telegraph: "Three years into the occupation, with no real improvement, it is time to admit failure....Indeed, the British failure in Iraq may be characterized by history as 'ill-conceived and without enough effort.'" However, Collins notes, Britains's army "has not lost its spine....But the continued deployment to Iraq,...coupled by the muddled state of domestic government in the U.K....has struck at the roots of our military. Coupled with the further adventure in Afghanistan, our military has run out of resources."

Shutting the door on Bush-and-Blair's Iraq fiasco, Collins adds: "The end has come not because of any deeply contemplated policy decision, but because...Blair and his mates have driven our military like joyriders in a stolen car. General [Sir Richard] Dannatt has informed them that it has just run out of petrol. Let's hope they don't torch it to cover their tracks."

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The headline at ABCNews says it all:

Bush Accepts Iraq-Vietnam Comparison

For over five years I've watched the national news media strive mightily to get anyone in the Bush administration to adopt whatever 'comparison' or position of the week the media had. Now they treat this like a victory! I recall many press conferences where one asshole journalist after another would demand that Bush admit doing wrong in the Iraq war. Because that was the media template, Bush was clearly guilty of something, so why wouldn't he just admit it? Hmmm? Hmmm? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Every freakin' week of this man's presidency. Now ABC crows over their ultimate victory of supreme triumph, getting Bush to say what they want? What sort of journalism is that? What has ABC News accomplished? They could not be more silly.

So now I ask ABC News to accept this premise: Fuck yourselves, liberal Democrat assclown hacks who pretend to be journalists. And that goes for Clinton's best advisor, George Stepanopolous, alleged ABC reporter.

Did you accept that premise, ABC News? Can you go fuck yourselves? There's another political headline at ABCnews.com:

GOP Might Have Worn Out Its Strategies
Standard Republican tactics from the last three elections may no longer work with voters in 2006.

My question is, why isn't ABC News asking "Standard Democrat tactics from the last three elections may no longer work with voters"?

Bush is fighting the war on terror single-handed. Worse, he is fighting a war on two fronts, it's clear the left has declared their war against him, and they deem failure in Iraq as a victory for "their side". And what side is that? Democrats, Al-Queda, leftist news media, all one happy group. And they put themselves there!

Bush will defeat both groups of terrorists and terror supporters in November.

-Ogami
 
Ogami said:
*plrrrrp*

Hey, stupid -- the comparison's been there for years, getting stronger every day troops were still fighting after 'mission accomplished'.

Don't like it? Tough. Reality don't give a fuck, bucko.
 
Question, when are you going to realize that I am here to spread the word of love?

And that word is Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuush.

-Ogami
 
The GOP, the party for rich people, and those who want to be.

If you want government slums, government cheese, and equal poverty misery for all, by all means vote Democrat.
 
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Because we all know the trickle down theory worked so well the first time.
 
Damn it, Bad Dog!

If only we had a Democrat president in charge of this war, then we'd have that 52,000 dead Americans already. It's not fair.

-Ogami
 
Ogami said:
Damn it, Bad Dog!

If only we had a Democrat president in charge of this war, then we'd have that 52,000 dead Americans already. It's not fair.

-Ogami

Yep, we need some anti war kook fuckers telling us how to run the war :roll:

Can you imagine the speaker of the house Nancy Pelosie? Then the pussification of america will be in full swing.
 
At least she's the manliest of Democrats.

Funny how the only people Democrats go to war against are our own soldiers, or American business. With those two groups, Democrat bravery in battle has no limits. Yet when it comes to actually defending this country, they are AWOL.
 
A funny one is the old "no exit strategy for iraq" bitch.

Thats fucking stupid , how about an exit strategy for germany or bosnia,,,, Germany does not need or want us there, they do like our money spent there though.
 
I'd pull out every base in Germany and around Japan and transplant them wholesale to Iraq and Afghanistan.

-Ogami
 
The troops in germany are just having a fucking picnic anyway. they drink beer , smoke hash , eat acid , fuck whores and go drive around at 125 mph.

Thats what my friends did there anyway.
 
Exactly. I received a cool reaction, you might say, to my suggestion. Soldiers love Germany. But bases are not resorts to relax, they should be needed or they're not. Close 'em down.
 
bad dog said:
Yep, we need some anti war kook fuckers telling us how to run the war :roll:

Can you imagine the speaker of the house Nancy Pelosie? Then the pussification of america will be in full swing.

America is fighting one military campaign (and is on the verge of yet another) to settle the grudge of a country less than a tenth its own size.

It ain't in trade for anything. It ain't for favors, or because they have anything we need.

It isn't because we owe them a damn thing, either.

It's because they have sympathizers in our government who say so.

So let's review: A country that offers us nothing and can't actually do jack shit to enforce their will can still spy on us with impunity and yank our foreign policy around like we're a dog on a leash.

America has been pussifying from the top down since Roosevelt. If anything, it's the politicians saying, "No, we're not their mercenary whore!" -- regardless of the label on their politics -- that are the real Americans.
 
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