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Did he say it?

Junior Seau. Caught one between the numbers but was unable to return it for a score. He's been ruled down on the field.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the people who have to mop up in there. That's gross.
 
When Gear wins, we all win. When the Padres/Chargers win (and they don't, but if they did) Gear wins nothing. WTF?

The End
 
I'd love to read the coroner's report, because suicide by shooting oneself in the chest - damn, that's tricky.
 
Ilyanna said:
I'd love to read the coroner's report, because suicide by shooting oneself in the chest - damn, that's tricky.
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All it really takes is longer arms.

Just off the top of my head...the last pro baller who killed himself via the heart was the one...fucked if I can remember his name...who claimed for years that either head trauma, steroids or both were responsible for his mental problems. When he finally came to the point where he couldn't take it anymore, he left a note imploring doctors to examine his brain postmortem, before stabbing himself in the chest. From what I gather, the autopsy proved telling and valuable for research.

Weirdly, morbidly heroic...and I can't help but wonder, because of the similar methodology, if Seau's motives weren't also in the same vein....or perhaps he was just another boiling douche who just couldn't get a fucking grip.
 
Archibald Nixon said:
All it really takes is longer arms.
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And a steady hand. One last change of heart (hehe) and your aim is fucked up enough to let you survive if found in time, or die a slow, painful death. I always find it peculiar that people would take that risk over more certain methods.
Just off the top of my head...the last pro baller who killed himself via the heart was the one...fucked if I can remember his name...who claimed for years that either head trauma, steroids or both were responsible for his mental problems. When he finally came to the point where he couldn't take it anymore, he left a note imploring doctors to examine his brain postmortem, before stabbing himself in the chest. From what I gather, the autopsy proved telling and valuable for research.
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Problem I see with this is that as far as I know, while you can diagnose results of steroid use and head injuries, there is no way to link them directly to mental problems post mortem. You need the interaction of neurons to check if the activity of certain brain areas is abnormal or not. Even then the connection between mental disorders and the physiological functions of the brain are not proven for all cases, so it would depend on what kind of problem he had.
 
I'm going with the boiling douche theory.

I work hard to be happy with what I have. And I don't feel particularly obligated to see things from the perspective of a wealthy, world famous sports star who took the easy way out for whatever reason. I trust he checked to make sure there was no one relying on him, no one who would miss him and no one who would be crushed forever by the fact that he chose suicide and left no note before he pulled the trigger.

Fuck that asshole. What a fucking pussy.

Remember when he bombed his SUV off a cliff and claimed to have fallen asleep at the wheel? Man, some guys have it all and still can't grow a set.
 
Archibald Nixon said:
All it really takes is longer arms.

Just off the top of my head...the last pro baller who killed himself via the heart was the one...fucked if I can remember his name...who claimed for years that either head trauma, steroids or both were responsible for his mental problems. When he finally came to the point where he couldn't take it anymore, he left a note imploring doctors to examine his brain postmortem, before stabbing himself in the chest. From what I gather, the autopsy proved telling and valuable for research.

Weirdly, morbidly heroic...and I can't help but wonder, because of the similar methodology, if Seau's motives weren't also in the same vein....or perhaps he was just another boiling douche who just couldn't get a fucking grip.
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You're talking about Chicago Bears safety Dave Duerson.

Duerson took his life in February 2011 in the same fashion that police believe Seau may have done — by shooting himself in the chest. Duerson did so deliberately so his brain could be studied postmortem, btw which was what started that whole concussion/depression/suicide angle.
 
Yeah Jack said it before I did. I'm conflicted, I've had enough issues to know that when you're that far down you aren't exactly rational. On the other hand, offing yourself because you're sad and miss football seems like a slap in the face to people who have real problems like the DD and TBI people I work with every day, whose ailments are WAY more severe than any concussive issues and who still get up every day and keep plugging away.

Or guys like Aron Ralston, the kid who trapped his arm behind a boulder and cut that fucker off with a pocket knife, then hiked three miles with a bloody stump in order to live.
In the face of that, how would I possibly be able to check out because my job sucks or I'm feeling kinda blue?
 
Killing yourself means that you are desperate enough to overcome the most basic and strongest instinct we have. Imo, nobody who hasn't been at the same point can even remotely understand the level of distress a person has to feel in order to make that decision.
It doesn't matter one bit what it is that leaves a person hopeless. My guess is that this solely depends on what kind of things we value most in life. In a society that revolves around little papers with pictures on it, who are we to say what is important enough to die for?

For me, suicide is one of those things that each and every one of us has the right to decide for or against, and while it's easy to judge, we don't know the reasons why he did it. I am sorry for the people who love him, especially the gf since she has to live with that traumatic memory, but at the end of the day, all we can do is accept that some people just can't bear to live anymore.

*steps from soapbox and heads to bed*
 
There was a great magazine article --and later a full-length documentary-- about Golden Gate Bridge jumpers, where they interviewed one guy who jumped and lived to tell about it (apparently there've only been a handful of survivors over the past 70+ years, out of somewhere between 1000-2000 who've jumped). He had the greatest testimony on suicide I've ever heard, which I paraphrase:

"The second I left the railing, I thought 'I don't wanna die'. All of the mistakes in my life up to that point that I was convinced were unfixable, suddenly seemed totally fixable --except the last one."
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I guess it's a -rather extreme - example of how really life-changing things like death birth, accidents and such can put minor issues into another perspective. A 'nobody complains about boredom when they have nothing to eat' kind of thing.
 
Ilyanna said:
Killing yourself means that you are desperate enough to overcome the most basic and strongest instinct we have. Imo, nobody who hasn't been at the same point can even remotely understand the level of distress a person has to feel in order to make that decision.
It doesn't matter one bit what it is that leaves a person hopeless. My guess is that this solely depends on what kind of things we value most in life. In a society that revolves around little papers with pictures on it, who are we to say what is important enough to die for?

For me, suicide is one of those things that each and every one of us has the right to decide for or against, and while it's easy to judge, we don't know the reasons why he did it. I am sorry for the people who love him, especially the gf since she has to live with that traumatic memory, but at the end of the day, all we can do is accept that some people just can't bear to live anymore.

*steps from soapbox and heads to bed*
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I will leave all of the text, but what I really thought was interesting was the "right to decide for or against" As if each of us have contemplated it-which most have. Or at least most have had that sinking feeling of "I want to die, I wish I were dead"
Anyway my point is-I think those that do carry it out must feel as if they have no choice.
They feel like they have used all of their choices, their options. It is not so much that death is a choice at this point-it is that life is no longer a choice.

sad

but you put it in a perspective that I can understand and respect.

i guess.


Selfish pricks is how i usually feel about those that leave us in such ways. It is really sad and AN put it in a way that also speaks the truth.
Finis
 
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