The Tomtrek
Love Wookiee
Hey!
Hey!
Matt Smith's final story airs today!
(Christmas Day)
(that's today)
You could watch it!
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Doctor Who: The Thread of The Time of The Doctor
- Thread starter The Tomtrek
- Start date
Hey!
Hey!
Matt Smith's final story airs today!
(Christmas Day)
(that's today)
You could watch it!
SAUSAGEMAN
Registered User
According to my Twitter feed Matt Smith is naked c/d
CaptainWacky
I want to smell dark matter
I'm going ot watch this now okay and bumping this above my spam i hope they explain why the Doctor had a big erection in that episode which Moffat said would be explained later
The Tomtrek
Love Wookiee
I liked it.
CaptainWacky
I want to smell dark matter
It was okay? I liked individual scenes and Matt and Jenna were good but the plot wasn't good. Like even if you think "WELL MOFFAT WAS JUST TRYING TO ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS" (he wasn't really) it wasn't really a great plot. Like why didn't the Timelords just come through the crack if they were able to open a giant crack in the sky at any time? (Also what even happened to the Timelords at the end?) Okay they only opened it because Clara convinced them he was the Doctor (if they were watching for 300 years wouldn't they have known anyay) but why did they have to know he was the Doctor anyway?
The Regeneration Limit has never once been mentioned since the series returned in 2005 and it's introduced here with about 20 minutes left in the episode and hasn't Matt Smith been narrowly avoiding death been the plot arc ever since he came back but he's never said he can't regenerate until now...
Why did they send out a message that attracts EVERYONE IN THE UNIVERSE instead of just calling the Doctor.
Why drop in the comedy "Doctor and Clara can't lie" scene just to explain the "no living person can tell a lie!" line from a few years ago then it's not anything to do with the plot.
Why didn't the Doctor recognise the planet as Trenzalore? He's been there before! Surely he knows where it is. Why did he have to ask Handles?
Why did he trust Tasha Lemmon when he knows the Pope people work with/are The Silence (would have been nice if they'd brought back eyepatch woman instead of just mentioning her.) And she just felt like another stock "sassy woman who's shagged the Doctor" Moffat woman...
Yeah these are just nitpicks but okay how about this: it was hard to care what happened to Christmas Town because we didn't know anyone who lived there beyond a few stock "don't leave us Doctor!" cute little orphan boys.
How come the Doctor and Clara have to be naked to go to "church" but no one else there is naked (they had their own holograms I suppose I don't know.)
And the "AND SO THE DOCTOR FOUGHT FOR 300 YEARS" thing went too fast. The battle scenes were good and the wooden Cyberman was cool.
And how come the Doctor was able to lie to the boy at the end saying he has a plan if there's a TRUTH FIELD active...
And how come I can't stop typing.
It was better than The End Of Time yeah and I'll miss Matt Smith he was good in the episode (he's always good) and Clara does feel like a proper character now (but she lives in a council flat really? At Least Archie and Angie weren't there lol) it just wasn't great or anything was it...
AT LEAST I GO INTO DETAIL AND DON'T JUST HAVE THE EXACT OPPOSITE OPINION OF TOMTREK/WHISKy.
MAYBE I HATE EVERYTHING FOOM FOOM.
The Regeneration Limit has never once been mentioned since the series returned in 2005 and it's introduced here with about 20 minutes left in the episode and hasn't Matt Smith been narrowly avoiding death been the plot arc ever since he came back but he's never said he can't regenerate until now...
Why did they send out a message that attracts EVERYONE IN THE UNIVERSE instead of just calling the Doctor.
Why drop in the comedy "Doctor and Clara can't lie" scene just to explain the "no living person can tell a lie!" line from a few years ago then it's not anything to do with the plot.
Why didn't the Doctor recognise the planet as Trenzalore? He's been there before! Surely he knows where it is. Why did he have to ask Handles?
Why did he trust Tasha Lemmon when he knows the Pope people work with/are The Silence (would have been nice if they'd brought back eyepatch woman instead of just mentioning her.) And she just felt like another stock "sassy woman who's shagged the Doctor" Moffat woman...
Yeah these are just nitpicks but okay how about this: it was hard to care what happened to Christmas Town because we didn't know anyone who lived there beyond a few stock "don't leave us Doctor!" cute little orphan boys.
How come the Doctor and Clara have to be naked to go to "church" but no one else there is naked (they had their own holograms I suppose I don't know.)
And the "AND SO THE DOCTOR FOUGHT FOR 300 YEARS" thing went too fast. The battle scenes were good and the wooden Cyberman was cool.
And how come the Doctor was able to lie to the boy at the end saying he has a plan if there's a TRUTH FIELD active...
And how come I can't stop typing.
It was better than The End Of Time yeah and I'll miss Matt Smith he was good in the episode (he's always good) and Clara does feel like a proper character now (but she lives in a council flat really? At Least Archie and Angie weren't there lol) it just wasn't great or anything was it...
AT LEAST I GO INTO DETAIL AND DON'T JUST HAVE THE EXACT OPPOSITE OPINION OF TOMTREK/WHISKy.
MAYBE I HATE EVERYTHING FOOM FOOM.
whisky
Boobie inspector
It just took every enemy the Doctor has faced and neutered them.
They are so infective at killing him now they are little more than Willie Coyote, while the Doctor constantly Meep meeps at them, hell they even had a classic warner brothers turn the gun round joke in there.
They could have ended it with Matt saying "That's all folks!"
I was bored at the start, bored in the middle, and bored in the end.
Why must every good episode of new who be followed by a piss poor one?
Only memorable bits were bald Matt, and the insta change at the end, that will fuck up those who like to post youtube clips of all the regenerations in a row.
Maybe they ran out of money for the face morph.
They are so infective at killing him now they are little more than Willie Coyote, while the Doctor constantly Meep meeps at them, hell they even had a classic warner brothers turn the gun round joke in there.
They could have ended it with Matt saying "That's all folks!"
I was bored at the start, bored in the middle, and bored in the end.
Why must every good episode of new who be followed by a piss poor one?
Only memorable bits were bald Matt, and the insta change at the end, that will fuck up those who like to post youtube clips of all the regenerations in a row.
Maybe they ran out of money for the face morph.
The Tomtrek
Love Wookiee
The main problem with the episode was that it was far too rushed. It had to cram in Christmas stuff AND typing up the plots AND doing the regeneration. It's a shame RTD get too (over-long) episodes for The End of Time and filled it with 90% nonsense and here everything had to be crammed into one episode.
But I liked all the individual bits - the Clara Christmas stuff, the Trenzalore stuff, the centuries of protecting the planet stuff - all of it works, I feel, it's just all crushed together. I don't really see how you can say it "neutered" anyone, the people surrounding Trenzalore couldn't attack in force because of the shield, which is why The Doctor was able to defeat them. When we do see them act in force, like when The Daleks take over the The Silence, or when everyone fought everyone at the end (something which, again, could have benefited with more time) they are still shown to be a threat.
So yes, it would have been better as a two parter, to flesh everything out, but overall I liked it. The twelve regeneration thing I could take or leave, I mean in a way it was RTD who "broke" the rules to cop out on the "The Stolen Earth" cliffhanger, and in a way Moffat "fixed" it, but whatever.
The Doctor saying his name was basically his way of telling the Time Lords "hey it's okay to come out now". It was his name as that is something only The Doctor would know, so only he could let them out. He never did, because the planet was constantly surrounded, so it was never safe.
EDIT: Oh yeah, it was better than The End of Time, but so is getting punched in the face.
But I liked all the individual bits - the Clara Christmas stuff, the Trenzalore stuff, the centuries of protecting the planet stuff - all of it works, I feel, it's just all crushed together. I don't really see how you can say it "neutered" anyone, the people surrounding Trenzalore couldn't attack in force because of the shield, which is why The Doctor was able to defeat them. When we do see them act in force, like when The Daleks take over the The Silence, or when everyone fought everyone at the end (something which, again, could have benefited with more time) they are still shown to be a threat.
So yes, it would have been better as a two parter, to flesh everything out, but overall I liked it. The twelve regeneration thing I could take or leave, I mean in a way it was RTD who "broke" the rules to cop out on the "The Stolen Earth" cliffhanger, and in a way Moffat "fixed" it, but whatever.
The Doctor saying his name was basically his way of telling the Time Lords "hey it's okay to come out now". It was his name as that is something only The Doctor would know, so only he could let them out. He never did, because the planet was constantly surrounded, so it was never safe.
EDIT: Oh yeah, it was better than The End of Time, but so is getting punched in the face.
CaptainWacky
I want to smell dark matter
They could have just sent a robot through to look around. Timelords must have robots.
Anyway, it was safe for them to come through at the end so shouldn't the episode have ended with them coming through?
Anyway, it was safe for them to come through at the end so shouldn't the episode have ended with them coming through?
Tisiphone
Elitist Redheaded Trollop
Well...
Wacky and Tomtrek have singled out the things I thought were wonky, so no need for me to reiteerate.
All I will say is that the last ten minutes jacked me up.
THANKS MOFFETT I LIKE BAWLING MY EYES OUT WAS THAT REALLY NECESSARY
how come she gets a proper goodbye but we still can't fix Donna ya fuckers
Wacky and Tomtrek have singled out the things I thought were wonky, so no need for me to reiteerate.
All I will say is that the last ten minutes jacked me up.
THANKS MOFFETT I LIKE BAWLING MY EYES OUT WAS THAT REALLY NECESSARY
how come she gets a proper goodbye but we still can't fix Donna ya fuckers
I thought it was pretty good and fun to watch. I don't know very much Doctor Who history so I was surprised by the regeneration rules, but thought THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING I JUST DIDN'T KNOW, but... they were just made up for this episode? That doesn't seem right. I guess the Timelords gave him an extra regeneration through the crack? OKAY. I wonder if this will be a thing now, because the Doctor lives a dangerous life.
Filthy Whore
Mad Arse Face
The eyebrow comment was classic.
CaptainWacky
I want to smell dark matter
You mean Matt Smith in old age make-up? I did think that a bit, but probably must old men with white hair look alike.
Fuddlemiff
Is this real life?
I liked the "is that what happened to your eyebrows?" line and the one about Christmas being so nice that the Doctor thought it'd be a pity to find out what was wrong with it.
I agree with Wacky AND Tomtrek. There were a lot of bits that made me go "Wha?!", but the main issue was that it was so rushed. The central idea was fine, but if you want to show a character aging by hundreds of years in one episode then you either have to give it more time than this, include a Ressikan flute, or use a montage. The battle scenes were all quite well filmed, but aside from the wooden cyberman they made the enemies seem quite inept. It's odd that it ended up like this since Moffat's apparently had most of it in mind for some time.
Other than that, Matt and Jenna were a pleasure to watch as always. His final words were lovely. I couldn't really make out what Peter Capaldi was saying, but I liked how quick the regeneration was when it finally took effect.
I agree with Wacky AND Tomtrek. There were a lot of bits that made me go "Wha?!", but the main issue was that it was so rushed. The central idea was fine, but if you want to show a character aging by hundreds of years in one episode then you either have to give it more time than this, include a Ressikan flute, or use a montage. The battle scenes were all quite well filmed, but aside from the wooden cyberman they made the enemies seem quite inept. It's odd that it ended up like this since Moffat's apparently had most of it in mind for some time.
Other than that, Matt and Jenna were a pleasure to watch as always. His final words were lovely. I couldn't really make out what Peter Capaldi was saying, but I liked how quick the regeneration was when it finally took effect.