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Trollzilla
Anybody notice the difference in the way I respond to Jack? Jack debates in good faith, and I respect that enough to respond in kind to him.

Assertion versus assertion, supported with data.

Because Jack doesn't just dance around from position to position, refusing to address counterpoints. He takes a position and argues it like an adult.
You’re insane. You’ve tried to take this thread from Covid vaccines for adults to abortion rights to how to handle drug crimes and beyond. No, I don’t care to take an absolute stance because there are differences in each social challenge. It’s scary that there are people that think so myopically.
 

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You’re insane. You’ve tried to take this thread from Covid vaccines for adults to abortion rights to how to handle drug crimes and beyond.
Yes, it's just freaky how a given principle can, and often does, have multiple applications. If I'd known you were too simple-minded to have figured that out, I'd have posted scans of diagrams drawn in crayon in the hopes of giving you a better chance at grasping the points I was making.
No, I don’t care to take an absolute stance because there are differences in each social challenge.
Which is the point of having a set of logical and ethical principles as a firm yet flexible framework from which to approach them. You'll figure that out when you grow up. Or, perhaps, if you grow up.
It’s scary that there are people that think so myopically.
I think what you object to is simply the fact that there are people who think, rather than merely going through life feeling.
 

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Trollzilla
No, I only hope your dick is occasionally as rigid as your so called principles. There’s nothing admirable about being myopic and narrow minded. Unfortunately there are many like you who can’t handle that not everything in life, or society, or politics fits into one small box.
 

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No, I only hope your dick is occasionally as rigid as your so called principles.
You even flirt passive-aggressively. Well, at least we can all rest assured that between six and eight of the world's cats are well attended to.
There’s nothing admirable about being myopic and narrow minded.
And there's nothing myopic or narrow-minded about putting human rights above corporate profit.
Unfortunately there are many like you who can’t handle that not everything in life, or society, or politics fits into one small box.
Not everything. Merely the majority of things.
 

Jaster

I came for the porn
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Watch the details of this poor women.


Assessment? what assessment?
that her whole life for the next 30 years has been ruined? to suffer in pain and be an invalid.

do you need a doc for that?

she knows its been ruined and the scumbag doctors are simply doing their little lip service as they know deep down she is on the scrapheap.

They even told her to get crutches.

if they did that to me i would get revenge on them all right up the chain of command to the 'we were only following orders'.

Maybe that is what people need to do for DESTROYING their lives.

its a fate worse than death.

who is gonna look after her for the next 30 years? you?
the a hole who injected her?

Had enough of their lies.
 

Jaster

I came for the porn
Yes, it's just freaky how a given principle can, and often does, have multiple applications. If I'd known you were too simple-minded to have figured that out, I'd have posted scans of diagrams drawn in crayon in the hopes of giving you a better chance at grasping the points I was making.

Which is the point of having a set of logical and ethical principles as a firm yet flexible framework from which to approach them. You'll figure that out when you grow up. Or, perhaps, if you grow up.

I think what you object to is simply the fact that there are people who think, rather than merely going through life feeling.
Considering the scale of the mass vaccination campaign against COVID-19, if the shots were working as advertised, we'd have vaccine-induced herd immunity already. As of October 28, 2021, 6.94 billion doses of COVID-19 jabs had been administered, equating to 49% of the world population having received at least one dose.1

Add to that the fact that we have widespread natural immunity, and COVID-19 really ought to be a non-issue at this point. Rarely does a pandemic last more than 18 months. Still, COVID-19 allegedly persists. Clearly, the mass injection effort isn't working.

A study2 published in the European Journal of Epidemiology at the end of September 2021 confirms this, showing that increases in COVID-19 cases (i.e., positive cases based on PCR testing) are completely unrelated to levels of vaccination in 68 countries worldwide. Ditto for 2,947 counties in the U.S. In the Peak Prosperity video above, Chris Martenson, Ph.D., reviews the details of this paper.
 

Jaster

I came for the porn
I'm pretty sure those people weren't ground up, rendered into soluble chemicals, then packaged up as doses of vaccine. 'Cause that's what... yeah. That's what I meant by, 'constituent compounds.'

Whether you believe it's more harm than good, I think we can all agree that one thing it ain't is Soylent Green.
Yesterday the Centers for Disease Control, America's not-at-all-politicized public health agency, released a new study purporting to show that vaccination protects against COVID infection better than natural immunity. Of course, a wave of stories about the benefits of mRNA vaccination followed.

To do this, the CDC used some magic statistical analysis to turn inside raw data that actually showed almost four times as many fully vaccinated people being hospitalized with Covid as those with natural immunity — and FIFTEEN TIMES as many over the summer. I kid you not.

Further, the study runs contrary to a much larger paper from Israeli researchers in August. As my 2-year-old likes to say, How dey do dat? Well, the Israeli study drew on a meaningful dataset in a meaningful way to reach meaningful conclusions.

It counted infections (and hospitalizations) in a large group of previously infected people against an equally large and balanced group of vaccinated people, then made moderate adjustments for clearly defined risk factors.

It found that vaccinated people were 13 times as likely to be infected — and 7 times as likely to be hospitalized — as unvaccinated people with natural immunity. In contrast — how do I put this politely? — the CDC study is meaningless gibberish that would never have been published if the agency did not face huge political pressure to get people vaccinated."
 

jack

The Legendary Troll Kingdom
^^Complete bullshit. Shedding among vaccinated DOES NOT OCCUR as a physical manifestation of the virus. You're numbers are incorrect. You're either reading the data wrong (my guess) or just willfully misinterpreting it to suit your own set of facts and beliefs.

Vaccinated people are NOT clogging the hispitals, it's the unvaccinated.

In Vermont, we're spiking up over 500 a day again (never happened during the pandemic like that even in the peak) We don't lie about shit like that up here. The stats bear out that it's the UNVACCINATED driving the infections and deaths with under 2% of the vaxxed being affected.

I would assume that's a statistical extrapolation throughout the US population.

btw 46% with one dose is no where NEAR "herd immunity" worldwide. In my small city we are 98% vaxxed, and have the lowest new case rate in the world.
 
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Y'know, Jaster, Stephen Colbert is a fucking moron, and even he did a better job with the "living strawman" act than you're doing.
 

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^^Complete bullshit. Shedding among vaccinated DOES NOT OCCUR as a physical manifestation of the virus. You're numbers are incorrect. You're either reading the data wrong (my guess) or just willfully misinterpreting it to suit your own set of facts and beliefs.

Vaccinated people are NOT clogging the hispitals, it's the unvaccinated.

In Vermont, we're spiking up over 500 a day again (never happened during the pandemic like that even in the peak) We don't lie about shit like that up here. The stats bear out that it's the UNVACCINATED driving the infections and deaths with under 2% of the vaxxed being affected.

I would assume that's a statistical extrapolation throughout the US population.

btw 46% with one dose is no where NEAR "herd immunity" worldwide. In my small city we are 98% vaxxed, and have the lowest new case rate in the world.
You may want to check your math on that.

(Note to Jaster: If you're going to copypasta the content of your posts, give us links to the sources, as well. We get on Blackfoot/CeeJay/Steve "Samurai" Jack for plagiarizing his shit. If you think we won't do the same to you for doing the same shit he does, you're not going to have a good time.)
 

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Trollzilla
You might want to check the math on who’s getting hospitalized and/or dying from Covid. How many are vaccinated? Your stupid article only loosely addresses infection rates which is pretty meaningless.
 

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You might want to check the math on who’s getting hospitalized and/or dying from Covid. How many are vaccinated? Your stupid article only loosely addresses infection rates which is pretty meaningless.
It's a "stupid article" from the experts whose authority you've appealed to.

Let's be crystal fucking clear, here: I'm presenting the literature produced by medical science; you're dismissing it out of hand because it doesn't conform to the dogma the media has spoonfed you for a year plus.

This behavior from you was cute for a bit, but the charm is starting to wear thin now.
 

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Trollzilla
It's a "stupid article" from the experts whose authority you've appealed to.

Let's be crystal fucking clear, here: I'm presenting the literature produced by medical science; you're dismissing it out of hand because it doesn't conform to the dogma the media has spoonfed you for a year plus.

This behavior from you was cute for a bit, but the charm is starting to wear thin now.
I’m not dismissing it out of hand but clearly it only reflects a small part of the bigger picture. I’m sorry that you’re looking for some source with an absolute answer (including me). I said I generally agree with scientific consensus way back but I never said I’d agree with any one article published by anyone. Don’t be fucking simple and people might not wear thin on you.
 

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Trollzilla
Well, that's one way to keep your word, I guess...

Whatever his cause of death was….if it WAS related to his booster shot, what are the odds? How dumb to focus on his one death when over 750 thousand people have died of Covid in the US. Some people have severe allergic reactions to vaccines. That doesn’t negate the benefits of the vaccines to the vast majority.
 

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I’m sorry that you’re looking for some source with an absolute answer (including me).
You're right, you are sorry.
 

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Whatever his cause of death was….
...is not the point. The irony is the point. Callous prick got to chirping about other peoples' funerals, and his dogmatic assholery may well have frogmarched him to his own.

That's pretty god damned funny, in a morbid kind of way. I don't generally subscribe to the woo-ass idea of "karma", but sometimes the universe does make a damned compelling sales pitch for it, and this is one such instance. :)
 

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Trollzilla
...is not the point. The irony is the point. Callous prick got to chirping about other peoples' funerals, and his dogmatic assholery may well have frogmarched him to his own.

That's pretty god damned funny, in a morbid kind of way. I don't generally subscribe to the woo-ass idea of "karma", but sometimes the universe does make a damned compelling sales pitch for it, and this is one such instance. :)
Hahaha…kinda like all the rabid anti-vaccine dumb asses who’ve died from Covid the last six months and expressed their regret at not getting the shot on their death beds?
There are thousands of instances of karma being a bitch.
 

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Hahaha…kinda like all the rabid anti-vaccine dumb asses who’ve died from Covid the last six months and expressed their regret at not getting the shot on their death beds?
Bet you haven't got a single verified instance of that to show me.

I hope Pfizer is at least cutting you paychecks, as hard as you're shillin' for 'em. 'Cause if you're doin' it for free, well, that makes you a couple different kinds of sucker all at once. ;)
 

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I’m not dismissing it out of hand but clearly it only reflects a small part of the bigger picture.
I just reread and caught this. A small part of the bigger picture?

I was right -- you did dismiss it without actually looking at it. The entire country of Israel is affected. And the trend expressed there is consistent across 68 countries. What the fuck is your "bigger picture", the solar system? Well, if so, ya fail there, too, since I'm pretty sure the vaccination rate and infection rate alike are both 0.0% on the rest of our planetary neighbors...

Fuckin' indoctrinated loopy-ass broad... :gagh:
 
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