Fucking god damn scumbag

[Name Pending]

There is a report tonight on the local news about a construction worker who found a puppy that was dehydrated and starving, with his jaw clamped down on his tongue with a tight rubberband, so he couldn't open his mouth and pull back his tongue, much less eat or drink.

The construction worker took him to an emergency vet and they had to amputate the part of the tongue that was already coming off. They are providing the best medical care possible and it looks like the dog will make it. What is unbelievable is that even though this dog has gone through hell, it nevertheless still loves people. The have named the dog Miracle.

I am really taken back by this. Most of the people who know me kind of see as a little heartless, but in reallity I have a great deal of compassion for a lot of things, in particular animals. Humans pretty much do what they want to this planet and pretty much condem animals to deal with it. Pollution, over-hunting, etc is one thing, but animal cruelty, especially to a puppy, in unbelievable to me. Dogs give 100% love while asking for very little in return. Abusing that kind of trust is no different than violating a child.

I spend a lot of time wishing I could take a blow torch to child mollesters balls, and then leave them on a fence to hang. People think the Death Penalty isn't a deterant and that is the biggest bullshit because if it wasn't there I would have killed a dozen people by now. Two things I cannot stand is crime against children and animals.

But this crime against this puppy will go unpunished, because no one knows who did it. If I could have some time with the asshole(s) who did it, I would hope they were an adult, as I would hook their tongue, rip it out of their mouth, clamp their jaw shut, and leave them be as they did to this dog, and kick the shit out of them. Then I would sleep peacefully at night thinking about the job well done. I am dead serious about this. Some of you might care less about animals or dogs in general, but the reality is that we are all of Gods creatures and all should be treated with respect, until someone violates that respect. Then it is open season.

This is absolutely sick. And while some of you might think my response is harsh, all I can say is fuck yourself. Amnesty International, Human Rights, etc can all suck my cock because it's assholes like this that should be skinned alive, rolled in salt, and then tied to an ant hill.

 

[Mentalist]

Sick, it's just sick. I was going to link you to the animal cruelty thread in Hambil Nation but I see you have found it. I find it all so shocking that such malice exists in people to begin with and to think that the people who did this were probably laughing about it afterwards. I could not physically do this let alone mentally, I swear my body would refuse to function before putting a helpless creature through such torment.

I have been stabbed twice and I used to beat the living shit out of people when I was younger over drugs, money, dissagreements ect. I am no softie, but this sort of shit is just deplorable.

 

[eloisel]

Actually, it isn't all that unreasonable or harsh to feel the way you do. There is some research that indicates many serial killers start off with torturing and killing small animals and pets.

 

[Mandi]

Oh shit, does that mean my nephew is going to be a serial killer?!

 

[eloisel]

I don't know - does he torture and kill dogs, cats, frogs, gerbils, other domesticated animals?

 

[starguard]

Reminds me of something a friend of mines did with a dog he named "Bones".....


A few years ago, there was a certain drug dealer in my neighorhood that had a pit bull that he used for the sole purpose of fighting other dogs. This fool was later arrested on Drug Charges and sent to jail, but when he went he never told anyone about this dog. The dog was in his garage, lease tied to a car bupper with a muzzle on it so it couldnt bark or make any noise. With the owner in jail, ther was no one around to care for this dog and no one knew that it was back there. It just so happened that after a few weeks or so, these two little juvenile deliquents decided to break into this garage looking for something to steal when they ran across it (the dog). They told my buddy about it and my buddy later went to see this dog for himself. This dog was so weak that it cound't even stand and was nothing more than skin and bones with fleas and other insects jumping off from what was left of its fur. It also had a lot of open sores that had ticks jumping all over them. My buddy decided to take the dog with him ahd took it to the vet. The vet told him that this dog was so far gone that it would be a waste of money to try and save it, and even if he could save it, they had no idea what mental state of mind this dog was in. It would be better to just put it out of its misery and buy another dog. My buddy told the vet that it didn't matter how much it cost, he wanted this dog kept alive. The vet reminded him that there was no guarantee that his efforts would suceed, but as long as my buddy was willing to pay for it, he (the vet) was willing to try and save it. Several months and several thousands of dollars later, this dog was eventually pulled from the clutches of death and nursed back to a full healthy recovery. When my buddy got this dog home, it wasnt until then that he realized that no one knew what this dogs name was,... so he gave it a new name. He named it Bones "because that was all he was when he was found, just skin and bones."

 

[starguard]

Personally, I'd have just given him a dose if my "Magically Delicious" Cereal and been done with it :kitty:

 

[Mandi]

I watched a show on the Discovery Channel about the pets of Huricanne Katrina. It was how people went into New Orleans afterwards and saved hundreds of thousands of pet that were left behind. There was one dog, he was alot like that one. I watched that and I bawled. There was even a cat found with a litter of kittens all dead. They were still attached to the mother trying to feed. It was so sad. Why anyone would treat animals in such a way is beyond my comprehension.

 

[starguard]

This is gonna be interesting...


What do you all think of people that work in Slaughter Houses?

We al like steak, pork chops, bacon, stew, hamburgers, ect. We eat meat almost daily. But have any of you ever stopped to think about where this meat comes from? In order to get this meat to the table, it has to be taken from some animal, and in order to get it from this animal, the animal first has to be killed. What would you think of a person who worked in such a place that killed animals on a daily basis?

 

[Uncle Tony]

Killing animals for your food is one thing.

What Name Pending referred to is a weak individual who feels rage against himself, but takes it out on small animals. I've got no time for such "people" and wouldn't think twice about dispatching one if I caught him in the act.

eloisel, there is...heh...an Unholy Trinity of criminal behavior which manifests itself in childhood: animal torture, bedwetting, and pyromania. Any one expressing itself in childhood indicates a problem, but it's not indicative of future criminal behavior. Two or more...that's a different story.

 

[Mandi]

Killing animals for your food is one thing.

What Name Pending referred to is a weak individual who feels rage against himself, but takes it out on small animals.

I agree

 

[jack]

There's a lot of reasons that may have happened, and none of them are good. May have been kids pulling a prank that were about to get caught. May have been an act of torture against a helpless animal. Sociopathy is a fascinating as a side effect of say, Skinner Box Theory. It's interesting to note that the rage you are expressing is just as sociopathic as the act you are expressing the rage against NP. Again, not a criticism or put down, I'm just interested in your reaction.

We used to get our chickens fresh from the butcher when I was little. I mean, killed fresh, and they really do run around, sometimes for quite a while after the fact. Cruelty is an odd thing. Was what we did cruel, I mean I loved watching the chicken run around and all the blood and shit. Then we ate the thing, and I liked that part too. I never tortured animals though, or expressed the rage you seem to, despite my personal history. Clearly whoever did that wasn't sticking around to enjoy the fruits of his work. Why not? Most people you are accusing of behaving this way wouldn't have left the dog out on the street, the dog would still be alive and the perpetrator would still be torturing it.

Anyway I've always been fascinated by people who are "a little heartless" and then flip out inside over a trigger like this.

Remember, it's a NEWS STORY, so some of it is story, maybe even all of it. I love the news, it tells us whatever the fuck it wants to. Lies through it's fucking teeth shamelessly, all to get a reaction from those who suck the glass teat.

 

[jack]

And I'm glad little "Miracle" made out ok. Wonder how many homeless people that construction guy stepped over before he stumbled across that poor dog?

 

[Mentalist]

I love the news, it tells us whatever the fuck it wants to. Lies through it's fucking teeth shamelessly, all to get a reaction from those who suck the glass teat.

I direct you to your comments in the MJ thread

 

[jack]

I didn't get that opinion from television Menty

 

[Donovan]

Here's a "hell freezeth over" moment: Jack's right, and I agree with his take. Prepare for the end of all things.

I have always found the dissociative empathy response to be very fascinating, that is people who humanize their emotions toward animals while at the same time dismissing or disregarding their fellow human beings. "I'd save a dog over a person any day" "I like cats better than people" etc. are examples of subconscious self-loathing, and can be carried to extremes emotionally, sexually, and psychologically. Not to mention the repressed rage that always bubbles up when a story like this comes out. Especially when the animal in question is one of the "cute" ones.

Has anyone reacted so strongly, I wonder, at stories of tortured lizards or rats? Or pigs, which are theorized to be smarter even than most dogs? Not likely. Instead we get the mathematical formula that cute doggie+ rubber band= blowtorch to the nuts, while cute piggie + slit throat= nice pork roast plus BBQ ribs.

I have worked with shelter agencies for pets, and I have seen the humanitarian lengths people will go to for favored species of pet. But I have also had some experience both as a homeless person and with other down-and-out people, and I have seen those same people look right through me as if I had vanished from the world. Frankly, such a paradox is a little alarming, and makes me wonder where we're headed as a people.

 

[Big Dick McGee]

Dogs give 100% love while asking for very little in return. Abusing that kind of trust is no different than violating a child.

Here's where animal-rights activists like PETA lose my support. I am an animal lover, I have a Siberian Husky that is part of our family. We raised him from the time he was nine weeks old, and he's now 7. His name is Chewie, and we love him almost like a family member.

If Chewie ever bit, pawed at, or attacked my son in any way, I'll kill Chewie with my bare hands, and dump his body in the nearest incinerator.

To suggest that animals are even close to being on the same level as human beings is utterly ridiculous. That's why PETA gets no support from me; a PETA member would save a drowning dog before saving a drowning human being.

 

[Name Pending]

There's a lot of reasons that may have happened, and none of them are good. May have been kids pulling a prank that were about to get caught. May have been an act of torture against a helpless animal. Sociopathy is a fascinating as a side effect of say, Skinner Box Theory. It's interesting to note that the rage you are expressing is just as sociopathic as the act you are expressing the rage against NP. Again, not a criticism or put down, I'm just interested in your reaction.

Excellent point Jack, as I know that I might come across as a little hypocritcal at times, but there is well defined logic behind the way that I am.

First and foremost I don't go around deliberately hurting people or animals, unless of course, they do it to me first. If anything, I go through great lengths sometimes to avoiding hurting anyone, or embarassing, whatever. Where that stops and I become the complete opposite is with assholes WHO DO DILBERATELY HURT OTHERS. I really make it my hobby. I know some of you don't know me very well here, but part of the reason I got banned from LoNAF is the rage thats comes out from picking a fight with me. Many people couldn't handle my reaction or thought it was inappropriate. But be cool to me and I will give you the shirt off my back. Fuck with me and I will bury you. Psychotic? Well maybe. But I'll never hurt you unless you hurt me or someone else first. So if you start throwing punches, I am assuming you have judged the possibility of the outcome and are willing to roll with them. From that point on, no I am not going to feel sorry for you. For the LoNAFites, take Zonker for example. That same rage applies to innocent animals too. Believe it or now I am just as gentle with Wasps, or any other bugs around my place, except for Cockroaches. They are, unfortunately, killed on the spot. Everyone else gets gently taken outside.

We used to get our chickens fresh from the butcher when I was little. I mean, killed fresh, and they really do run around, sometimes for quite a while after the fact. Cruelty is an odd thing. Was what we did cruel, I mean I loved watching the chicken run around and all the blood and shit. Then we ate the thing, and I liked that part too. I never tortured animals though, or expressed the rage you seem to, despite my personal history.

Here is where things get complicated, because I eat a lot of meat. I wish I could be a vegetarian, but I can't do it. Or haven't really tried. The reality here is that God created this world where life must consume other life in order to survive, and while I think it is unfortunate, and it makes me wonder why here did what he did, it is following the laws of nature as he put forth. No I don't like it, but accept it. I also am removed from the slaughterhouse too, as I don't slaughter the animals. Just pick up the meat at the grocery store. Hypocritical? To P.E.T.A. yes. As a matter of fact, I was in PETA for a short time, but couldn't get off meat and it pissed everyone off. I don't mind animals being slaughter humanely. What I do mind is torturing them. Hacking off their head is really the quickest way to kill them, so even though the chicken was running around headless it had no idea what was going on.

Clearly whoever did that wasn't sticking around to enjoy the fruits of his work. Why not? Most people you are accusing of behaving this way wouldn't have left the dog out on the street, the dog would still be alive and the perpetrator would still be torturing it.

To an extent I agree, but we really don't know the circumstances behind the idiot's decision to do this, but it also doesn't matter. You wouldn't/shouldn't do this to a person, so treating an animal with the same respect shouldn't be that difficult.

Anyway I've always been fascinated by people who are "a little heartless" and then flip out inside over a trigger like this.

Well, I guess I have a soft spot. I guess I want people who do these things to understand how it feels when done to them, and see that there is pain behind their actions. This is why I love it when rapists and child molestors go to prison. There was a Catholic Priest who was convicted for molesting little boys and he was murdered in prison. It really made my day. Some people where sad about it, but I was like, "THIS ASSHOLE RUINED THE LIVES OF OVER A DOZEN KIDS!" That is what is sad, not what happens to this scumbag. People think my reaction about the priest is cold-hearted, but inside I am devastated thinking about the kids. There is no suitable punishment to make up for what he did, but getting beated to death was close enough. Maybe he could have been gang-banged first.

Remember, it's a NEWS STORY, so some of it is story, maybe even all of it. I love the news, it tells us whatever the fuck it wants to. Lies through it's fucking teeth shamelessly, all to get a reaction from those who suck the glass teat.

Yea but in this case they showed the dog. Pictures say a thousand words. . .

 

[Name Pending]

Here's where animal-rights activists like PETA lose my support. I am an animal lover, I have a Siberian Husky that is part of our family. We raised him from the time he was nine weeks old, and he's now 7. His name is Chewie, and we love him almost like a family member.

If Chewie ever bit, pawed at, or attacked my son in any way, I'll kill Chewie with my bare hands, and dump his body in the nearest incinerator.

Actually, my sister's kid who is just over two abuses their dog, and they don't didn't do much to stop it. he dog hid from him, did everything he could to avoid him. So finally one day the dog had enough and snapped back. Sratched his face, and my brother-in-law beat the shit out of him. Me and my Dad were pissed at him and my sister for allowing the environment to develop where that would take place. The dog is a very warm loving dog, but my sister wouldn't disipline her kid. So who is at fault? You really can't blame the kid, and you can't blame the dog. The people at fault is my sister and brother-in-law. And we let them know it. They all love the dog, but it the County got wind of it, they could easily destroy it. What happens if my nephew has a friend over and he and his friend start beating on the dog and the dog snaps at the friend? What is the other kid's family's response going to be? So it isn't the dog, it is the owner.

o suggest that animals are even close to being on the same level as human beings is utterly ridiculous. That's why PETA gets no support from me; a PETA member would save a drowning dog before saving a drowning human being.

Well, who the person was might make a difference on who I would save. You seem to have this notion that because something is a 'person' they are noble, and worthy, and all that goes with the romantic notion that we are above animals. I have been around enough and have seen enough garbage that some people war worse than people make animals out to be, and yeah I would let soemone like the asshole who tortured that dog drown.

 

[jack]

Well, NP I admire your courage for daring to speak your feelings honestly. All that can do is spark a discussion