Funny posts from MJNO

[Mentalist]

Todays gem:

My case is worse... I'm in love with a fictional character. Harry Potter.
I know it seems incredibly childish and stupid, but I don't think people can fully understand the connection with Harry unless they've read the books and felt the emotion in them. Its incredible how a gifted author such as Jo Rowling can capitave people the way she has with me.

Also, I think, because he plays Harry, and because he seems incredibly down-to-earth, I have a very, very weak spot for Daniel Radcliffe. Yeah, so what? I've never met him! I'd never met the one guy I've been in love with until after my feelings had developed into those of strong, unmistakeable love. Why can't it be the same with celebrities? Sure the guy I'm talking about, I knew and got close with on MSN... but we do see these celebrities on the news, in interviews and movies, or singing songs all the time!



Yes... I need a life

 

[CaptainWacky]

He's a pretty generic character really.

 

[Mentalist]

And here I get in an argument about BET's list of the Top 25 Dancers Of All time that features not a single caucasian dancer. I end up being involved as an agressorr in the struggle of the African American people due to my claim that the list is racially biased.


1. James Brown
2. Michael Jackson
3. The Nicholas Brothers
4. Chris Brown
5. Janet Jackson
6. Prince
7. MC Hammer
8. Savion Glover
9. Beyonce
10. The Temptations
11. Usher
12. Alvin Ailey
13. Jennifer Lopez
14. Bobby Brown
15. Omarion
16. Shakira
17. Cab Calloway
18. Aaliyah
19. Tina Turner
20. Missy Elliot
21. Gregory Hines
22. Rosie Perez
23. Big Daddy Kane
24. Puffy
25. Ciara


The list is a joke anyway other than the top two placements.

You used my catch phrase (Hollaback).
I'm not amused. :dry:

I'll live.

Anyway, you make a good point about racial bias, but your argument is still lame Intrepid. Why?

Yes, why.

Because you're still missing the point. BET cater's to the young hip-hop/R&B demographic.

I don't deny it.

What impact has Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly had on 19 year old inner city kids?

I'd say none. Though that's not the point though is it. My gripe was with a list that was being touted at the "Top" dancers yet was not a list of the top dancers but a racially motivated list that ignored the criteria of dance in favor of racial bias. I called it meaningless. And it is. Whatever BET's demographic is and what its purpose is for, is insignifigant in this case.
I'd have the same gripe with a station that only had white artists as the top singers, ect.. But.. *peers downwards* you look hellbent on turning this into a racism issue so I shall entertain your paranoia.

And don't even get me started on America's long sad history of mistreament of African-Americans.

I didn't get you started on it. You're now off on a tangent and I doubt anyone could stop or start you now that you've riled yourself up.

We go through 300 years of brutality and slavery, plus another 100 years of murders, lynchings, hanging's, segregation, and Jim Crow laws. So after putting up with hundreds of years of bullsh!t, being snubbed year after year and sometimes outright ignored by the entertainment industry, we FINALLY get a television network of our own that caters to our culture (BET), compile a funky little list that nobody will remember in 6 months, and you (and others here) can't take it?

This has got to be one of the most stupid sentences I've ever seen put together here at MJNO (quite a feat.)

Not only are you taking this "funky" little list and placing it as a component of that most awful of periods of history you are actually drawing a linear line of abuse all the way to my comment that I found the list meaningless. Dude, if you don't see how f*cked up that is then you need help. I am personally deeply offended at such an implication. :dry:

Pathetic.

You damn straight it is.

The black struggle (civil rights movement) is equivalent to the women's right's movement. I don't hear anyone bitching about television networks designed for women (WE, Lifetime, etc.). Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly have never ONCE been featured on BET. So why would they make the cut? What about all the other hidden racial agendas against African-American's Intrepid?

Puuhlease. Don't trivialize your own cultural struggles -of which I am under no illusion of- by trying to place racial bigotry on my shoulders in such an unfounded and logically debased way. I made a comment that the list was not accurate due to racial bias. And that it is silly to use such a model for a "top" list. If it were reversed I would still make the comment. The fact that Shakira is placed yet she is not black but a minority only goes to support that it's racial bias and not a matter of black history at it's core that defines the list. I doubt many inner city hip/hop kids have been influenced by her either. You have done nothing but twist my comment on an issue that I wasn't claming was racism but just a racial bias. I was placing it in context of the list not making much sense if you're talking about "dance" as a whole and here you are waxing poetic about the stuggles of African Americans and are basically implicating me as a component of bigotry. I'm hardly kicking Rosa Parks off a bus am I. :dry:

You're crying over spilt milk, and not making much sense.

In this context, yes, I am crying over spilt milk. A few pages ago it was a discussion about a funky little list. Now it's encompassing the entire rights movement. How can I possibly meet your standards of discussion now you've taken it here in a most unnecessary and fervent manner.

Hollaback.

Sure.

 

[curiousa2z]

First I thought, "oh, they're having him on".
But no.

HOLLABACK Menty!

 

[Cassie]

Savion Glover was cool on Sesame Street!

The argument is hilarious.. just goes to show that anytime there is a mention of race, and you aren't preaching the minority party line, a person will be accused of being racist. Nevermind logic and reasoning.

 

[curiousa2z]

HOLLABACK!

 

[curiousa2z]

NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH HOLLODECK!

 

[CaptainWacky]

Menty, have you seen the Family Guy where Stewie dances with Gene Kelly? Pretty cool.

 

[headvoid]

Mentalist does condescending so well I used to copy his style trolling other boards for a while. It's cleverly annoying and I only got it after about 6 months of being here.

It's actually quite hard to do - you can only say derrr and puh..lease so much. You are required to type looking down your nose continually.

 

[Mentalist]

Looks like this one isn't going away so easily.

Unnecessary, huh?
Calling BET a racially biased network is unnecessary.

I didn't call the entire network racially biased. I called the list racially biased. It is.

I guess if Telemundo made a list of dancers who they considered the greatest, and 95% of them were of Latin descent, then that would make them biased?

Yep.

It wouldn't. Why? Simple, it's because Telemundo is television for Latin people. But, of course, I still don't expect you to understand where I'm coming from.

I understand your distinction clearly enough. I disagree that a list that is meant to be the "top" of anything should only have one race of people in it unless they really are the "top" and not because of a racial distinction.

By the way, thanks for calling one of my sentences "stupid".
Seeing that you're one of the more intelligent members around (or so I thought), I was quite surprised you'd go there.

I went "there" for a very succinct reason. Because you tried to pull the racism angle on me. Something that I find abhorrent to even entertain since it could not be further from the truth and you belie your own calm and collected style by pointing and screaming such implications in my direction.

Guess I wrong about you. Whether you realize it or not Intrepid, this thread took a turn for the worst when YOU (not me) suddenly implied that BET made a "racially biased" countdown way back on page 8. I'll be frank: YOU BROUGHT THIS SH!T ON YOURSELF.

What did I bring on myself? Nothing. I welcome discussion on topics that may be too tame for others. I am in full control and understanding of all my actions. What YOU have to understand is that my claim that the list was innaccurate and meaningless is based soley on there being any percieved expectation of the list being what it says it was. A list of the "TOP DANCERS"

Despite what BET may stand for and what its demographic is I see no reason for them to make such a list which has no factual accuracy and allows a racial bias to circumvent the one criteria the list is meant to be about to begin with. You obviously dissagree and make the distinction that BET is catering for black people and therefore it would be silly to put other cultures on that list. (even though there are two, Shakira and Lopez)

I understand your position. You clearly do not understand mine since you implicated me as a proponent of racial abuse!

Folks here were upset about P. Diddy making the list, not because there wasn't any white people.

I don't give a damn what other people were upset about. I wasn't upset about there being no white people on the list. I was merely making a statement (one I stand by) that the list is innacurate and therefore meaningless. Are we starting to chip at the outer-shell of your reasoning center yet?

For future reference, the next time you accuse a television network of being racially biased, at least bring some facts. Not opinion's.

What facts? That the list is racially biased and NOT an indication of the "TOP DANCERS?"

Nobody here was offended except you.

I wasn't offended. Not even close. Not until you got offended and then pulled the entire pain of black history and threw it in my face as if I was Strom Thurmond himself. :laugh:

The fact of the matter is, BET, Telemundo, Lifetime or any other network designed for a certain demographic doesn't have to apologize for any of their programming unless they really ARE airing offensive material. It's really not that big of a deal.

I don't want an apology. How quaint. Nothing they did was offensive and nothing they did was racist. I never made any claim contary to that. I just make a comment on the list having a racial bias before they even bothered compiling the list of who was the "TOP DANCERS"

Very simple.

Whether you agree with the minutia of the subject or not, that claim is accurate, and I meant nothing more than that since after all we at least agree this is a trivial thing to care about in the first place.

I'm not gonna bother responding to your next comment, because I'm right.

LOL.

This discussion is over as far as I'm concerned.

Fine.

Oh, and your Rosa Parks analogy was so lame. :dry:

I thought it was quite apt actually; considering you brought up slavery, equal rights and a whole bunch of other completley OTT references and placed them squarely on my shoulders over a fuc*ing comment I made about a dance list being racially biased. WHICH IT IS.

Do better next time.

I will endevour to meet your expectations, master.

Hollaback.

Ch'mon!

 

[Dershocka]

lol.

 

[Mentalist]

It's actually quite hard to do - you can only say derrr and puh..lease so much. You are required to type looking down your nose continually.

I find it quite easy to do due to my extreme contempt for most of the world. It also drives people to distraction when you're both an arrogant prick and are still unable to unravel their arguments in a partially passive aggressive manner (with emphasis on punctuated agressive.)


The results can be amusing. Though I skirt the lines of heavy moderation over there enough as it is.

 

[CaptainWacky]

Dunk them in Jawa Juice.

 

[curiousa2z]

OMG!

I'm not gonna bother responding to your next comment, because I'm right.

TEH FUNNY!