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Glenn Beck is an ignorant faggot.

Dirk Funk

Evil Penguin
Now I remember why I stopped listening to talk radio and commentary shows. I happened to have Bill O'Reilly on the other day, and heard Glenn Beck make a comment that astounded me. Not only did he come out against Net Neutrality, but he went so far as to claim it was the equivalent of an Internet "fairness doctrine".
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REALLY?! SRSLY?! Can he be that FUCKING STUPID?! It's nothing like the "fairness doctrine" So, what he thinks is better then, is the current system where a handful of access companies can collude to block competitors. Comcast has been threatening to throttle back Netflix in order to make their service less competitive with it's own video services. In the recent programming dispute with Time Warner, Fox forced Hulu to block it's shows from TWC Internet customers. The current system is anti-competitive and anti-Capitalist. Net Neutrality is far closer to antitrust laws we currently have than the "fairness doctrine". Net Neutrality will foster competition and innovation, not hinder it. Otherwise we will have a situation where 3 or 4 access companies are in a position to block competitors from delivering their product, or at the very least sabotage them. Net Neutrality needs to pass, and quick. Oh, and BTW, I'm pretty far right. I am a fierce free marketeer. However, the current system undermines the free market. Net Neutrality will allow for a fair and competitive marketplace, not monopolies. (which are really anti-capitalist, BTW) The people who are against this are either in bed with one of the big access companies, or are woefully ignorant.
 
well he said what he wants and so did you. At least he knows how to use a paragraph.

besides why do you hate fags? did one slam your asshole? Im not going to dog on gay folks, they have rights and can live thier life as they want.
 
well he said what he wants and so did you. At least he knows how to use a paragraph.

Irrelevant. Your straw man is about as elegant as a jackhammer. The argument isn't about him "saying what he wants" it's about his position being stupid. Try again.

besides why do you hate fags? did one slam your asshole? Im not going to dog on gay folks, they have rights and can live thier life as they want.

You know damn well the term "faggot" used in that context has nothing to do with homosexuals. So, do you care to defend your position or simply resort to specious remarks?

Since you seem to agree with his retarded position, defend it or concede. The lack of Net Neutrality allows access companies to do what they are already starting to do. Collude, block competitors from access, and generally chop the internet into disjointed sections. ISPs are starting to throttle back or outright block content from competitors in order to give their own products an unfair advantage. In any other industry, this kind of activity is criminal and results in antitrust prosecutions, but because it's the Internet, it's OK? An ISP like Comcast or AT&T who also offers their own video services, being in a position to block competing IPTV services (or really any other content they don't like) is more than a little disturbing, and as I said before in any other industry is criminal. Your move.
 
Haven't even watched it --just saw the title & a pair of tits and my posting reflex kicked in:

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What does this have to do with Glenn Beck, or is it just a way to get extra attention. There are plenty of people against Net Neutrality. Your post contains none of their arguments or rebuttals to them. Just a generic rant.

Here's my opinion, feel free to argue with it: While I agree with the principles of Net Neutrality, I feel that the government will as always fuck it up and make things even worse than before if they start trying to regulate (replace Net Neutrality with almost any other well intentioned liberal government program if you want to know most of my political opinions).
 
Jesus Christ. I hope the fucking world ends in 2012. That way the government can eat shit, conservatives can all die and private corporations can cry when they figure out that there's no way in hell they can take their profits with them. Governments bad enough. But when you start throwing this 'free market' (ie, make a buck anyway you can) bull shit into the mix, it's always means someone is going to get shafted. Leave the fucking internet alone.
 
Make a buck anyway you can/get reelected anyway you can/perpetuate your existence anyway you can SAME FUCKING SHIT.

Governments are worse than the "free market" because there is only one of them. The government is the epitome of an anti-capitalist monopoly. That you guys think they are on your side "because you vote lol" only shows how gullible you are.

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Make a buck anyway you can/get reelected anyway you can/perpetuate your existence anyway you can SAME FUCKING SHIT.

Governments are worse than the "free market" because there is only one of them. The government is the epitome of an anti-capitalist monopoly. That you guys think they are on your side "because you vote lol" only shows how gullible you are.

KITTENS

No, they're both just as bad. But retarded, kool aid drinking conservatives seem to think government is the source of all of our problems and either ignore or deny the problems with private sector. Your very statement shows how you minimize the corrupt nature of the private sector.
 
What does this have to do with Glenn Beck, or is it just a way to get extra attention. There are plenty of people against Net Neutrality. Your post contains none of their arguments or rebuttals to them. Just a generic rant.


It's because his remarks are what set me off. Also, I feel quite disappointed that someone who I used to have a great deal of respect for could take such an ill-informed position. Beck used to have a lot of good insights, but lately he has just gone completely off the reservation on a lot of things.

Here's my opinion, feel free to argue with it: While I agree with the principles of Net Neutrality, I feel that the government will as always fuck it up and make things even worse than before if they start trying to regulate (replace Net Neutrality with almost any other well intentioned liberal government program if you want to know most of my political opinions).

Ah. Intelligence. This is what I wanted. While normally, I would agree with you on the basic principle that government fucks up everything it touches, it's not always the case. Simply responding with a knee-jerk "keep the government out of it" reaction without examining the issue, is the wrong way of going about things. Government should be a scalpel, not a jackhammer. There are certain things it does well, and it should be used accordingly. This is a copy and paste of what I wrote at WordForge. (One of the very few times I posted there) This was in reply to someone who said that normal market forces could work in this instance, and if we didn't like one ISP's policies, we could just switch.

"Unfortunately, many of us don't have that luxury. In a large number of places, there is only one maybe two options. In my area we have a choice between AT&T and Comcast. Now, what if AT&T blocked Vonage because they didn't want the competition for their phone services, and Comcast blocked Netflix because they didn't like competition for their video services. What if I wanted to subscribe to both Vonage and Netflix? I'd be out of luck. Normal market forces cannot work in this industry.

Let's also not forget that small fact that in any other industry, this kind of behavior would be beyond illegal. Comcast doesn't own the Internet, they run a portal to the Internet. They should not have the right to block or throttle content they don't like or traffic from competitors. This is exactly the type of thing antitrust laws were written to prevent, yet some people think those laws shouldn't apply to the Internet."

I'll give you an example in a related industry (one I happen to work in) where similar regulation worked well. In 1996 Congress passed an updated Telecommunications Act. This act allowed the FCC to classify all Pay TV services as the same industry. Cable, Satellite, (and now IPtv) were now under the same regulatory umbrella. The FCC then instituted the OTARD (Over The Air Reception Device) rule. This prevented towns, municipalities, HOAs, apartment complexes, etc from banning residents from having small (under 1m) satellite dishes. At the time, cable companies were upset about competition from the emerging small dish (DBS) satellite industry. Cable companies were striking deals with HOAs, apartment complexes, even entire small towns to ban customers from having satellite dishes, in order to avoid having to compete. The OTARD rule put a stop to this.

Before this rule went in place, there was plenty of noise made by people who were against it, saying the exact same things I've heard said regarding Net Neutrality. "The government shouldn't be interfering with business." "Let the market resolve it." The fact is, had OTARD not been implemented, the small dish market would never have exploded the way it has, and it still would be relegated to niche status. Instead, this has caused the Pay TV industry as a whole to flourish, and the increased competition has directly led to drastic improvements in set top box technology and quality of service. Both from satellite AND cable providers.
 
Those guys on the video are hilarious. I really want to restrict their bandwith if at all possible. Can I pay more to do that?

Also, was it possible for the girl to have any more tits showing?
 
Jesus Christ. I hope the fucking world ends in 2012. That way the government can eat shit, conservatives can all die and private corporations can cry when they figure out that there's no way in hell they can take their profits with them. Governments bad enough. But when you start throwing this 'free market' (ie, make a buck anyway you can) bull shit into the mix, it's always means someone is going to get shafted. Leave the fucking internet alone.

Make a buck anyway you can/get reelected anyway you can/perpetuate your existence anyway you can SAME FUCKING SHIT.

Governments are worse than the "free market" because there is only one of them. The government is the epitome of an anti-capitalist monopoly. That you guys think they are on your side "because you vote lol" only shows how gullible you are.

KITTENS

No, they're both just as bad. But retarded, kool aid drinking conservatives seem to think government is the source of all of our problems and either ignore or deny the problems with private sector. Your very statement shows how you minimize the corrupt nature of the private sector.


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Some names to watch in the upcoming imbroglio:

Republicans Vow to Take Down FCC's Net Neutrality Rules

The Federal Communications Commission on Tuesday approved net neutrality rules, but that will be a short-lived victory if congressional Republicans have anything to say about it. Members from both chambers this week pledged to fight the FCC's rules in the next Congress and push back against what they say are job-killing, unnecessary regulations.

"Today's action by the FCC will hurt our economy, stifle private-sector job creation, and undermine the entrepreneurship and innovation of Internet-related American employers," Rep. John Boehner, the incoming House majority leader, said in a Tuesday statement.

"Federal bureaucrats should not be in the business of regulating the Internet, and the new House majority will work to reverse this unnecessary and harmful federal government power grab next year," he said.

The order provides three high-level rules: transparency; no blocking; and no unreasonable discrimination. The order received support from Chairman Julius Genachowski and Democratic commissioners Michael Copps and Mignon Clyburn, but was not approved by Republican commissioners Robert McDowell and Meredith A. Baker.

The incoming leadership of the House Energy and Commerce Committee echoed Boehner's concerns. Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan, who will serve as committee chairman, urged members to "use every resource available … to strike down the FCC's brazen effort to regulate the Internet."

Upton suggested that any industry support the commission has received for its net neutrality proposal "are really cries of 'uncle' resulting from threats of even more onerous regulation."

Rep. Greg Walden of Oregon, who will serve as chairman of the communications and technology subcommittee, said the FCC's move was a "power grab" that could prompt the commission "to regulate any interstate wired or wireless communication on barely more than a whim."

Walden said he will "look at all legislative options for reversing this decision." His committee will also hold hearings on the issue early next year on the substance, process, and claims of authority involved in the net neutrality proceeding, he said.

Rep. Lee Terry of Nebraska, who will be vice chairman of the same subcommittee, said the FCC is trying to "fix something that isn't broke."

Upton, Walden, and Terry last week wrote to the FCC asking Genachowski to release the full text of the net neutrality rules. The document was kept private during commissioner deliberations and was expected to be released at Tuesday's meeting. But according to FCC rules, the commission is required to include a response when any commissioners dissent. Since both Republican commissioners opposed the rules, the FCC will have to add its response before releasing the final rules.

In the Senate, GOP members had a similar reaction. Sen. John Ensign of Nevada is joining forces with Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas to introduce a resolution of disapproval regarding the net neutrality rules.

Under the Congressional Review Act of 1996, a resolution of disapproval lets Congress disapprove of regulatory rules issued by federal agencies. If enacted, the rule may not take effect and the agency can't issue similar rules with statutory authorization, according to the Congressional Research Service.

"As the rest of the world forges ahead, the United States will face a technological 'Lost Decade' as these new FCC rules restrict access to the Internet and stall this type of innovation in our country," Ensign said.

"The FCC is attempting to push excessive government regulation of the Internet through without Congressional authority and these actions threaten the very future of the technology," Hutchison said.

Hutchison has twice filed amendments to prevent the FCC from regulating the Internet, but those efforts have thus far been unsuccessful.

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, meanwhile, said the there will be "an opportunity in the new Congress to push back against new rules and regulations" regarding net neutrality.

Republican Commissioners McDowell and Baker expressed similar concerns during Tuesday's meeting, arguing that the commission does not have the authority to hand down such rules and that it is side-stepping Congress. Democrats Copps and Clyburn said they also had concerns about the rules, but their issues were that they did not go far enough. Ultimately, however, Copps and Clyburn decided to vote in favor of the rules.

Genachowski argued Tuesday that the "freedom and openness of the Internet is unprotected."

The rules crafted by the commission will protect basic Internet values, provide a process for monitoring Internet openness and a recourse for innovators, consumers, or speakers harmed by improper practices. It will also provide predictability for Internet service providers so they can manage and invest in networks, he said.

"On one end of the spectrum, there are those who say government should do nothing at all. On the other end of the spectrum are those who would adopt a set of detailed and rigid regulations," Genachowski said. "I reject both extremes in favor of a strong and sensible framework – one that protects Internet freedom and openness and promotes robust innovation and investment."

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2374661,00.asp
 
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