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Day 1 of the trial: 3 August 2009
38 On the first day of the trial, a number of preliminary issues were discussed, including an application by counsel for the State , Mr Ihle, to set aside three subpoenas that Mr Slaveski had filed addressed to the former Chief Commissioner of Police and two other senior police officers who are not parties to the proceeding. When this application was made, Mr Slaveski became agitated and argumentative. I explained that he was required to be respectful. This is reflected on pages 25 to 27 and 30 to 31 of the transcript, relevant parts of which are set out below:
HIS HONOUR: ... At the moment what I'm seeking your agreement to is that the time for them to attend court, pursuant to the subpoena, is put off until - - -
MR SLAVESKI: That's OK.
HIS HONOUR: - - - we can have a discussion about whether - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Yes, that's fine.
HIS HONOUR: - - - the subpoenas are proper. If I find that they are proper, then we can decide what date they should attend.
MR SLAVESKI: That's OK.
HIS HONOUR: If I decide they're not proper, then they won't have to attend. But at the moment - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Then I probably have to make an urgent application Your Honour, with all due respect, on top of you - - -
HIS HONOUR: Well - - -
MR SLAVESKI: - - - no, but just a minute Your Honour, you - - -
HIS HONOUR: Let's not - - -
MR SLAVESKI: - - - no, because Your Honour, I have three
HIS HONOUR: Just - - -
MR SLAVESKI: - - - so this cowboys - - -
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski?
MR SLAVESKI: - - - are coming into my property, they're bashing me up - - -
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski?
MR SLAVESKI: - - - they are liable to come here and answer to you.
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski? Mr Slaveski, let's just calm down please?
MR SLAVESKI: So - yes, this is her signature here.
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski, now there are some very basic rules - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Yes, of course.
HIS HONOUR: - - - we need to all comply with in this court.
MR SLAVESKI: But Your Honour, with all due - which they can all hide behind these people.
HIS HONOUR: Just one second. Just one second.
MR SLAVESKI: Sorry, yes.
HIS HONOUR: There's really one rule and that rule is this, that everyone respects everyone else's role.
MR SLAVESKI: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: Also, that when someone speaks, everyone else listens.
MR SLAVESKI: I apologise for that Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: And when I speak, no one else speaks.
MR SLAVESKI: I apologise greatly, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: So when you start speaking and I ask you to stop - - -
MR SLAVESKI: OK.
HIS HONOUR: - - - no matter how important you think what you're about to say is, you stop.
MR SLAVESKI: OK.
HIS HONOUR: And you listen to me. Now all I'm asking is for the issue of whether these subpoenas are appropriate, to be debated not today but another day - soon. It will be this week sometime.
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HIS HONOUR: This proceeding is going to be conducted subject to those very basic rules that I mentioned.
MR SLAVESKI: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: So when I interrupt you, you must stop and listen to me.
MR SLAVESKI: I will certainly do that, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: And I can guarantee that this hearing [will] be conducted fairly.
MR SLAVESKI: That is all I ask for, 50/50, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Yes, you will get a fair hearing.
MR SLAVESKI: Thank you.
HIS HONOUR: But it's not just a fair hearing to you. It's a fair hearing to everybody.
MR SLAVESKI: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: Because that's what court proceedings are all about.
MR SLAVESKI: I certainly agree with that.
HIS HONOUR: So everyone will have a chance to present their case, and I'll certainly listen. I have a completely open mind, and so things will work out much smoother and proceed more efficiently if we follow those basic rules.
MR SLAVESKI: I agree with you, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: And if ever you, for medical or other reasons, need a break, all you have to do is say so and we will organise that.
MR SLAVESKI: I much appreciate it. Thank you, Your Honour. And if I went that way, I apologise.
HIS HONOUR: That's fine, Mr Slaveski. I'm not easily offended.
Day 5 of the trial: 11 August 2009
39 On 11 August 2009, Mr Slaveski became quarrelsome when re-examining Mr Tancevski in relation to the events at the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court on 31 August 2007. Mr Tancevski had attended the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court on that day as a potential witness but was not called by Mr Slaveski’s lawyers. Mr Slaveski was critical of his lawyers’ conduct of his case, particularly in relation to their forensic management of video footage taken from a security camera at the Children’s Court on 13 July 2006 – being the date of the ninth incident – which Mr Slaveski believes was tampered with by the police. Mr Slaveski’s inappropriate behaviour is reflected on pages 586 to 597 of the transcript, relevant parts of which are set out below:
[Mr SLAVESKI:] OK. Do you remember Paul Smith, the detective going like this and like this and threats to kill Glenn Parker with a newspaper, do you remember this?---Yes, this paper.
You know this paper?---This paper.
Just a minute, sorry, Mr Char. Did I have papers like this or have the big paper?---Big paper.
Big paper. Can you tell the judge which paper I had and tell these gentlemen here please. This paper?---Yes.
So I didn't have this paper did I?
HIS HONOUR: Sorry, Mr Slaveski. Please do not shout.
MR SLAVESKI: So I didn't have this paper did I?---No.
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski?
MR SLAVESKI: OK.
HIS HONOUR: Please do not shout. We can all hear you.
MR SLAVESKI: Good, thank you sir. Now do you remember coming for four days, Mr Tancevski?---Four or five days.
Four or five days you come. Do you remember one day I say - sorry, Your Honour, I say to the barrister "Listen you dog, you are selling me to the police" and me arguing outside and I chucked the video off the floor?---Yes.
I said "Tell this to the judge" do you remember that?---Yes I remember.
You swear to God?---I swear to God.
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MR SLAVESKI: That video footage was edited - edited Your Honour.
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HIS HONOUR: ... What I'm going to ask you is this. You are the one who investigated whether the video was - - -
MR SLAVESKI: That's correct.
HIS HONOUR: - - - tampered with.
MR SLAVESKI: Tampered with.
HIS HONOUR: And you will give evidence about the tampering, is that correct?
MR SLAVESKI: Well I will be doing that when Snezana comes in. She saw some of the video footage.
HIS HONOUR: Yes.
MR SLAVESKI: And that - that's the reason of this monitor and all of that - -
HIS HONOUR: I appreciate that, and certainly you will be able to do that later, what you've asked this witness and what this witness has confirmed is that he was present when you were discussing these issues with your lawyers.
MR SLAVESKI: That's it.
HIS HONOUR: And you were complaining about - - -
MR SLAVESKI: To play the video footage.
HIS HONOUR: Because you wanted them to and they decided not to.
MR SLAVESKI: And then my witnesses - my witness came, Daren Scott, they didn't call him as a witness.
HIS HONOUR: And they - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Mr Dimitrija Tancevski came for four days, he was kept outside for four days.
HIS HONOUR: And they didn't call him?
MR SLAVESKI: Will call him - he was never called.
HIS HONOUR: I understand that.
MR SLAVESKI: So, this is what I'm saying to Your Honour. And then, that magistrate was favouring the police and after it was far too late to play the video footage and to produce this.
HIS HONOUR: All right. But you - - -
MR SLAVESKI: It was never played.
HIS HONOUR: But you will play it here.
MR SLAVESKI: I will play it here.
HIS HONOUR: All right.
MR SLAVESKI: That's the reason that we are here.
HIS HONOUR: I understand that.
MR SLAVESKI: But I don't like Mr Gipp torturing the stand that he didn't come to give evidence and all of that crap. It's not fair, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Well, Mr Slaveski, just take it one step at a time. What Mr Gipp asked the witness was did he give evidence.
MR SLAVESKI: It's the way he said it, Your Honour. He was waiting – he could have phrased it – he was coming – the old man, for four days.
HIS HONOUR: But Mr Slaveski, Mr Gipp is entitled to ask the question and this witness is obliged to answer and if he doesn't understand it, to ask for an explanation. So, where we've got to is that you have obtained from Mr Tancevski, evidence that although he was called – although he attended the court and was ready to give [evidence], he was not called - - -
MR SLAVESKI: He was not called by my legal team.
HIS HONOUR: - - - and that's something – and you're not happy with that.
MR SLAVESKI: Because I was set up to gain custody.
HIS HONOUR: All right.
MR SLAVESKI: Because I was a witness against a corrupted copper threats to kill me – the newspaper.
HIS HONOUR: I understand that.
MR SLAVESKI: That's my – that's what Mr Tancevski is virtually saying if you understand his picture, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Yes.
MR SLAVESKI: That is all he's saying.
HIS HONOUR: All right. Now, have you finished with the witness?
MR SLAVESKI: No, I just – Mr Tancevski – just one more thing, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Sure.
MR SLAVESKI: Did I tell the barrister, Richard Edney, Your Honour – his name was Richard Edney. A dog that sold me to the police and I'm not for sale for any millions of dollars anymore. Do you remember me arguing with him and telling him, "Did you get interpreter for Mr Tancevski?" Did the interpreter come?---No.
No. So, there was no interpreter for you and you were a very valuable witness?---I'm a bit upset, this time.
HIS HONOUR: Yes.
MR SLAVESKI: So, there was no interpreter for you?---Call me today to tell me, I call you tomorrow.
So, he said, "I'll call you tomorrow"?---(Indistinct) call me tomorrow.
HIS HONOUR: But you were never called as a - - -?---No, no called. I everyday come and - - -
All right. I understand what - - -
MR SLAVESKI: So, that's - - - -
HIS HONOUR: I understand.
MR SLAVESKI: - - - - that's - I kept on telling him outside, "Where's the interpreter?" "He's going to come later, tomorrow." It was all a set up – a plan, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski, I understand - - -
MR SLAVESKI: That's my - - -
HIS HONOUR: - - - your - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Because Mr Gipp was not there, therefore he should – he should be cautious with the - - -
HIS HONOUR: Well, this is how the system works, Mr Slaveski.
MR SLAVESKI: Well, I will torture his witnesses on the stand as well. Don't you worry.
HIS HONOUR: Well, you can ask questions but - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Yes, my heart will pump. Don't worry.
HIS HONOUR: You see, Mr Slaveski, Mr Gipp asked him, "Were you called?" And he said, "I went there but I was not called as a witness." And you asked him why and he's now explained that so, that's perfectly fine. He's given an explanation because your - - -
MR SLAVESKI: These people, Your Honour – people with evidence.
HIS HONOUR: Yes, I understand - - -
MR SLAVESKI: They – they - -
HIS HONOUR: We'll get to - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Look at the – 13 Your Honour, I'm sorry. I've got to say this please. Thirteen – 13 July 2006 and I get arrested after seven months. I took them seven months to make a movie out of me so they can tamper – eight minutes movie they did.
HIS HONOUR: Yes.
MR SLAVESKI: And that will show – that will be shown.
HIS HONOUR: Well, I'm looking forward to seeing it.
MR SLAVESKI: Yes. And you know what? I will take it step by step - - -
HIS HONOUR: Of course.
MR SLAVESKI: - - - a second by second - - -
HIS HONOUR: You're entitled - - -
MR SLAVESKI: - - - a minute by minute.
HIS HONOUR: All right, Mr Slaveski.
MR SLAVESKI: I need this.
HIS HONOUR: All right. Sit down please.
MR SLAVESKI: Thank you, sir.
HIS HONOUR: Now, I was just going to explain to you and you really need to let me finish - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Yes, Your Honour. I'm sorry.
HIS HONOUR: - - - because you have your go - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Of course.
HIS HONOUR: - - - and then I have my go - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Of course.
HIS HONOUR: - - - and then we move on.
MR SLAVESKI: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: Now, you need to remain calm because we will get through the case more efficiently if you do.
MR SLAVESKI: I don't like corruption, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Neither do I. Sit down please.
MR SLAVESKI: Well, Your Honour, he should not ask questions - - -
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski - - -
MR SLAVESKI: - - - like that. It's ridiculous. It's stupidity.
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski, sit down please.
MR SLAVESKI: Thank you.
HIS HONOUR: Now, I'm just going to explain to you – this again, because I don't want this happening with other witnesses. All right. It's very important that you listen. Mr Gipp or Mr Ihle is entitled to ask the witness questions. All right. Now, if the witness doesn't understand, they'll say so. If the witness gives an incomplete answer, you can ask for clarification. And what you did now was – apart from you getting a little bit excited, was perfectly all right because Mr Gipp asked a question, "Were you called to give evidence?" He said that, "I went there but they never called me." And you explained that the reason for that was because your lawyers didn't call him and that's fine. That's exactly - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Because they were told by the police not to be called, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Well - - -
MR SLAVESKI: That's why I sacked these barristers.
HIS HONOUR: I understand that you say that it's a set up.
MR SLAVESKI: Of course it was a set up.
HIS HONOUR: Yes. Have you finished with the witness now?
MR SLAVESKI: I certainly did and I'm sorry, Mr Tancevski and I apologise to the court but not to the other party.
HIS HONOUR: Well, let's move on.
MR SLAVESKI: I'm sorry, Your Honour.
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MR SLAVESKI: ... I would like – with all due respect, Your Honour, that particular video footage, if that has been edited, I would like superior people, professional people to examine that.
HIS HONOUR: Well, that's up to you, Mr Slaveski.
MR SLAVESKI: Well, it certainly is up to me because we are sick of this corruption. You know, I already have - Daren Scott from Channel 9 came four times and the cops adjourned the case and now he's saying, "I'm sick of this matter adjournment - all this garbage, I'm not coming." But we sent the subpoena again.
HIS HONOUR: Yes, I saw that.
MR SLAVESKI: Yes so, you know, these people when they come they have to give the evidence. They should not be played with.
HIS HONOUR: Yes. All right. Well - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Thank you, Your Honour. I apologise again to the court.
HIS HONOUR: Yes. Now, we're finished with Mr Tancevski and we've thanked him for his evidence. Mrs Slaveska, are you ready to resume your evidence.
MR SLAVESKI: I think I need a bit of a break, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: You need a break?
MR SLAVESKI: Yes, I am just on fire.
HIS HONOUR: You're – all right. Well, it's now - - -
MR SLAVESKI: These people don't play with me. Thirty-five, 40 years being in the recording industry playing with evidence, you corrupted cops. I must walk out from the court from Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: All right. Well, we might adjourn until tomorrow, Mr Slaveski.
MR SLAVESKI: No, it's all right, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Well, we need to - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Like, I am sick of these people. I've got a quarter of a million dollar recording studio there and these stupid police officers are going to tamper with evidence, making movies out of me. Threats to kill a police officer with a newspaper. You people should be embarrassed of yourselves.
HIS HONOUR: All right. We're going to adjourn until - - -
MR SLAVESKI: I apologise to you only, Your Honour, I do.
HIS HONOUR: - - - tomorrow at 10.30.
38 On the first day of the trial, a number of preliminary issues were discussed, including an application by counsel for the State , Mr Ihle, to set aside three subpoenas that Mr Slaveski had filed addressed to the former Chief Commissioner of Police and two other senior police officers who are not parties to the proceeding. When this application was made, Mr Slaveski became agitated and argumentative. I explained that he was required to be respectful. This is reflected on pages 25 to 27 and 30 to 31 of the transcript, relevant parts of which are set out below:
HIS HONOUR: ... At the moment what I'm seeking your agreement to is that the time for them to attend court, pursuant to the subpoena, is put off until - - -
MR SLAVESKI: That's OK.
HIS HONOUR: - - - we can have a discussion about whether - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Yes, that's fine.
HIS HONOUR: - - - the subpoenas are proper. If I find that they are proper, then we can decide what date they should attend.
MR SLAVESKI: That's OK.
HIS HONOUR: If I decide they're not proper, then they won't have to attend. But at the moment - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Then I probably have to make an urgent application Your Honour, with all due respect, on top of you - - -
HIS HONOUR: Well - - -
MR SLAVESKI: - - - no, but just a minute Your Honour, you - - -
HIS HONOUR: Let's not - - -
MR SLAVESKI: - - - no, because Your Honour, I have three
HIS HONOUR: Just - - -
MR SLAVESKI: - - - so this cowboys - - -
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski?
MR SLAVESKI: - - - are coming into my property, they're bashing me up - - -
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski?
MR SLAVESKI: - - - they are liable to come here and answer to you.
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski? Mr Slaveski, let's just calm down please?
MR SLAVESKI: So - yes, this is her signature here.
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski, now there are some very basic rules - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Yes, of course.
HIS HONOUR: - - - we need to all comply with in this court.
MR SLAVESKI: But Your Honour, with all due - which they can all hide behind these people.
HIS HONOUR: Just one second. Just one second.
MR SLAVESKI: Sorry, yes.
HIS HONOUR: There's really one rule and that rule is this, that everyone respects everyone else's role.
MR SLAVESKI: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: Also, that when someone speaks, everyone else listens.
MR SLAVESKI: I apologise for that Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: And when I speak, no one else speaks.
MR SLAVESKI: I apologise greatly, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: So when you start speaking and I ask you to stop - - -
MR SLAVESKI: OK.
HIS HONOUR: - - - no matter how important you think what you're about to say is, you stop.
MR SLAVESKI: OK.
HIS HONOUR: And you listen to me. Now all I'm asking is for the issue of whether these subpoenas are appropriate, to be debated not today but another day - soon. It will be this week sometime.
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HIS HONOUR: This proceeding is going to be conducted subject to those very basic rules that I mentioned.
MR SLAVESKI: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: So when I interrupt you, you must stop and listen to me.
MR SLAVESKI: I will certainly do that, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: And I can guarantee that this hearing [will] be conducted fairly.
MR SLAVESKI: That is all I ask for, 50/50, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Yes, you will get a fair hearing.
MR SLAVESKI: Thank you.
HIS HONOUR: But it's not just a fair hearing to you. It's a fair hearing to everybody.
MR SLAVESKI: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: Because that's what court proceedings are all about.
MR SLAVESKI: I certainly agree with that.
HIS HONOUR: So everyone will have a chance to present their case, and I'll certainly listen. I have a completely open mind, and so things will work out much smoother and proceed more efficiently if we follow those basic rules.
MR SLAVESKI: I agree with you, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: And if ever you, for medical or other reasons, need a break, all you have to do is say so and we will organise that.
MR SLAVESKI: I much appreciate it. Thank you, Your Honour. And if I went that way, I apologise.
HIS HONOUR: That's fine, Mr Slaveski. I'm not easily offended.
Day 5 of the trial: 11 August 2009
39 On 11 August 2009, Mr Slaveski became quarrelsome when re-examining Mr Tancevski in relation to the events at the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court on 31 August 2007. Mr Tancevski had attended the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court on that day as a potential witness but was not called by Mr Slaveski’s lawyers. Mr Slaveski was critical of his lawyers’ conduct of his case, particularly in relation to their forensic management of video footage taken from a security camera at the Children’s Court on 13 July 2006 – being the date of the ninth incident – which Mr Slaveski believes was tampered with by the police. Mr Slaveski’s inappropriate behaviour is reflected on pages 586 to 597 of the transcript, relevant parts of which are set out below:
[Mr SLAVESKI:] OK. Do you remember Paul Smith, the detective going like this and like this and threats to kill Glenn Parker with a newspaper, do you remember this?---Yes, this paper.
You know this paper?---This paper.
Just a minute, sorry, Mr Char. Did I have papers like this or have the big paper?---Big paper.
Big paper. Can you tell the judge which paper I had and tell these gentlemen here please. This paper?---Yes.
So I didn't have this paper did I?
HIS HONOUR: Sorry, Mr Slaveski. Please do not shout.
MR SLAVESKI: So I didn't have this paper did I?---No.
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski?
MR SLAVESKI: OK.
HIS HONOUR: Please do not shout. We can all hear you.
MR SLAVESKI: Good, thank you sir. Now do you remember coming for four days, Mr Tancevski?---Four or five days.
Four or five days you come. Do you remember one day I say - sorry, Your Honour, I say to the barrister "Listen you dog, you are selling me to the police" and me arguing outside and I chucked the video off the floor?---Yes.
I said "Tell this to the judge" do you remember that?---Yes I remember.
You swear to God?---I swear to God.
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MR SLAVESKI: That video footage was edited - edited Your Honour.
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HIS HONOUR: ... What I'm going to ask you is this. You are the one who investigated whether the video was - - -
MR SLAVESKI: That's correct.
HIS HONOUR: - - - tampered with.
MR SLAVESKI: Tampered with.
HIS HONOUR: And you will give evidence about the tampering, is that correct?
MR SLAVESKI: Well I will be doing that when Snezana comes in. She saw some of the video footage.
HIS HONOUR: Yes.
MR SLAVESKI: And that - that's the reason of this monitor and all of that - -
HIS HONOUR: I appreciate that, and certainly you will be able to do that later, what you've asked this witness and what this witness has confirmed is that he was present when you were discussing these issues with your lawyers.
MR SLAVESKI: That's it.
HIS HONOUR: And you were complaining about - - -
MR SLAVESKI: To play the video footage.
HIS HONOUR: Because you wanted them to and they decided not to.
MR SLAVESKI: And then my witnesses - my witness came, Daren Scott, they didn't call him as a witness.
HIS HONOUR: And they - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Mr Dimitrija Tancevski came for four days, he was kept outside for four days.
HIS HONOUR: And they didn't call him?
MR SLAVESKI: Will call him - he was never called.
HIS HONOUR: I understand that.
MR SLAVESKI: So, this is what I'm saying to Your Honour. And then, that magistrate was favouring the police and after it was far too late to play the video footage and to produce this.
HIS HONOUR: All right. But you - - -
MR SLAVESKI: It was never played.
HIS HONOUR: But you will play it here.
MR SLAVESKI: I will play it here.
HIS HONOUR: All right.
MR SLAVESKI: That's the reason that we are here.
HIS HONOUR: I understand that.
MR SLAVESKI: But I don't like Mr Gipp torturing the stand that he didn't come to give evidence and all of that crap. It's not fair, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Well, Mr Slaveski, just take it one step at a time. What Mr Gipp asked the witness was did he give evidence.
MR SLAVESKI: It's the way he said it, Your Honour. He was waiting – he could have phrased it – he was coming – the old man, for four days.
HIS HONOUR: But Mr Slaveski, Mr Gipp is entitled to ask the question and this witness is obliged to answer and if he doesn't understand it, to ask for an explanation. So, where we've got to is that you have obtained from Mr Tancevski, evidence that although he was called – although he attended the court and was ready to give [evidence], he was not called - - -
MR SLAVESKI: He was not called by my legal team.
HIS HONOUR: - - - and that's something – and you're not happy with that.
MR SLAVESKI: Because I was set up to gain custody.
HIS HONOUR: All right.
MR SLAVESKI: Because I was a witness against a corrupted copper threats to kill me – the newspaper.
HIS HONOUR: I understand that.
MR SLAVESKI: That's my – that's what Mr Tancevski is virtually saying if you understand his picture, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Yes.
MR SLAVESKI: That is all he's saying.
HIS HONOUR: All right. Now, have you finished with the witness?
MR SLAVESKI: No, I just – Mr Tancevski – just one more thing, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Sure.
MR SLAVESKI: Did I tell the barrister, Richard Edney, Your Honour – his name was Richard Edney. A dog that sold me to the police and I'm not for sale for any millions of dollars anymore. Do you remember me arguing with him and telling him, "Did you get interpreter for Mr Tancevski?" Did the interpreter come?---No.
No. So, there was no interpreter for you and you were a very valuable witness?---I'm a bit upset, this time.
HIS HONOUR: Yes.
MR SLAVESKI: So, there was no interpreter for you?---Call me today to tell me, I call you tomorrow.
So, he said, "I'll call you tomorrow"?---(Indistinct) call me tomorrow.
HIS HONOUR: But you were never called as a - - -?---No, no called. I everyday come and - - -
All right. I understand what - - -
MR SLAVESKI: So, that's - - - -
HIS HONOUR: I understand.
MR SLAVESKI: - - - - that's - I kept on telling him outside, "Where's the interpreter?" "He's going to come later, tomorrow." It was all a set up – a plan, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski, I understand - - -
MR SLAVESKI: That's my - - -
HIS HONOUR: - - - your - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Because Mr Gipp was not there, therefore he should – he should be cautious with the - - -
HIS HONOUR: Well, this is how the system works, Mr Slaveski.
MR SLAVESKI: Well, I will torture his witnesses on the stand as well. Don't you worry.
HIS HONOUR: Well, you can ask questions but - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Yes, my heart will pump. Don't worry.
HIS HONOUR: You see, Mr Slaveski, Mr Gipp asked him, "Were you called?" And he said, "I went there but I was not called as a witness." And you asked him why and he's now explained that so, that's perfectly fine. He's given an explanation because your - - -
MR SLAVESKI: These people, Your Honour – people with evidence.
HIS HONOUR: Yes, I understand - - -
MR SLAVESKI: They – they - -
HIS HONOUR: We'll get to - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Look at the – 13 Your Honour, I'm sorry. I've got to say this please. Thirteen – 13 July 2006 and I get arrested after seven months. I took them seven months to make a movie out of me so they can tamper – eight minutes movie they did.
HIS HONOUR: Yes.
MR SLAVESKI: And that will show – that will be shown.
HIS HONOUR: Well, I'm looking forward to seeing it.
MR SLAVESKI: Yes. And you know what? I will take it step by step - - -
HIS HONOUR: Of course.
MR SLAVESKI: - - - a second by second - - -
HIS HONOUR: You're entitled - - -
MR SLAVESKI: - - - a minute by minute.
HIS HONOUR: All right, Mr Slaveski.
MR SLAVESKI: I need this.
HIS HONOUR: All right. Sit down please.
MR SLAVESKI: Thank you, sir.
HIS HONOUR: Now, I was just going to explain to you and you really need to let me finish - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Yes, Your Honour. I'm sorry.
HIS HONOUR: - - - because you have your go - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Of course.
HIS HONOUR: - - - and then I have my go - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Of course.
HIS HONOUR: - - - and then we move on.
MR SLAVESKI: Yes.
HIS HONOUR: Now, you need to remain calm because we will get through the case more efficiently if you do.
MR SLAVESKI: I don't like corruption, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Neither do I. Sit down please.
MR SLAVESKI: Well, Your Honour, he should not ask questions - - -
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski - - -
MR SLAVESKI: - - - like that. It's ridiculous. It's stupidity.
HIS HONOUR: Mr Slaveski, sit down please.
MR SLAVESKI: Thank you.
HIS HONOUR: Now, I'm just going to explain to you – this again, because I don't want this happening with other witnesses. All right. It's very important that you listen. Mr Gipp or Mr Ihle is entitled to ask the witness questions. All right. Now, if the witness doesn't understand, they'll say so. If the witness gives an incomplete answer, you can ask for clarification. And what you did now was – apart from you getting a little bit excited, was perfectly all right because Mr Gipp asked a question, "Were you called to give evidence?" He said that, "I went there but they never called me." And you explained that the reason for that was because your lawyers didn't call him and that's fine. That's exactly - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Because they were told by the police not to be called, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Well - - -
MR SLAVESKI: That's why I sacked these barristers.
HIS HONOUR: I understand that you say that it's a set up.
MR SLAVESKI: Of course it was a set up.
HIS HONOUR: Yes. Have you finished with the witness now?
MR SLAVESKI: I certainly did and I'm sorry, Mr Tancevski and I apologise to the court but not to the other party.
HIS HONOUR: Well, let's move on.
MR SLAVESKI: I'm sorry, Your Honour.
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MR SLAVESKI: ... I would like – with all due respect, Your Honour, that particular video footage, if that has been edited, I would like superior people, professional people to examine that.
HIS HONOUR: Well, that's up to you, Mr Slaveski.
MR SLAVESKI: Well, it certainly is up to me because we are sick of this corruption. You know, I already have - Daren Scott from Channel 9 came four times and the cops adjourned the case and now he's saying, "I'm sick of this matter adjournment - all this garbage, I'm not coming." But we sent the subpoena again.
HIS HONOUR: Yes, I saw that.
MR SLAVESKI: Yes so, you know, these people when they come they have to give the evidence. They should not be played with.
HIS HONOUR: Yes. All right. Well - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Thank you, Your Honour. I apologise again to the court.
HIS HONOUR: Yes. Now, we're finished with Mr Tancevski and we've thanked him for his evidence. Mrs Slaveska, are you ready to resume your evidence.
MR SLAVESKI: I think I need a bit of a break, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: You need a break?
MR SLAVESKI: Yes, I am just on fire.
HIS HONOUR: You're – all right. Well, it's now - - -
MR SLAVESKI: These people don't play with me. Thirty-five, 40 years being in the recording industry playing with evidence, you corrupted cops. I must walk out from the court from Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: All right. Well, we might adjourn until tomorrow, Mr Slaveski.
MR SLAVESKI: No, it's all right, Your Honour.
HIS HONOUR: Well, we need to - - -
MR SLAVESKI: Like, I am sick of these people. I've got a quarter of a million dollar recording studio there and these stupid police officers are going to tamper with evidence, making movies out of me. Threats to kill a police officer with a newspaper. You people should be embarrassed of yourselves.
HIS HONOUR: All right. We're going to adjourn until - - -
MR SLAVESKI: I apologise to you only, Your Honour, I do.
HIS HONOUR: - - - tomorrow at 10.30.
