MODMAN
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It hasn't been the same since DS9 ended, FFS. Although Enterprise had it's moments, to be fair.
It's had it's ups and downs - mainly downs. I thought the '09 movie was fun.
I know Berman was a polarising figure in his day, but after watching this:
... I appreciated there was still some intent to stay aligned with "the vision". When you think about it, through the ups and downs there was a thread connecting all of Trek from TOS up until the end of Enterprise. Gene and the various creatives at the heart of TOS, the movies, then Gene again before handing off to Berman and Piller - then Berman and Braga.
And then - it stopped.
I just don't see or feel anything from the new stuff that resonates like the shows from the Golden Era. It's called Star Trek and there are elements from the old shows inserted - there are Klingons, Romulans, Starfleet etc. There are even actors reprising their old roles in the new shows. But, it feels utterly soulless and void of any charm. They continue to lean further into the 'memberberries, which gets some all a-twitter and excitable at every little reference - might be fine in small doses if the writing wasn't dreadful.
And the writing is dreadful. Is anyone seriously defending the writing? Even the crowd that has to praise everything branded Trek isn't prepared to die on that hill.
Which brings me to Picard. I can normally roll with the crap they throw out and stay open minded for what else is on offer. But this was so bad and abused so many cherished elements from TNG (The Borg, Q, Picard) that it has kinda fucked the whole thing for me. If you'd told me I'd rank Discovery higher than Picard after that cracker of a first episode, I would've laughed you out of the room.
I liked the first episode of SNW but my enthusiasm is nearly non-existent.
It's taken a lot longer to kill my inner Trekkie than it did my inner Whovian; Star Trek was my first geek love. Maybe this will all fold in a couple of years; maybe Viacom will sell itself off and Trek's IP will be picked up by someone who can do it justice - I dunno. But right now, I think I'm finally at that acceptance stage and can say yep - it's dead, Jim. At least for me.
It's had it's ups and downs - mainly downs. I thought the '09 movie was fun.
I know Berman was a polarising figure in his day, but after watching this:
... I appreciated there was still some intent to stay aligned with "the vision". When you think about it, through the ups and downs there was a thread connecting all of Trek from TOS up until the end of Enterprise. Gene and the various creatives at the heart of TOS, the movies, then Gene again before handing off to Berman and Piller - then Berman and Braga.
And then - it stopped.
I just don't see or feel anything from the new stuff that resonates like the shows from the Golden Era. It's called Star Trek and there are elements from the old shows inserted - there are Klingons, Romulans, Starfleet etc. There are even actors reprising their old roles in the new shows. But, it feels utterly soulless and void of any charm. They continue to lean further into the 'memberberries, which gets some all a-twitter and excitable at every little reference - might be fine in small doses if the writing wasn't dreadful.
And the writing is dreadful. Is anyone seriously defending the writing? Even the crowd that has to praise everything branded Trek isn't prepared to die on that hill.
Which brings me to Picard. I can normally roll with the crap they throw out and stay open minded for what else is on offer. But this was so bad and abused so many cherished elements from TNG (The Borg, Q, Picard) that it has kinda fucked the whole thing for me. If you'd told me I'd rank Discovery higher than Picard after that cracker of a first episode, I would've laughed you out of the room.
I liked the first episode of SNW but my enthusiasm is nearly non-existent.
It's taken a lot longer to kill my inner Trekkie than it did my inner Whovian; Star Trek was my first geek love. Maybe this will all fold in a couple of years; maybe Viacom will sell itself off and Trek's IP will be picked up by someone who can do it justice - I dunno. But right now, I think I'm finally at that acceptance stage and can say yep - it's dead, Jim. At least for me.
