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Keep That Drug Coming My American Bitches!

SaintLucifer

beer, I want beer
Americans are drug addicts.

PRESCRIPTION DRUGS:
THE FACTS ABOUT CANADA

Canada's drug distribution and pricing systems are less likely to foster counterfeiting.

CONSUMER REPORTS MAGAZINE,
OCTOBER 2005

Even though the practice is illegal, Americans in droves have been importing prescription drugs from Canada. Last year, an estimated 2 million U.S. citizens spent $800 million on medicines purchased from Canadian pharmacies by fax, phone, or Web site. That's 33 percent more than in 2003. A long list of states and cities, including Kansas, Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Boston, and Portland, Maine, have set up programs to help residents and employees import Canadian drugs priced on average 25 to 50 percent below those on the U.S. market.

What's happening is controversial. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration stands foursquare against imports, arguing that it cannot ensure they are safe. Many Americans, however, believe that buying from Canada, a familiar next-door neighbor, is no more dangerous than picking up a prescription at a local drugstore. Almost 70 percent of the 1,400 people surveyed by the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation and the Harvard School of Public Health in November 2004 said that allowing citizens to order drugs from Canada would make medicines more affordable without sacrificing safety or quality.

Here's the reality of the government's arguments against buying from Canada:

Canadian drugs are not as safe as U.S. drugs. False. The FDA maintains that "many drugs obtained from foreign sources that purport and appear to be the same as U.S.-approved prescription drugs, are, in fact, of unknown quality." Furthermore, FDA officials have expressed the concern that news of product recalls issued in Canada may not reach U.S. consumers.

But Canada's manufacturing and regulatory system is comparable to that of the U.S., according to an October 2003 study by the state of Illinois' Office of Special Advocate for Prescription Drugs. FDA critics counter, moreover, that the agency cannot entirely ensure the safety of drugs manufactured in the U.S.

The Illinois study also concluded that Canada's pricing and distribution system is less likely to foster the drug counterfeiting that concerns the FDA. Drugs in the U.S. typically move through multiple vendors (manufacturers, wholesalers, repackagers, retailers, second repackagers, etc.) before reaching the patient.

In Canada, medications are dispensed mainly in typical dosages and shipped in sealed packages directly from manufacturer to pharmacy. In a June 2004 report, the U.S. Government Accountability Office said that all of the prescription drugs it ordered from Canadian Internet pharmacies contained the proper chemical compositions, were shipped in accordance with special handling requirements, and arrived undamaged.

In addition, if a recall is issued for a drug sold in Canada, Canadian pharmacies are required to alert all consumers who purchased the affected lot, regardless of where they live. "This is a global recall policy that has been in place in industrialized countries for decades," says Andy Troszok, president of the Canadian International Pharmacy Association (CIPA), an industry group that certifies Canadian pharmacies.

Canadian drugs are not always cheaper. True. To see how much consumers can expect to save by buying from Canadian pharmacies, we asked PharmacyChecker.com, a group that evaluates online pharmacies, to compare drug prices from its highest-rated Canadian and U.S. Web sites. (See Brand name vs. generic costs.)

When we compared the lowest prices of five well-known brand-name drugs from both Canadian and U.S. sources, the Canadian pharmacies saved consumers between $72 and $226 per prescription (including shipping charges). Such medications are cheaper in Canada in large part because its federal Patented Medicine Prices Review Board has the authority to limit prices that it deems to be excessive.

This would be 'price-controls' my American bitches, clearly a fascist practice. You were railing against fascism...? In Canada, the fucking drug companies do as they are fucking told, or they must take their goddamned business elsewhere.

But in a similar comparison, a U.S. site had the best prices for the five most prescribed generic drugs. Because generic drugs cost less, the savings are less: from $7 to $31 per prescription. "The larger, more competitive generic market in the U.S. helps keep prices down," says Thomas McGinnis, the FDA's director of pharmacy affairs. [Frank’s note: Always check generic prices at Costco before buying elsewhere. They’re generally lowest, often lower than Canada.]

You could get arrested. True but unlikely. Ordering prescriptions from Canadian Web sites violates the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, which generally makes it a crime for anyone other than the original manufacturer to import a drug, even if it was first manufactured in the U.S.
Heh, heh. I guess Laker_Cunt had better stop purchasing the latest diet drugs from our Canadian pharmacies. I love the part where an American could be arrested if he/she orders a drug via a Canadian website, even if it was manufactured in the USA. That one was hilarious. Brought tears to my eyes.

So far, however, the FDA has focused its enforcement efforts only on those who "commercialize" drug importation. One example: RxDepot, an Oklahoma prescription drug service that was forced to shut down in 2003. But there are currently no plans to charge consumers. McGinnis says, "We are allowed to exercise enforcement discretion, and it's not our policy to go after individuals."

Many Internet sites are not legitimate pharmacies. True but avoidable. CIPA warns that many Web sites selling medications have been created to lure U.S. consumers seeking cheaper prices. Patients who order from such sites run the risk of receiving medications that are subpotent, improperly handled, or counterfeit.

Furthermore, the FDA says some Web sites may not tell you that a drug they sell you is obtained from an overseas supplier. "You may be sent a drug that originated in Australia, Great Britain, or Pakistan," says McGinnis. "We don't know anything about the strength, quality, or purity of those medications."

Patients, however, can avoid such problems by ordering only from pharmacies that have been thoroughly scrutinized by CIPA. To display a CIPA seal on its Web site an online pharmacy must have a valid Canadian license, submit to a quarterly on-site inspection, and keep personal information confidential in compliance with PIPEDA, the Canadian privacy act similar to The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, or HIPAA, in the U.S.

The online pharmacy must also require you to submit a valid prescription and medical history and to check for possible drug interactions. And CIPA members must let you know in advance if they are supplying you with a medication from another country so you have the right to refuse. You can find a list of the 37 Canadian pharmacies with CIPA seals at www.ciparx.ca/cipa_pharmacies.html.

Another source of information about online pharmacies is PharmacyChecker.com, whose review process is similar to CIPA's. It also provides prices and customer feedback.

WHAT TO DO

The flow of prescription drugs from Canada may not last forever.

Ujjal Dosanjh, the Canadian Health Minister, proposed on June 29 that a new supply network be established to keep tabs on the nation's drugs and that bulk shipments to the U.S. be stopped if the system detects a shortage. In addition, he proposed a requirement that "an established patient-practitioner relationship" should exist before a physician may prescribe any medications.
This is pure bullshit. The Canadian government makes deals with the pharmaceuticals, whereupon specific prices are agreed upon, as long as the drugs are not sold outside of Canada. The pharmaceuticals, upon learning that Americans were bitching back home in the USA about Canada's lower drug prices, bitched at the Canadian government about how we were breaking the agreement. The Canadian government realises the pharmaceuticals do not want Americans to learn the American government need only adopt Canadian price-fixing policies. Americans at present are too stupid to realise it would be a very simple matter of copying our fascist policies.

Whether or not this means that U.S. citizens will have to meet face-to-face with a Canadian doctor before they can purchase drugs will not be determined until sometime this fall, when the minister plans to introduce legislation.
Well, they do now. The Canadian government has recently made it illegal to sell drugs via the internet to the USA. Many think this was due to pressure from George Bush and his Republican cronies, which is only partially true, but much of the pressure came from the pharmaceuticals, with whom we were breaking our agreements. The Americans think much of themselves if they think the American government could affect Canadian internal affairs in the slightest. I should like to remind you all, the pressure from George Bush came against the FDA and related drug importation policies. He did not affect Canadian government policy one iota, simply because we would have told him to go fuck himself and he knows it. Your RIAA tried the same tac, only to be bitchslapped back across the border with their dicks stuck up each other's assholes. The lesson to be learned here? Don't fuck with the Canadian government.
 
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Dumbfuck Americans purchase drugs from Mexico. FDA claims they are 'substandard' and therefore do not meet FDA requirements. Bwaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaa. I cannot believe Americans are dumb enough to purchase drugs from a Third-World shithole like Mexico. You have seen what the Mexicans are like in your own backyard, so I fail to understand why you would take the risk. Are you fucking Americans a bunch of MORONS? Canadians would NEVER touch 'SPIC drugs. Not even if the fucking 'SPIC pointed a fucking gun at our heads.

Dumb Americans Purchase 'SPIC Drugs

Imported Drugs Raise Safety Concerns

Selene Seguros Rios was 18 months old in 1999 when she received two injections of a pain and fever drug called Neo-Melubrina (dipyrone) in an illegal backroom clinic in Tustin, Calif. That was 20 years after the Food and Drug Administration had banned the drug in the United States because of potentially fatal side effects, including a drop in white blood cells that hampers the body's ability to fight off infections.

Selene died soon after the shots. Her death set off a crackdown in December 2000 on smuggling drugs from Mexico and selling them at swap meets, gift stores, clothing stores, meat markets, and other retail establishments in Southern California.

"We've found drugs that were stored in tin containers and car trunks," says Daniel Hancz, Pharm.D., a pharmacist with the Health Authority Law Enforcement Task Force (HALT) in Los Angeles, an organization of police officers and other law enforcement personnel with special training in pharmaceuticals. HALT was launched as part of the crackdown, and task force members have confiscated a variety of prescription drugs being sold illegally.

Experts say the problem mirrors what goes on in nearby Mexico, where easy access to prescription drugs is common. Marv Shepherd, Ph.D., director of the Pharmacoeconomic Center at the University of Texas at Austin, places drugs available in Mexico into two categories. "Plenty of drugs that require a prescription in the United States--like antibiotics, cardiac drugs, and birth control pills--are available over the counter in Mexico," he says. "Then there are controlled substances like Valium, which you do need a prescription for in Mexico."

The FDA's Office of Criminal Investigations in Los Angeles has teamed with HALT to uncover major black market pharmacy rings selling Spanish-labeled pharmaceuticals. Ring members have been arrested and accused of violating the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FD&C Act). Local lawmakers have stiffened penalties, and many illegal pharmacies have been shut down. Other drug sellers have taken their businesses underground, moving from storefronts to private homes in an attempt to hide.

As in Selene's case, some criminals have falsely claimed to have a medical background and not only illegally sold drugs, but administered injections. Hancz says that HALT has seized prescription drugs found mostly in Latino, Asian, and Russian immigrant communities, where some undocumented immigrants, fearing that their immigration status may be discovered, have sought health care in back rooms. The U.S. Attorney's Office for the Central District of California has indicated that legitimate or state-licensed clinics exist where immigrants can be treated safely regardless of immigration status.

The list of safety risks is long, but the principal problems involve the use of prescription drugs without a physician's supervision and the danger of buying drugs of unknown origin and quality. "I've seen eye medications that look like they're 20 years old," Hancz says. "The drugs could be old, contaminated, or counterfeit. And if you experience some kind of allergic reaction or other side effect, it's hard to trace the problem and treat it."

Whether you're searching for a cheaper price or dodging the doctor's office, the FDA warns against using unapproved drugs. And just because a drug is approved in a foreign country, that doesn't mean it's approved in the United States. Drug standards and regulations vary from country to country, and the FDA is responsible only for those marketed and sold inside the United States.

Joe McCallion, a consumer safety officer in the FDA's Office of Regulatory Affairs, sums it up this way: "If you buy drugs that come from outside the U.S., the FDA doesn't know what you're getting, which means safety can't be assured."

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What did I tell you bitches? Did I not tell you it was the drug companies who actually manufacture the drugs for Canada who were preventing you from purchasing those same drugs from Canada? Yet you thought it was your own government. Bwaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaa. Fuck but Americans are stupid. That's why the drug companies rob them blind. Americans are too dumb to know when they have been fleeced.

Drugmakers Curb Canadian Outlets - Prescription tabs increase for buyers from the U.S.

WASHINGTON -- Canadian Internet pharmacies that sell discounted prescription drugs to U.S. consumers are struggling to find new suppliers in response to tough new sales restrictions imposed by major drug companies.

The companies include giants like Pfizer Inc., Wyeth Pharmaceuticals, GlaxoSmithKline and AstraZeneca.

Reimporting prescription drugs from Canada and other countries is illegal, but it's become a multimillion-dollar industry due to lax enforcement by the Food and Drug Administration and consumer frustration with spiraling U.S. drug costs. Canada's Internet drug sales were projected to double this year to $1.4 billion, according to Jupiter Research, a business and technology research firm in Darien, Conn.
Fucking dumb Americans. How can it be illegal to import drugs that were manufactured in your own country? You Americans take this sitting down? Fuck you all. Dumb motherfuckers.

The drug industry insists the restrictions are intended to ensure product safety. Consumer advocates and Internet drug sellers say they're a thinly veiled effort to recoup profits lost when Canadian companies buy drugs cheaply due to government price controls and resell them to Americans accustomed to much higher prices. The ploy, called reimportation, can save U.S. customers 50 percent or more on some drugs.
Did not the pharmaceuticals just finish admitting the drugs were 'reimported', and nothing more? So, they argue that their own drugs are 'unsafe'? Bwaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Fucking Americans read this and still say nothing. Dumb motherfuckers.

GlaxoSmithKline, whose U.S. operations are based in Philadelphia and Research Triangle Park, N.C., requires Canadian wholesalers and pharmacies to certify that they don't export the company's medications. Those that don't take the pledge are cut off.
Oh boo hoo. Lots of drug companies out there you motherfuckers. Do not presume to tell us what to do with a product we have already purchased. Once we have paid for them, they belong to us. From that point on, we are free to do whatever we may. Fuck you and the drugged-up horse you rode in on.

Wyeth, based in Collegeville, Pa., and the British drugmaker AstraZeneca, say they're watching Canadian pharmacies and wholesale customers for increases in sales volume that could be evidence of reimportation.

We've restricted the amount we're shipping to suppliers based on their previous orders, said Jenifer Antonacci, a Wyeth spokeswoman.

New York-based Pfizer, the world's largest drug company, no longer permits wholesalers to sell its drugs to 46 Canadian pharmacies known to export to U.S. customers. The company now sells directly to the pharmacies. Those pharmacies' sales are monitored to avoid surpluses that could end up back in the United States.

This is an effort to better enforce our terms of sale that require that the medicines not be exported, said Nehl Horton, a Pfizer spokesman. Pfizer maintains several operations in Michigan, including a research hub in Ann Arbor.

We believe there are health and safety risks associated with importation, and we don't want to be a part of a supply system that's in violation of the law, Horton added.

Canadian drug exporters say the crackdown is causing shortages, raising prices and slowing deliveries.


The restrictions are having a desired effect from the brand-name pharmaceuticals' point of view. They've created huge difficulties. They've slowed the whole process down, said Dave Robertson, owner of Crossborderpharmacy.com, a Calgary, Alberta, pharmacy that fills several thousand Internet prescriptions a day -- 96 percent of them for U.S. consumers.
Check out crossborderpharmacy and tell me the drug companies have succeded. Bwaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa.

Will other drug companies join the crackdown?

We've heard grumbling that Merck & Co., Abbott Laboratories and Eli Lilly are next, said Andy Troszok, vice president of the Canadian International Pharmacy Association in Calgary. No official word has come from any of them yet.

To cope with drug supply shut-offs, Robertson and other Internet pharmacists turn to wholesalers and other Canadian pharmacies that haven't been affected by the restrictions. But those outlets are charging as much as 30 percent more for drugs because they also risk supply cutoffs for assisting blacklisted counterparts.

We have to find pharmacies that are sympathetic to our situation and will help us out, Robertson said. Obviously that will affect our costs and the costs for our customers.

Prices for GlaxoSmithKline drugs have increased 22 percent at online Canadian pharmacies since March, according to PharmacyChecker.com, a Web site that compares online pharmacy prices. Some pharmacies have increased prices 50 percent on certain Glaxo products. The company's crackdown -- the first in the industry -- started in January. AstraZeneca adopted curbs in April, Wyeth in June and Pfizer in August.

The supplier restrictions work, Robertson said, because most Canadian pharmacies that fill Internet prescriptions are small corner drugstores whose U.S. Internet customers make up only 5 to 10 percent of their business. They're likely to drop their U.S. customers if it jeopardizes the bulk of their trade.

One big supplier that's been affected is the American Drug Club, which operates a walk-in pharmacy in Winnipeg, Manitoba, and an online unit at www.americandrugclub.com that serves about 60,000 U.S. customers. Pfizer and Glaxo no longer supply drugs to the Internet outlet and, according to Brandy O'Reilly, the pharmacy's director of operations, have created additional paperwork that delays filling prescriptions for walk-in clients in Canada.

Your purchasing of our drugs had better not affect the prices of those same drugs here in Canada, otherwise I am going to demand we close the fucking border to the Americans.
 
What did I tell you bitches? Did I not tell you it was the drug companies who actually manufacture the drugs for Canada who were preventing you from purchasing those same drugs from Canada? Yet you thought it was your own government. Bwaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaa. Fuck but Americans are stupid. That's why the drug companies rob them blind. Americans are too dumb to know when they have been fleeced.

Drugmakers Curb Canadian Outlets - Prescription tabs increase for buyers from the U.S.

WASHINGTON -- Canadian Internet pharmacies that sell discounted prescription drugs to U.S. consumers are struggling to find new suppliers in response to tough new sales restrictions imposed by major drug companies.

The companies include giants like Pfizer Inc., Wyeth Pharmaceuticals, GlaxoSmithKline and AstraZeneca.

Reimporting prescription drugs from Canada and other countries is illegal, but it's become a multimillion-dollar industry due to lax enforcement by the Food and Drug Administration and consumer frustration with spiraling U.S. drug costs. Canada's Internet drug sales were projected to double this year to $1.4 billion, according to Jupiter Research, a business and technology research firm in Darien, Conn.
Fucking dumb Americans. How can it be illegal to import drugs that were manufactured in your own country? You Americans take this sitting down? Fuck you all. Dumb motherfuckers.

The drug industry insists the restrictions are intended to ensure product safety. Consumer advocates and Internet drug sellers say they're a thinly veiled effort to recoup profits lost when Canadian companies buy drugs cheaply due to government price controls and resell them to Americans accustomed to much higher prices. The ploy, called reimportation, can save U.S. customers 50 percent or more on some drugs.
Did not the pharmaceuticals just finish admitting the drugs were 'reimported', and nothing more? So, they argue that their own drugs are 'unsafe'? Bwaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Fucking Americans read this and still say nothing. Dumb motherfuckers.

GlaxoSmithKline, whose U.S. operations are based in Philadelphia and Research Triangle Park, N.C., requires Canadian wholesalers and pharmacies to certify that they don't export the company's medications. Those that don't take the pledge are cut off.
Oh boo hoo. Lots of drug companies out there you motherfuckers. Do not presume to tell us what to do with a product we have already purchased. Once we have paid for them, they belong to us. From that point on, we are free to do whatever we may. Fuck you and the drugged-up horse you rode in on.

Wyeth, based in Collegeville, Pa., and the British drugmaker AstraZeneca, say they're watching Canadian pharmacies and wholesale customers for increases in sales volume that could be evidence of reimportation.

We've restricted the amount we're shipping to suppliers based on their previous orders, said Jenifer Antonacci, a Wyeth spokeswoman.

New York-based Pfizer, the world's largest drug company, no longer permits wholesalers to sell its drugs to 46 Canadian pharmacies known to export to U.S. customers. The company now sells directly to the pharmacies. Those pharmacies' sales are monitored to avoid surpluses that could end up back in the United States.

This is an effort to better enforce our terms of sale that require that the medicines not be exported, said Nehl Horton, a Pfizer spokesman. Pfizer maintains several operations in Michigan, including a research hub in Ann Arbor.

We believe there are health and safety risks associated with importation, and we don't want to be a part of a supply system that's in violation of the law, Horton added.

Canadian drug exporters say the crackdown is causing shortages, raising prices and slowing deliveries.


The restrictions are having a desired effect from the brand-name pharmaceuticals' point of view. They've created huge difficulties. They've slowed the whole process down, said Dave Robertson, owner of Crossborderpharmacy.com, a Calgary, Alberta, pharmacy that fills several thousand Internet prescriptions a day -- 96 percent of them for U.S. consumers.
Check out crossborderpharmacy and tell me the drug companies have succeded. Bwaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa.

Will other drug companies join the crackdown?

We've heard grumbling that Merck & Co., Abbott Laboratories and Eli Lilly are next, said Andy Troszok, vice president of the Canadian International Pharmacy Association in Calgary. No official word has come from any of them yet.

To cope with drug supply shut-offs, Robertson and other Internet pharmacists turn to wholesalers and other Canadian pharmacies that haven't been affected by the restrictions. But those outlets are charging as much as 30 percent more for drugs because they also risk supply cutoffs for assisting blacklisted counterparts.

We have to find pharmacies that are sympathetic to our situation and will help us out, Robertson said. Obviously that will affect our costs and the costs for our customers.

Prices for GlaxoSmithKline drugs have increased 22 percent at online Canadian pharmacies since March, according to PharmacyChecker.com, a Web site that compares online pharmacy prices. Some pharmacies have increased prices 50 percent on certain Glaxo products. The company's crackdown -- the first in the industry -- started in January. AstraZeneca adopted curbs in April, Wyeth in June and Pfizer in August.

The supplier restrictions work, Robertson said, because most Canadian pharmacies that fill Internet prescriptions are small corner drugstores whose U.S. Internet customers make up only 5 to 10 percent of their business. They're likely to drop their U.S. customers if it jeopardizes the bulk of their trade.

One big supplier that's been affected is the American Drug Club, which operates a walk-in pharmacy in Winnipeg, Manitoba, and an online unit at www.americandrugclub.com that serves about 60,000 U.S. customers. Pfizer and Glaxo no longer supply drugs to the Internet outlet and, according to Brandy O'Reilly, the pharmacy's director of operations, have created additional paperwork that delays filling prescriptions for walk-in clients in Canada.

Your purchasing of our drugs had better not affect the prices of those same drugs here in Canada, otherwise I am going to demand we close the fucking border to the Americans.

Hey, look at this little tidbit from www.crossborderpharmacy.com. I love this. We actually TELL you dumbfuck Americans why your own drugs are cheapher here in Canada. We tell you that your own drug companies are snowing you, yet you grin and bear it. MORONS!!!!!!!!

Q. Why are your prices so much lower than those in the U.S.?
In the U.S., pharmaceutical firms control pricing. The situation is different in most other developed countries, such as Canada, Israel, Australia, Chile and the UK. In addition, you save because of the favorable currency exchange rate when you use American dollars to pay for medications packaged in other countries. All crossborderpharmacy.com prices are shown in U.S. dollars.

So much for capitalism right my American bitches to the south? This is not capitalism, it is COLLUSION. The drug companies have formed a CARTEL. Ironic when you dumbshit Americans spend billions fighting the drug cartels of South America yes? It is these 'legal' drug companies you should be fighting, not the bitches importing marijuana and cocaine. Fuck you Americans are stupid.
 
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