Mentalist said:
But wow, just wow.... Rasicm is an unfounded and wholly illogical belief structure for one thing. Whether a certain amount of truth can be gleaned from ceratin races it is still an illogical measure of a persons personality and actions.
When it comes to individuals, yes. When it comes to cultures, no, because that's what racism really deals with -- cultures. The fact that cultures can manifest themselves across racial lines is what makes racist stereotypes fallacious -- but
only if those stereotypes are regarded as absolute, and absolutely isolated to a single race.
Plus it perpetrates hate.
Sometimes, sadly, hate of a culture is justified. For example, a hatred for Sunni culture is a form of racism that, like it or not, that culture has earned. That hatred, though, is only considered racism (by those who do and do not share it) because Sunni muslims are primarily Arabic, ethnically. The logical fallacy only comes in when we assign Sunni culture to
all Arabs.
Dont the Americans deport and in some cases arrest Muslim clerics for spouting hate infused ramblings agains tthe Western World that can be the basis of Terrorism.
I believe they usually need a more solid pretext than voicing their opinions. The closest scenario I can think of would be if a Muslim cleric were to do so publically and in the presence of a large group of supporters -- and then, an actual crime would have to be committed as a direct and demonstrable result of the rhetoric.
Yes, I agree that they were fucking idiots to play up and prove them right but that doesnt mean that every black person would act the same.
No, it doesn't. But without knowing what the ANP's rhetoric on the subject is, I can only tell you that it's only a fallacy if they claim that the behavior they were criticizing applies to blacks
absolutely and
exclusively.
So the Nazis are still being illogical and are entirely WRONG.
I think that you, like me, would need to know exactly what their rhetoric
is before such a value judgement is warranted. You have to know exactly what someone is saying before you can judge with any authority that what they're saying is wrong.
