Atomic Weggie
Lord of the Dance
The Question said:
Oh I know where I'm at, still doesn't justify being a racist. Nothing does.
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###### Riots In Toledo
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Oh I know where I'm at, still doesn't justify being a racist. Nothing does.
Atomic Weggie
Lord of the Dance
Chadarnook said:
Right, so let's just put up a chain link fence around "our own people," whatever that means.
Some aspects of hate = love? That's not love, that's insecurity. Real love is blind, not segmented into neat little packages of who looks like who.
Yes, peek your head out from behind your hood, there is such things as white gangs, ever hear of the skin heads? But of course they're just misunderstood right?
Atomic Weggie said:
Well, that sounds an awful lot like a generalization, to me. And racism is wrong why, again? (That's a trick question, in case you couldn't guess.)
Atomic Weggie
Lord of the Dance
Chadarnook said:
Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-
Function: noun
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
I'm sure you knew where to look.
Atomic Weggie said:
You know what it means, of course, or you wouldn't have said it. I hope.
Would you hate someone if they hurt someone you love?
No, those are gangs -- some of them -- but they weren't the ones rioting in Toledo, were they?
Oh. 14,000th post.
Atomic Weggie said:
Exactly. It's "our own people's" choice.
So, I take it your into Polygomy?
Just because I love my people doesn't mean I hate other peoples.
Behind my hood? You stupid little twat. I go to a college with mostly black people, and we get along just fine. I even tutor them.
You have any idea how terrifying it was to go to a public school in my early years? I would have prayed for some skinheads to attend with me.
For the most part. Though I don't really care for their image, I don't see them organizing crime on the level of other racial gangs.
Atomic Weggie
Lord of the Dance
The Question said:
I would hate THAT PERSON, not their entire race. See, I view each person on their own merits, not their entire race. If a white person hurt someone you love, would you then hate yourself? Doesn't make a lot of sense does it? So why do that with other races? Why not judge each person depending on their merits and actions?
No, those are gangs -- some of them -- but they weren't the ones rioting in Toledo, were they?
Oh. 14,000th post.
But if the skinheads rioted, would the Nazi's protest? No need to answer, purely rhetorical.
Atomic Weggie said:
For examples, see:
The Uhuru Movement (Black on White racism)
The Jewish Defense League (Jewish on Gentile racism)
MeCHA (Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan -- Hispanic on White racism.)
Samurai Spirits (Japanese National Socialism -- the site's in Japanese only beyond the flash intro, so it's hard to tell who they "hate", but one would imagine that gaijin would be considered non-citizens at worst if the Japanese variety follows the German model. If, on the other hand, the Japanese have taken their conception of National Socialism's views regarding minorities from the American cultural caricature of German National Socialism, gaijin could be in for far worse handling.)
Every race has its racists, and you'd do well to remember that before passing summary judgement on someone for doing nothing worse than you'd approve of someone else doing to him.
Atomic Weggie said:
Because some actions can logically be expected of certain groups. You know I'm right about this, if you think about it. Would you introduce a gay friend to a Southern Baptist preacher? If not, why not? Because you have every reason to expect that Southern Baptist preacher to have a certain attitude about your friend. And you also know that the majority -- no, not all, but the majority -- of Southern Baptist preachers are going to give a gay person a hard time. Why? Because that's part of being a Southern Baptist preacher.
That sounds oddly like a Zen riddle, for some reason. They went there to protest racism, whether you're able to see that or not. Black-on-white racism in the form of the crime black gangs were committing against white residents in the neighborhoods, and institutional racism on the part of police who didn't think the issue pressing enough to take effective action against it.
Atomic Weggie
Lord of the Dance
The Question said:
I'm a Catholic Question, and my church has many gays who are contributing members of our community. They serve communion, they lecture, they help with relgious education classes for children *GASP* (they're around children!). Why? Because they are good people. But this goes against the bible and against most religious ways of thinking? But our priest is smart enough to see past their sexual preference and see what good people they are.
To answer your question, I would hope that the Baptist preacher would accept anyone, no matter who they are. If not, then are they really men of God?
You really beleive that huh? They were there to protest BLACK crime and to espouse their points of view for segregation. "See what happens when we let those darn blacks into our white neighborhoods!" Again, skinheads getting into trouble?, they wouldn't be anywhere near Ohio.
Atomic Weggie said:
Apples and Oranges.
You would hope -- but would you expect?
And their point was roundly proven, wasn't it?
Probably not, because you're forgetting the second thing they were protesting -- police apathy in enforcing the law on behalf of white residents. Tell me you think the police would let skinheads get away with anything, when those same police actually violated those Nazis' First Amendment right to peacably assemble.
Oh, look, Doc! Here's some more propaganda! Ooh, and here's some more! Oh, my GOD, THIS IS THE WORST PROPAGANDA YET! Oh, no wait, I bet the Weather Channel's even worse, those Nazi weather bastards! :gagh:
Atomic Weggie
Lord of the Dance
The Question said:
Don't know how I missed this little nugget. I agree that every race has it's racists, but all racism is wrong and until we ALL realize that, we'll never see peace.
I would never approve of unsubstantiated racial violence, no matter which side of the fence it comes from.
Atomic Weggie said:
Then until I see you pro-actively speaking up against racism directed against whites, a sense of fairness and equality might compel you to restrain yourself from bestowing a guilt trip on white racists that you're not generous enough to extend to racists of every other stripe.