Nigger Riots In Toledo

[The Question]

...how am I dodging his assertion that I need to address the spokesperson by slamming him?

The ad hominem comes in where you attack CoyoteUgly for posing the question you tried so hard not to answer, rather than giving a meaningful answer.

Kid.

 

[SilentBtViolent]

I still think you're off on this.

I could've sworn ad hominem is something like:

a: Argument x!

b: You are stupid!

But I view our exchange as:

a: Argument x!

b: Argument x is false on its face. Also, you are stupid!

 

[The Question]

Here's the instant replay:

I'm pointing out that you're an idiot for saying that a spokesperson defines anything resembling the truth.

Simultaneously attacking the honesty of the spokesman and the intelligence of the poster who asked you the question about the spokesman does not answer the question: "Did the spokesman advocate violence?"

You're not in any position to talk about proper use of fallacy identification or basic reading comprehension.

Now sit down and shut up.

 

[SilentBtViolent]

Why is attacking the honesty of the spokesman ad hominem, again? I really think you're missing the point, bucko.

The spokesman is the premise of all his arguments of why there is no incitement to violence.

I am saying that spokesman is an unreliable source and therefore cannot be a foundation for further discussion.

Clear enough?

And I think I'm in a perfect position to talk about whatever the fuck I please.

 

[The Question]

Why is attacking the honesty of the spokesman ad hominem, again?

Because you can't demonstrate that he's lying.

I really think you're missing the point, bucko.

You haven't been here long enough to know this, so I'll tell you: I don't miss points.

The spokesman is the premise of all his arguments of why there is no incitement to violence.

I am saying that spokesman is an unreliable source and therefore cannot be a foundation for further discussion.

Which is exactly what I said you were doing -- it's an ad hominem because there is no way for you to back up your claim with facts. You're essentially just calling the spokesman a liar -- and because you can't demonstrate that he's a liar, and because you've chosen to call him a liar instead of answering the question you were asked, it's an ad hominem fallacy.

And I think I'm in a perfect position to talk about whatever the fuck I please.

Well, you do so at the risk of providing evidence which can later be used to call into question your own credibility. But do enjoy making an ass of yourself.

 

[Atomic Weggie]

Actually, most of the sources I cite in order to prove that are sites that either do not address the question at all, or actually support the official story. On the rare occasions when I do use skeptical sources, I exclusively use sources which draw from mainstream records with full notation and references.

You should give all the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the holocost victims a call then and let the know their relatives never existed. Tell them their family trees were immaculate conception.

 

[Ishcabittle]

No, your faux yiddish buddy there, ishkabibble

What I do? I thought we were all kidding in this thread, right?

 

[proteon]

Actually if I may, the actual Ad Hominem performed by Silent was in trying to pass of his negative view of racism by saying it is an attribute of the weak. That there is a textbook Ad Hominem. Fuck racism. Only assholes are racist.

You know at heart isn't racism. It's the negative associations with each race that has us all so bound up - and these negative associations are thousands of years old; and have been both passed down in legitimate experience and in ages of propaganda. Axel Rose once said in an interview years and fucking years ago something to the tune of "in America everybody has to be different you know? You have to be different you have to be special - but if you stand up and point or make a fucking comment about how different we are everyone goes apeshit." He went on to say that rasism in general was good. Not the hate of it, but that you shouldn't be afraid to say 'we are not the same'.

Lastly I say quit fucking nit picking with one another over the stupid shit. Fucking, rhetoric rhetoric rhetoric. The fact is folks it is up to YOU as to where it goes from here. I for one don't believe in utopia. Or change, really I guess. But hate and anger are best activated by choice. I'm not talking about a crowd of two dozen Nazi protestors and a crowd of 100 who screamed racial hatred at each other in a town that I for one don't fucking live in and unless I missed something none of you do either. I'm not even saying play nice. I'm saying this - if there is any TRUTH to be learned in ANY form, you won't find it winning over the details. I wouldn't know however about that last part. Maybe you fucking do win over the details.

 

[Anubis]

You should give all the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the holocost victims a call then and let the know their relatives never existed. Tell them their family trees were immaculate conception.

And the people that discover their long-thought dead relatives?

Really, you folks have brought a knife to a gunfight.

 

[The Question]

You should give all the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the holocost victims a call then and let the know their relatives never existed. Tell them their family trees were immaculate conception.

People who do not exist give birth to children who do not exist. There's no one to call.

 

[SilentBtViolent]

I wrote a long reply, but I'll just stop this right now.

I think it takes no skill to be grammar cop and high school debate team captain. Who fucking cares?

Put some originality into your posts to earn some of my respect.

Right now I think you just dislike me because I trolled you my first day here. Grow up.

 

[Atomic Weggie]

People who do not exist give birth to children who do not exist. There's no one to call.

If they don't exist, then why are we talking about them? Either you're very good at trolling Question, or you're delusional. Either way, you're entertaining the hell out of me.

I haven't had this much fun since one of my clients told me he was abducted by aliens.

 

[SilentBtViolent]

Four minutes, and none of you fuckers called me on this yet? For Pete's sake, they are two short Latin words...

 

[Atomic Weggie]

And the people that discover their long-thought dead relatives?

Really, you folks have brought a knife to a gunfight.

But everyone runs faster with the knife.

 

[SilentBtViolent]

I think Wegg is saying you guys are assholes for trying to troll on this no-Holocaust thing.

I, meanwhile, sincerely dislike The Question because he actually thinks he is smarter than everyone.

Not smart enough to get a life where has anything to share besides venom, IMO.

Not that I'm a hippy, but I'm down with actually acting like I'm happy and well-adjusted from time to time.

 

[Atomic Weggie]

I think Wegg is saying you guys are assholes for trying to troll on this no-Holocaust thing.

I, meanwhile, sincerely dislike The Question because he actually thinks he is smarter than everyone.

Not smart enough to get a life where has anything to share besides venom, IMO.

Not that I'm a hippy, but I'm down with actually acting like I'm happy and well-adjusted from time to time.

No, I really think Question believes his own rhetoric. Unless his sigs and numerous site links on white supremacy that just happen to be at the tip of his fingers are all one big charade. Then that's just sad.

I hope he is for real, cause that makes his insanity that much more entertaining. Anyone can troll, it takes a true dymentia ridddled individual to hold a forum spellbound.

 

[SilentBtViolent]

Nah, it's just his latest schtick.

He used to have this cheesy avvy of himself peering into his Webcam like it was a security camera.

He's not pretending on the unfunny part, though. Click on his name, view his posts, and try to find something funny.

Im-possible. I'll give everything in the bank to the first one to find something funny that TQ has posted, ever!!

I don't think it's out there, like Bigfoot.

 

[SilentBtViolent]

BTW I changed my title to "Nigger Lover" like four hours ago.

Does it always take this long to show up?

 

[The Question]

If they don't exist, then why are we talking about them?

You brought them up. Tell me how that makes you feel.

Either you're very good at trolling Question, or you're delusional. Either way, you're entertaining the hell out of me.

Okay, then.

I haven't had this much fun since one of my clients told me he was abducted by aliens.

Kinda taller guy, was he? Happen to notice whether or not a cute little redhead dropped him off?

 

[The Question]

Four minutes, and none of you fuckers called me on this yet? For Pete's sake, they are two short Latin words...

Okay, fine -- but you didn't have any ad hominem in that one. You had a Red Herring, a Style Over Substance and an Appeal to Motive.