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North Korea says nuclear test successful , Oh shit.

bad dog

RIP DOG.
yea, they did it. dumb bastards are begging for an ass kicking.

More reports are coming in about seismic activity.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061009/ap_on_re_as/koreas_nuclear

SEOUL, South Korea - North Korea said Monday it has performed its first-ever nuclear weapons test. U.S. and South Korean officials could not immediately confirm the report.

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Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said information still needed to be analyzed to determine whether North Korea truly conducted the test.

The North's official Korean Central News Agency said the underground test was performed successfully and there was no radioactive leakage from the site.

South Korean intelligence officials said a seismic wave of magnitude-3.58 had been detected in North Hamkyung province, according to Yonhap. It said the test was conducted at 10:36 a.m. (9:36 p.m. EDT Sunday) in Hwaderi near Kilju city on the northeast coast, citing defense officials.

North Korean scientists "successfully conducted an underground nuclear test under secure conditions," the KCNA report said, adding this was "a stirring time when all the people of the country are making a great leap forward in the building of a great prosperous powerful socialist nation."

The director of South Korea's monitoring center that is watching for a test with sound and seismic detectors declined to immediately comment on the reported test.

"We don't know whether it is a nuclear test or not," an official at the earthquake center at the Korea Institute of Geoscience and Mineral Resources said on condition of anonymity, citing the sensitive nature of the issue.

The U.S. Geological Survey said it had detected no seismic activity in North Korea, although it was not clear whether a blast would be strong enough for its sensors.

The North said last week it would conduct a test, sparking regional concern and frantic diplomatic efforts aimed at dissuading Pyongyang from such a move. North Korea has long claimed to have nuclear weapons, but had never before performed a known test to prove its arsenal.

"The nuclear test is a historic event that brought happiness to our military and people," KCNA said. "The nuclear test will contribute to maintaining peace and stability in the Korean peninsula and surrounding region."

On Sunday night, U.S. government officials said a wide range of agencies were looking into the report of the nuclear test, which officials were taking seriously.

South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun has convened a meeting of security advisers over the issue, Yonhap reported, and intelligence over the test has been exchanged between concerned countries.

Kyodo News agency reported that the Japanese government has set up a taskforce in response to reports of the test.

The North has refused for a year to attend international talks aimed at persuading it to disarm. The country pulled out of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty in 2003 after U.S. officials accused it of a secret nuclear program, allegedly violating an earlier nuclear pact between Washington and Pyongyang.

Speculation over a possible North Korean test arose earlier this year after U.S. and Japanese reports cited suspicious activity at a suspected underground test site.
 
IIRC a very possible test was conducted even EARLIER in which very similar results were achieved. It's possible no one really mentioned it because there were enough problems with the Middle East already.
 
The USGS would know right away , seismographs would see it like an earthquake but as a very sharp spike.

You can't hide a nuke blast from the USGS.

I can see if I can get the seismograph data , it will show.
 
Here's how it's probably playing out:

"Iran's gonna! Iran's gonna! Iran's gonna!"
"Um, dude... we don't know that for sure. But North Korea just did -- and they can actually hit us with one."
"Who cares! Iran's gonna!"
 
I'm sure when the next one goes off outside your window, it will be a great comfort to know its only a 20 kiloton device.
 
I don't understand how this could happen. After Bill Clinton and Madelaine Albright gave the North Koreans nuclear reactors, they promised they had no nuclear weapons program and only wanted peace! So of course, one group of Communists to another, Team Clinton believed them. Because fellow commies don't lie!

A big thank you to the Bush administration for confronting the North Koreans with our proof that they had lied to Team Clinton, at which point the thugs then proudly announced their nuclear weapons program. Hey as long as they were caught, might as well be boast about it, right?

The Axis of Evil is collapsing. We've taken out Iraq, Iran is on notice, and so are their buddies in North Korea. All without the help, moral or otherwise, of the Democrats. Big surprise.

-Ogami
 
bad dog said:
The USGS would know right away , seismographs would see it like an earthquake but as a very sharp spike.

You can't hide a nuke blast from the USGS.

I can see if I can get the seismograph data , it will show.

There's a seismograph at my place of work...I'll check it tomorrow and let you know.
 
here is a good one.

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Ogami said:
We've taken out Iraq,

My fellow Americans, major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed. - President George W. Bush, May 1st, 2003

*Snicker*

Iran is on notice,

We're working toward a diplomatic solution to this crisis. - President George W. Bush, Sept. 20th, 2006 UN Speech

Strong notice indeed.

and so are their buddies in North Korea.

"I believe it's best to make that choice clear to him with more than one voice. What I believe is we can solve the problem diplomatically. These problems didn’t arise overnight and they don’t get solved overnight." - President George W. Bush, July 07, 2006, Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry Press Conference.

That and a box of chocolates should have had both Iran and North Korea cowering in fear by now you would think.


All without the help, moral or otherwise, of the Democrats. Big surprise.

First you bitch cause they fucked everything up before. Now you bitch because they step aside and let the Republicans fuck everything up.

The bottom line is you people just wouldn't be happy without SOMEONE ELSE to blame.
 
Why, exactly what Bush did after Al Queada attacked on 9/11 of course! He ignored the real threat and invaded Iraq.

I'd huff and puff a bit, stick out my chest a few times, then ignore the real threats and go invade Armenia, Azerbaijan or Turkmenistan just for the hell of it.
 
A) We invaded Afghanistan first.

Could we, for a change, put aside partisan bickering and think about a workable solution? Or is it better to stand around making smart alec remarks while the missile silos are loaded and the launch begins?

What can we do, short of war, besides a UN sanction? What would the ramifications be if we took out their missile silos without a UN blessing? N. Korea is China's client state. Can we do anything to convince China to intervene? Would that even be a wise idea?
 
eloisel said:
Could we, for a change, put aside partisan bickering and think about a workable solution? Or is it better to stand around making smart alec remarks while the missile silos are loaded and the launch begins?
Because it's not possible to negotiate with the current wackos in the White House, even if the other group wasn't a bunch of spineless cowards.
 
Nuclear blackmail

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15243.htm

North Korea has repeatedly agreed to junk its nuclear weapons provided the US does three things: 1. deal directly with Pyongyang, which Washington refuses to do; 2. provide security guarantees that the US will not attack North Korea; 3. provide economic aid. The Bush Administration’s hard-line neoconservatives refuse to ‘validate’ North Korea’s totalitarian regime through direct talks. Neocons are determined to overthrow Kim Jong-il.
 
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