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"Son, the world is rough..."

Volpone

Zombie Hunter
"...and if a man's gonna make it he's got to be tough..."
-or-
Dealing with goofballs on CraigsList and other random musings.

So if you're selling a car on CraigsList, you've got to understand that about 80% of the people you deal with are flakes that will waste your time. They'll want the car--need it--have to have it--TODAY. Then when you set up a time and place for them to see it, they won't show. But I've never come to someone's house and had them not show.

I'm moving and won't be bringing my car with me. Tomorrow night I get on a plane so lets just say I'm a motivated seller. Initially I priced the car at $1,200--fair market value for it, according to Blue Book. That got no traction, so I went down to $999.

This at least generated interest. One guy absolutely wanted to see it and wanted to know when he could see it. He never replied when I gave him some times. One kid actually looked at it. And I mean "kid". I offered to let him test drive it and he drove it around the mall parking lot(!). He never got back to me.

So last night, I got a call while I was at a going away party from someone who wanted to see the car--that night if possible. I arranged to call him a couple hours later when I could talk. I called him and he said he wanted to see it this morning BUT could I come to his house? Sure, I said. AND would I take $700 for the car? :garamet: Sure, I said. (Heck, I'll either get fucked by a used car dealer who'll give me maybe $500 or just donate the car to charity, so $700 wasn't terrible.)

So he e-mails me his address and the time to show up: 11:30 barely still morning. But if the car gets out of my hands, it'll be worth it. So I get in my car and drive 45 minutes to the location. The guy calls me halfway there to ensure I'm coming. I arrive at 11:31. There's no one there. :garamet: So I call him. Get voicemail. Double-check the number and call again. Voicemail again.

So I've just blown around 2 hours and a couple gallons of gas on a wild goose chase. He eventually called me almost an hour after the time he said to show up. Of course by then I'd programmed my cell phone to show him on caller ID as "waste." I dunno. Maybe I'll call him back and offer to sell the car to him for $1200 if he comes to me to see it.

The moral of our tale? I dunno. At the most literal level, that the people who buy beater cars on CraigsList in Hawaii are even less reliable than the cars they're buying.

At a more philosophical level, Jesus, while he had a pretty neat idea, was completely wrong. You can't be nice to people. Because most people don't deserve to be treated with compassion--don't want it, even. They want to be herded and told what to do and taken advantage of by the few that are hard enough and mean enough to do it. And that everyone from the Marine Corps, with their method of training to Johnny Cash in "Boy Named Sue" is on the mark in that you have to be a hard, mean, dickhead to succeed in this world.
 
This is definitely TL;DR material. For those who are wondering, don't read it. It's a giant waste of time.
 
I agree. It sucks and is boring. Send me your ticket stub and I'll reimburse your price of admission.
 
It was free, but I got ripped off anyway.

That's several minutes of my life I'll never get back.
 
Cheer up. There are plenty of people who are looking for ways to kill time. If you were a shut-in or a prison inmate or a Wal*Mart employee or something, you'd be grateful to me for eating up a couple minutes of your miserable, tedious life while you wait for sweet, sweet death.
 
OK. Think of it this way: If you were getting a blowjob, you could read this thread to help you concentrate and not come as quickly.
 
It saddens me that such a wonderful, bright, and shining post, with so much potential was wasted on this place. :jayzus:
 
:doh: Shit. I could've! I knew where he lived! :bang:

And on the other side of the coin, I was about 99% certain my landlord was going to weasel out of paying me my deposit back. I was resigned to that the guy was perpetually short of money and had spent it, but then the day before I left the island he said we'd go to his bank and get it out of his savings account--in cash--so I had hopes.

3 1/2 hours before the bank closed I hadn't heard from him, so I called him. Left a voicemail. An hour later I'm working up a fine rage so I call the base SJA (JAG, the lawyers) to find out what my options are--and to use them as a bluff. After setting up an appointment to meet with a military lawyer in a couple hours I called the landlord back. Left another message.

A half hour later I got a call from him, all defensive and full of excuses for why he hadn't gotten to me yet, but promising he'd be by in 45 minutes--15 minutes before I was supposed to meet with the JAG, 30 minutes away. I told him I was glad for that, but I had other business to take care of and I'd have to meet him as soon as I could.

I went ahead and talked to the lawyer and during the meeting I got a call from the landlord. On the way back I got a couple more calls from him, and when I got there he was all butthurt. I told him "That's too bad, but you've got to understand my position. I know you're strapped for cash and I'm getting on a plane in 3 hours. If could've avoided me for 3 more hours, it would've been very hard for me to ever collect."

We talked some more and then he paid me (less a reasonable amount for wear and tear) and when I left I knew he respected me more than when I was nice and understanding with him.

Ronnie Reagan was right. "Trust. But verify."
 
So if we just go around the board using smilies that aren't loaded in TK will MM put them all in for us?
:flow: :ramen46:
 
Who wants to live on Hawaii anyway? It's all sunshine and beaches and surfing... :rolleyes:
The good things about Hawaii:
-The temperature ranges from 68F to 78F over the course of a year.
-Pineapples are cheap.
-The snorkeling.
-The water is warm enough that you don't need a wetsuit to surf.
-If you really needed to, you could be homeless--you don't need more than a very basic shelter, you don't need a license to fish, coconuts are free if you know where to look.
-The place is beautiful.
-Poke'.
-Fine rum drinks.
-Excellent motorcycle riding 90% of the time and year-round.
-Taking the motorcycle on the Superferry to Maui.

The bad things about Hawaii:
-Everything else is really, really expensive.
-If you want to visit another city, it's a 5+ hour flight.
-Traffic jams 6+ hours a day.
-People driving about 15mph too slow the rest of the time.
-Everyone is lazy and/or a con man.
-Because of the traffic and the attitude, it is easier to find a decent place to surf in California.
-No Targets. None of a lot of the franchises you take for granted.
-99% of the food is shipped in so it is overpriced and stale/overripe.
-When I ordered a computer through Amazon I had to have it shipped to an address I maintain in Portland, where they mailed it to me. It was impossible to have it shipped direct.
-Spam and rice are considered delicacies.
-After you've driven around the island clockwise, all that remains to do for excitement is to drive around the island counterclockwise. (Or for variety, drive across it a couple times.)
-The traffic is so bad that about half your motorcycle riding is done below 15mph.
-The Superferry is 3 hours, one way and the trip will set you back a couple hundred (including a hotel).
-All the goddamned homeless people.
-It is a dirty, crime-ridden place.
 
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