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Ive been re-watching NGE this mpast week and im wondering if the names of the Angels are biblical references? There are definetly a few that are blatent references to the bible (like the 3 Magie and their names) but im not exactly sure about the Angles. The names sound familiar but i just cant place it. Any help?
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Re: Evangelion and the bible [Re: clint g]
#5396086 - 21/12/2005 08:22 Edit Reply Quote
They're not from the bible but from a book of the apocrypha, the Book of Enoch, if memory serves.
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"They found his corpse in 2019, floating out in space near Alpha."
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Loc: Back home in NYC Re: Evangelion and the bible [Re: Fencer]
#5396092 - 21/12/2005 08:26 Edit Reply Quote
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They're not from the bible but from a book of the apocrypha, the Book of Enoch, if memory serves.
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Enoch being one of Adams decendents and grandfather of Noah?
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"You want 50's music? Buy a CD. Grab a DVD if you want to see the guy move. But if you want to pretend to be Curtis Jackson, take your fifty bucks out to a paintball range and let someone drill you nine times. It'll be a better experience than this."- Gamespy on 50 Cent's game
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Re: Evangelion and the bible [Re: clint g]
#5396316 - 21/12/2005 12:30 Edit Reply Quote
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Posted by Fencer:
They're not from the bible but from a book of the apocrypha, the Book of Enoch, if memory serves.
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Enoch being one of Adams decendents and grandfather of Noah?
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Yes. Enoch was the seventh Patriarch after Adam, a decedendant of Cain, and great-grandfather to Noah. I belive that the book is apocrphya in rabbincal, as well as christian, canon but is condsidered a source of knowledge for Kabbalhists. The Tree of Life is also from Kabbalah.
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"God is dead", Nick said.
"They found his corpse in 2019, floating out in space near Alpha."
- p. 50 Philip K. Dick "Our Friends from Frolix 8" (Panther, London, 1970)
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Loc: NC fulltime, Gallifrey Part Ti... Re: Evangelion and the bible [Re: Fencer]
#5397313 - 21/12/2005 18:03 Edit Reply Quote
The Book of Enoch is part of the Pseudipigrapha, not the canon. It dates from the Macabean period. Only the Ethiopian Coptic Church includes it in their canon. They reject the Council of Chalcedon and are a Monophyisite Church, not part of the Protestant or Roman Communions of the West or the Eastern Orthodox Communion.
"Canonical" in Christian parlance means "authoritative for establishing doctrine." "Apocryphal" means "having ecclesiastical authority," that is to say, useful for reading and edification but not for establishing doctrine." Canonical works are normative for the churches. Non-canonical works are references, but not normative for the churches. The Roman and Eastern Orthodox Communions use some Apocryphal works in order to to establish doctrine. The Protestant Communions use the canon of the Post-Nicene churches, not the canon established by the Council of Trent in response to the Reformation.
Jude is aware of Enoch and alludes to it in the narrative. Tertullian, who became a Montanist, is the only Ante-Nicene Father to express affiniity for it. The book was lost until the early 17th century, when it was discovered in an Ethiopic translation.
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The greatest judgment which God Himself can, in this present life, inflict upon a man is, to leave him in the hand of his own boasted free-will.
-AUGUSTUS TOPLADY
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"You want 50's music? Buy a CD. Grab a DVD if you want to see the guy move. But if you want to pretend to be Curtis Jackson, take your fifty bucks out to a paintball range and let someone drill you nine times. It'll be a better experience than this."- Gamespy on 50 Cent's game
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Re: Evangelion and the bible [Re: clint g]
#5396086 - 21/12/2005 08:22 Edit Reply Quote
They're not from the bible but from a book of the apocrypha, the Book of Enoch, if memory serves.
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"God is dead", Nick said.
"They found his corpse in 2019, floating out in space near Alpha."
- p. 50 Philip K. Dick "Our Friends from Frolix 8" (Panther, London, 1970)
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clint g
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Loc: Back home in NYC Re: Evangelion and the bible [Re: Fencer]
#5396092 - 21/12/2005 08:26 Edit Reply Quote
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Posted by Fencer:
They're not from the bible but from a book of the apocrypha, the Book of Enoch, if memory serves.
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Enoch being one of Adams decendents and grandfather of Noah?
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"You want 50's music? Buy a CD. Grab a DVD if you want to see the guy move. But if you want to pretend to be Curtis Jackson, take your fifty bucks out to a paintball range and let someone drill you nine times. It'll be a better experience than this."- Gamespy on 50 Cent's game
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Fencer
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Re: Evangelion and the bible [Re: clint g]
#5396316 - 21/12/2005 12:30 Edit Reply Quote
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Posted by clint g:
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Posted by Fencer:
They're not from the bible but from a book of the apocrypha, the Book of Enoch, if memory serves.
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Enoch being one of Adams decendents and grandfather of Noah?
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Yes. Enoch was the seventh Patriarch after Adam, a decedendant of Cain, and great-grandfather to Noah. I belive that the book is apocrphya in rabbincal, as well as christian, canon but is condsidered a source of knowledge for Kabbalhists. The Tree of Life is also from Kabbalah.
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"God is dead", Nick said.
"They found his corpse in 2019, floating out in space near Alpha."
- p. 50 Philip K. Dick "Our Friends from Frolix 8" (Panther, London, 1970)
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peacemaker
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Loc: NC fulltime, Gallifrey Part Ti... Re: Evangelion and the bible [Re: Fencer]
#5397313 - 21/12/2005 18:03 Edit Reply Quote
The Book of Enoch is part of the Pseudipigrapha, not the canon. It dates from the Macabean period. Only the Ethiopian Coptic Church includes it in their canon. They reject the Council of Chalcedon and are a Monophyisite Church, not part of the Protestant or Roman Communions of the West or the Eastern Orthodox Communion.
"Canonical" in Christian parlance means "authoritative for establishing doctrine." "Apocryphal" means "having ecclesiastical authority," that is to say, useful for reading and edification but not for establishing doctrine." Canonical works are normative for the churches. Non-canonical works are references, but not normative for the churches. The Roman and Eastern Orthodox Communions use some Apocryphal works in order to to establish doctrine. The Protestant Communions use the canon of the Post-Nicene churches, not the canon established by the Council of Trent in response to the Reformation.
Jude is aware of Enoch and alludes to it in the narrative. Tertullian, who became a Montanist, is the only Ante-Nicene Father to express affiniity for it. The book was lost until the early 17th century, when it was discovered in an Ethiopic translation.
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The greatest judgment which God Himself can, in this present life, inflict upon a man is, to leave him in the hand of his own boasted free-will.
-AUGUSTUS TOPLADY
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