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Star Wars & Star Trek

I'm not sure. If it's been a while since you've seen certain episodes, they can feel new again. G4 is showing episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation that I haven't seen in a long time. Just got done watching 'Peak Performance', the Wargames episode from Season 2.

Plus, this board was founded by oppressed TrekBBS members in the first place. So I wouldn't be so quick to judge.
 
Orgasm inducing link

44. George Lucas

Charges: It needs to be said: George Lucas is an awful writer and a shitty, shitty director. His second Star Wars trilogy absolutely sucked from beginning to end, and was in fact the least brave creative endeavor he could possibly have chosen, a guaranteed grand slam. Lucas has grown so accustomed to massive commercial success that he has no idea he’s putting out the worst work of his career, and no one dares to tell him. Ultimately, it doesn’t matter, because an army of sexless, sedentary thirty-something dweebs with an unhealthy fixation on Princess Leia will insist that his schlock is brilliant as if their lives depend on it, and an absurdly disproportionate media blitz always brings the kids in. But everything that was great about the first trilogy—reasonably decent acting, an engaging storyline and cool model-based special effects—is gone, replaced by detestably unsympathetic characters reciting torturously bad dialogue in a manner so wooden that coaching from Keanu Reeves would have helped, and CGI effects that, while painstakingly crafted down to the nanopixel, somehow looked less real than plastic spaceships and Muppets.

Exhibit A: Already revising the new trilogy for DVD releases.

Sentence: Cast into the gaping maw of Tatooine’s all-powerful Sarlacc and digested alive for a thousand years, along with a talkative Jar Jar Binks.
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LOL!
 
There was (and still is) enough secondary material from both franchises to negate this:
SW was nothing more than a couple of films, and it still has just a strong fanbase as ST.
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Star Wars RPG - Star Wars novellas - Star Wars spin-off cartoons (Droids & Ewoks) - Star Wars Christmas Special with Chewie and C3PO - Mark Hamill on the Muppet Show (and the inevitable star wars sketch) - Star Wars video games out the fuckin' wazoo

There's just as much for Star Trek as there is for Star Wars... Mr. Flawed Logic man.
 
I like[d] both. there's no reason why the two have to be mutually exclusive as far as i can tell.

the main reason why the two are so endlessly compared with each other seem to be:

1 - they both have huge fanbases

2 - they both have 'star' in the title

i always considered them to be very different in many ways, although what they do have in common is that they've both been run into the ground and FUBAR.
 
I always saw Star Trek the same way I saw Batman on TV. I loved it whenever the music would come on and it was always comforting.
 
Star Trek is an embaressment to mankind. Awful waste of TV airtime and the films are horrid wastes of celluloid. Star Wars, though a glorified rip-off of The Seven Samurai, is still damn good. Nay, make that great.
 
Oh Come on, trolling fan-geeks on a fan-geek board, after all TK was formed by fan-geeks.

Fish in a barrel.

Now please stand by while I post "Star-whatever Sucks" and some photo-shopped photos of Carrie Fisher and that chick that played Dax in a set of brass bikinis, amorously engaged with a space-goat or something.
 
gprime said:
Star Wars, though a glorified rip-off of The Seven Samurai.......
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Let's not forget that it's also a rip-off of Le Morte D'Arthur, Dune, Lord of the Rings, Flash Gordon, and countless other literary and cinematic works, both in and out of the sci-fi genre.

So, if we allow the decidedly derivative to be counted as damned good, oh, nay, great, then we have to fling open the doors of acknowledged achievement to an awful lot of mediocrity.
 
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