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The problem with modern American feminism

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The problem with modern American feminism is the inability of this political and social movement to effectively adapt to the differing expectations of American women. American women are caught in the relentlessly changing cultural expectations. Career? Family? Marriage? Independence? American feminism seems to only present one answer – career and independence at the cost of marriage, healthy relationships with men, family. Yet when an American woman’s biological urges for procreation and domesticity surface (as they almost always do), the women are caught in an ugly vice. The jaws on one side are the needs to be a wife (and possibly mother) the jaws on the other are the feminist ideals of career and independence. American women lack the cultural and emotional sophistication to deal with this.

A female friend of mine recently tried to join a local political group that seeks to be mentors to teenage girls. However, this friend of mine lacks the advanced professional credentials that this group wants. My friend works in an office during the day and works in a restaurant at night – perfectly reasonable jobs and both worthy of respect.

However, the group of women she wanted to become involved with – spearheaded by a local female TV news reporter – made it clear that the group of women mentoring young girls would be made up of CEOs, doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. Are these the only role models for girls? Should there not be a whole bevy of options for American girls? How about a happy, stay-at-home mom or a contented wife in a childfree relationship as role models? Apparently these options are not viable for young American girls, if this group of modern feminists is to be believed.

Feminism also teaches women that men are the enemy, that we are brutish and foul creatures whose only point in life is to subjugate women with our sexual urges. So, the lesson continues, there can be no compromise with the enemy for that is losing the battle. God forbid that an American woman would want to make a man happy. That would be treasonous to the cause! When American women get together to compare notes, the peer pressure is not about happy relationships, but more about swapping stories of how they acquired the trappings of status regardless of state of their relationships. There is almost glee when women denigrate their boyfriends and husbands. “Oh, I really don’t care about making him happy, as long as have my (insert status symbol here)”.

I have an anecdote about my ex wife. I recently corresponded with her just before a hurricane was to strike where I live. She offered that I could stay with her in the event of evacuation. It was a gracious invitation. Yet, in her email she stated, “I’m sure my boyfriend won’t mind”. It was that one sentence revealed her true nature. It summarized everything that is so unappealing about American women and was a stark reminder of the reasons behind our divorce. Imagine, she invites her ex husband to stay with her but does not ask her boyfriend? Has she no respect for his feelings in this matter? That one sentence in her email is damning of her and insulting to him. I wish him luck.

The worst lessons of feminism – and the lessons that almost all American women have learned too well – is that women deserve it all without commensurate levels of sacrifice. It is the lesson that compromise is weakness. It is the lesson that they deserve affluence, the perfect family, the perfect man, and a life of entitlement without any cost to her.

Men know better. We knew that there is no “having it all”. There is no free lunch. We know that corporate success requires great sacrifice. Friends, relationships, hobbies, all play second fiddle to the climb up the corporate ladder. This we know. This we accept. We know that being an involved father usually means not getting all the promotions at work. Frustratingly, American women have not learned this lesson. So, they vent their frustrations at home and in the workplace, making for both difficult colleagues and second-rate mothers.

Feminism cannot accept that women cannot both be strong and independent while at the same time being the perpetual victim. Oh righteous feminist, which is it? Are women strong? Or are they weak? Do we hold open to door for the strong female executive? Do we not help a mother with young children by helping her with her grocery bags? You, righteous feminist, have recast the cultural rules yet you refuse to follow them. Is it any wonder why so many millions of men eschew marriage and relationships with American women? Can you not see the unintended consequences of your actions? Perhaps we are asking too much of you.

When an American man pitches woo to a foreign woman, it is a direct and bold statement that the man is not going to play the game that the American feminists so desperately want. A foreign woman is not (yet) burdened by the clash of expectations that American woman cannot cope with. A foreign woman typically has no problem with making a man happy because her culture tells her that a man’s happiness reflects well on her own success as a woman. Foreign women know that if they give love, they will receive love. They know that the unintended consequence of independence is loneliness.

The sad stereotype of the shrill, unfriendly, independent American career woman is becoming stronger and stronger. The equally repellent stereotype of the overwrought and unfriendly soccer mom shuttling her kids around while trying to keep her independence is also becoming part of our cultural landscape. The scowling American woman is all too common. It’s not men making her scowl. It’s her inability to see reality and choose appropriately that is making her scowl.

I am not angry with American women. I merely pity them. I pity them for embracing feminism without any critical thought. I pity them for making men the enemy and not loving partners. I pity them for their unsuccessful struggle with their own rules. I pity them for not understanding that life is about compromise and that compromise is not weakness.

When an American woman asks about my job, my car, my home I can only sigh in dismay. Men are not simply wallets to be looted. Nor are we all rapists and gorillas. We are complex and interesting humans who need respect and love, as do women. Pathetically, American women have been brainwashed into thinking that giving love and respecting men is somehow evil and wrong. No matter, American women can wallow in misery as much as they want. I will happily and respectfully court my Latin girlfriend and let independent and unfriendly American women enjoy their cats.

- - - By LatinasOnly

http://www.americanwomensuck.com/community/
 
Feminism is an inherently flawed concept. Women can never be equal to men, nor biologically, nor physically, why should they socially ?

Fighting blind discrimination, sexism and bigotry and "feminism" is something completely different.

"Woman, be my slave !"
 
she is waiting to kiss my hand
but she will wait for my command
my chains and collar brought her to her knees
she now is free to please
woman be my slave
that's your reason to live
woman be my slave
the greatest gift I can give
woman be my slave
before her surrender she had no life
now she's a slave not a wife
her only sorrow is for women who live with lies
she's taken off her disguise
woman be my slave
chained unto my bed
woman be my slave
begging to be fed
your body belongs to me
woman come here
remove your garments
kneel before me
please me
woman be my slave
 
I think there's lots of truth to that. There's a Japanese comic I've been reading--name's not important, as it's rather soap-ish and I doubt it'd appeal to anyone at TK--where one of the characters found herself pregnant by a boyfriend she'd recently dumped. The guy was not the best partner by a long shot, but he does step up to the plate and offers to take care of her and the child.

The majority of this series' readers are the teenage girls not unlike the ones in that article who have grown up with the mentality that everything >>>>>> relationships. --ones who think that it's easy to just throw away a relationship just for OMG T3H FREEDOMZ and stuff and that it's easy to be independent of a man, and little idiots who can't see that Japan (and most other countries in the world) holds high values on family and marriage, even the rather fucked up one that this is, and it's makes the female character in question no less strong not to put an effort into making it work over, say, walking away and burdening her family and friends emotionally and financially with a decision that only SHE made.

Long story short, talking with those fans really have opened up my eyes to the feminist movement's short-sightedness. I'm very glad that I, as a woman, can have a career if I choose to and am not forced to live off Hubby's income upon marriage. But why can't a woman choose to be a housewife without people foaming at the mouth and calling OMFG MENTAL ABUSE!!!!!one? I've seen a few people at other boards do this and with my experiences, it's not a choice I would make for myself. But I don't think any less of someone who does. Freedom of choice means freedom of ALL choices, and not just ones you ("you" being Feminazis) approve of.
 
But why can't a woman choose to be a housewife without people foaming at the mouth and calling OMFG MENTAL ABUSE!!!!!one?

I wish I had an asnwer for you but I don't. I do know that when I was going to college and when I talkied to many women about it. many confided in me personally that they wish they could just be housewives. Many just gave lip service because of the cultural values of the area they were in. It's hard to be the odd man out as it were.

As for myself, I have no problems with women who choose either path. It does say "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happyness".
 
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What area did they live? I'll bet it was some hippy area of California, huh? ;)
 
That article is a a prime example of why I am not a feminist.

I have no problem accepting that I can not do everything a man can do and I am exceptionally proud of what I as a woman can do but a man can not. I am neither weaker, nor stronger, I am neither smarter nor less smart I am just one woman.

I try my best to be an exceptional employee and a devoted girlfriend, my fiance is happy and so are my bosses. I do my best to raise my niece and nephew in the loving way I believe they should be raised and sometimes I fail but mostly I succeed and that's what life is all about.

The author is correct, no one, not men, not women, NO ONE can have it all without assloads of sacrifice and help.
 
American women lack the cultural and emotional sophistication to deal with this.
Actually they're being fed contrasting messages by a society of divorce-lawyers: i.e. that they are men's equals-- just "ladies first."
This paradox drives them insane; it would be like dressing a man in a bra and panties in full public view, and then laughing at him for it. Basically they're caught in a conflict they can't avoid without humiliation-- they're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Unfortunately, they don't have logic-chromosome to figure this out, so they respond emotionally rather than in logical expression and course-of-action.

Feminism also teaches women that men are the enemy, that we are brutish and foul creatures whose only point in life is to subjugate women with our sexual urges.

Yes, and thus they must think that male ANIMALS only mate for power as well-- thus self-fulfilling their completely illogical position that "male = evil."

However this doesn't stop women from USING their sexual power while they have it, in order to defraud men out of valuable things; then when they get too old, they suddenly get self-righteous about "men only wanting women for their bodies."
Then they get married.

Here's the facts: Currently the average age at marriage in the US is 26.8 years for men, and 25.1 years for women.
Women get married about 1.7 years younger than men, because it's the only time they can sell a declining stock at a premium rather than a loss.
Therefore as the human lifespan increases, men will receive a decided advantage over women.


So, the lesson continues, there can be no compromise with the enemy for that is losing the battle. God forbid that an American woman would want to make a man happy. That would be treasonous to the cause!

Women see men earning more-- but they take their perks for granted, while refusing to PRODUCE as much as men do, on average; they think life is about THEIR fulfillment.

The worst lessons of feminism – and the lessons that almost all American women have learned too well – is that women deserve it all without commensurate levels of sacrifice.It is the lesson that compromise is weakness. It is the lesson that they deserve affluence, the perfect family, the perfect man, and a life of entitlement without any cost to her.

It's probably that it has to do with the female mind, which thinks in relative terms rather than of absolutes; therefore their world-view is about how everything revolves around THEM.

Meanwhile, men are capable of realizing that others are just as important as they are-- that's where we got the concept of "universal rights--" not from women, who only believe in "WOMEN'S rights."

For example, if you ever argue with a woman, you'll see how her argument always shifts to reflect her benefit as an indisputable "fact--" against all logic. Arguments will come in from nowhere, completely non-sequitur etc. regarding how her point is a GIVEN, which is NOT to be questioned.

Example: "I didn't mean to cut your hand off at the wrist, but you were reaching for your money and I need it."

A bit exaggerated? Talk to the guy who knocked her up AFTER she swore she'd have an abortion- but who is now paying child-support.

Men know better. We knew that there is no “having it all”. There is no free lunch. We know that corporate success requires great sacrifice.

Because that involves respecting others like you respect yourself-- the old "Golden Rule;" i.e. giving for what you get. Anything else is stealing; however women have an entitlement complex of getting something for nothing, since they're not really capable of respect.

So they think they deserve equal pay AND a "fulfilling job--" while men work as coal-miners and test-pilots.

When an American man pitches woo to a foreign woman, it is a direct and bold statement that the man is not going to play the game that the American feminists so desperately want.

More like "out-sourcing" in response to a labor-strike by workers that would rather bankrupt the company than take a pay-cut.


The sad stereotype of the shrill, unfriendly, independent American career woman is becoming stronger and stronger.

And it's even worse, in that MEN are bullied into thinking that his WOMAN'S income and education reflects on him, when in reality it just makes things WORSE for him in every way:
As a rule, the more educated and wealthy your woman is, the uglier and meaner she'll be; this is because her looks contribute to her value, and so she expect her MAN to be richer in comparison. So the higher your income and education in comparison to hers, the HOTTER she'll be.

The equally repellent stereotype of the overwrought and unfriendly soccer mom shuttling her kids around while trying to keep her independence is also becoming part of our cultural landscape. The scowling American woman is all too common. It’s not men making her scowl. It’s her inability to see reality and choose appropriately that is making her scowl.

Actually it's the discrepancy between their American-media intilled expectations, and the cold harsh slap in the face of REALITY. And while one can LIVE in denial, only a true loon would BELIEVE it.

I am not angry with American women. I merely pity them.

I pity ALL dumb, suffering animals-- but I don't trust them, since those tend to be the most vicious and dangerous.

I will happily and respectfully court my Latin girlfriend and let independent and unfriendly American women enjoy their cats.
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I dunno, some latinas think you're "weak" if you don't smash her in the mouth.
 
You should post that first article over at turdforge. The Firefly Gushers would go apeshit over it.

It also inspired a new term in which I call rapegasm.

Essentially, what the writer is doing is character assasinating Whedon, which, in one sense could be considered a kind of rape if you think about it. But she's doing it with such glee I can fully imagine her having an orgasm over her hatred of him and the show.

Thus, rapegasm.

It can also be applied to many others who use this tactic and thouroughly enjoy using the tactic. They have a rapegasm over it.
 
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