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'This Is Not Right'

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During the stay she made sandwiches for the kids and was careful to pack the knives she used to prepare those sandwiches in her checked luggage. She says she even alerted security screeners that the knives were in her checked bags and they told her that was OK.

But Beaman says she couldn't find a third knife. It was a 5 1/2 inch bread knife with a rounded tip and a serrated edge. She thought she might have lost or misplaced it during the trip.

On the trip home, screeners with the Transportation Security Administration at Los Angeles International Airport found it deep in the outside pocket of a carry-on cooler. Beaman apologized and told them it was a mistake.

"You've committed a felony," Beaman says a security screener announced. "And you're considered a terrorist."

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She says screeners refused to give her paperwork or documentation of her violation, documentation of the pending fine, or a copy of the photograph of the knife.

"They said 'no' and they said it's a national security issue. And I said what about my constitutional rights? And they said 'not at this point ... you don't have any'."
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http://www.komotv.com/news/archive/4153866.html
 
This country is totally fucked. I was reading Vanity Fair of all things (the one with Bruce Willis on the cover) and there an op-ed thats pretty enlightening about George and how we're just about fascist and really going to have to fix it next go round.
 
Wait - you have to pay for something accidental like this? That's pretty fucked up... :gagh:

Sure, take her knive away, that's to be expected - but fine her 500 bucks? WTF?
 
I remember back in 99, flying back from Frankfurt to the states, carrying a pocket knife I bought in Switzerland through Frankfurt International, which, then at the time was the only airport I'd ever been in that had security like we do here in the states now. And I still have the Swiss Army Knife.
 
Well the whole idiotic airport security B.S. was passed by both parties. It was the democrats who called for the screeners to be made federal employees.

But this is just a part of the overkill from feel good legislation. It's the same as when a boy in kindergarden gets expelled for pointing a chicken nugget at a teacher and then gets expelled under zero tolerance rules.

:roll:
 
Was that the old film Airplane! where they stopped to hassle some old grandma while terrorists where carrying granade launchers through security?

:meh:

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Nearly the same thing happened to me.

I changed my mind about checking in a bag. I decided to carry it on at the last minute.
I had forgotten that I put my pocket knife in it.
This was back then they first started the whole overdone security thing.
1 1/2 hours, pictures, questions, they took the knife (never saw it again) and let me get on the plane.
Oh, and I had to pay $250.
I'm sure that today, I would be treated a whole lot worse.
 
This is fucked. I carry a Swiss Army knife on my keychain--little, harmless thing. It's more likely to fold shut on your hand and cut you than be useful as a weapon. But definitely not something you can bring on a plane now.

Well one day I was flying and went through security. As I was putting on my belt and filling my pockets again, I realized that I'd forgotten to remove the knife from the keychain.

At that point I decided the best thing to do was just shut up, keep it in my pocket, and be sure to check it for the return trip--for just this sort of reason.
 
Airport security is both perverse (as illustrated in this account) and fraudulent. What makes people safer on planes is an awareness of hijacking results. Nobody with box cutters is getting control of a plane again, ever.
 
guldulac said:
Airport security is both perverse (as illustrated in this account) and fraudulent. What makes people safer on planes is an awareness of hijacking results. Nobody with box cutters is getting control of a plane again, ever.
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Exactly.
 
My ex once had to throw out a tiny protective can of mace she had on her keyring because we forgot it was there, but that was pre-911. Afterward they'd have probably subjected her to a cavity search, which on reflection doesn't strike me as particularly troublesome.

However, why didn't grandma just use plastic knives for making sandwiches? They're a buck, for crying out loud, and you get 20 of them. Don't tell me they spread easier with metal, I've made sammiches outta folded paper covered with scotch tape before. Poor people gotta improvise...
 
You know, I fly quite a bit and prior to flying I check the TSA website and just follow the rules. I've never, ever had a problem with checked or carry-on bags or my person in general. I usually find that I could have gotten away with more than I allowed myself but who cares, less hassle for me.

That being said, if it was just a stupid little knife then she didn't need to pack it. We're not getting her whole story, I guarantee it.
 
Terrorist no, but why are the knives so important? It's ridiculous, I don't travel with my owns knives, is she a chef? I mean seriously.
 
If you bring a weapon on to a plane, you're evil. You're up to no good.

If you're evil, you're a terrorist.

If you're a terrorist, you have no constitutional rights.

It's very clearfully cut. Terrorists have no rights, and the terrorists are everywhere. 9/11 was only the start. We have to do everything we can in order to ensure our free way of life can survive the evil murderers. We will deprive terrorists of the rights we grant which they choose to misuse. In my line of work, you have to repeat things over and over to people before they sink in.
 
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