What would you do if you came into a good amount of money.

Volpone

Zombie Hunter

Volpone

Zombie Hunter
As I get closer to retirement, I should learn how to "ladder" CDs. This is a much more conservative technique people like my Dad did but it protects money you'll be needing from fluctuations while maximizing interest. Generally speaking (and that's all I can do because I really haven't studied it yet) Certificates of Deposit (CDs) that have longer maturity dates pay more interest (bonds are this way too, but I understand bonds even less). The downside is, there are significant penalties if you cash them in before their maturity date. So you figure out how much you'll need in, say, 1 month and put that much in a 1 month CD. Then how much you'll in 3 months, 6 months, a year, etc. and put enough money in each CD so that when it matures you'll have enough for until the next CD matures. Once you've got your "ladder" built to whatever the max term on a CD is (the longest term you can buy), you just keep putting that much in max term CDs because every month a new max term CD is going to mature so you get the highest possible interest a CD will pay while still getting fresh liquid cash every month. If you don't spend as much as you expected, you can put it back into the next CD.
 

jack

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I did that back when they were paying 17%. But it's no longer like that these days.
 

jack

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I agree with most everything in that article. Still have a buy in SPY if it dips to 3800 which its supposed to.
 

jack

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I think I asked this earlier but. I have about 11k to start with. Should I make a "basket" or diversify? SPY is tied to the s&p which in turn is tied to the dow. Whole hog? I m a little gunshy because of the volatility
 

Volpone

Zombie Hunter
[does some cursory research on "SPY" to confirm understanding] By buying an Exchange Traded Fund linked to the S&P 500, you're getting diversification. If the S&P 500 has a good day, you have a good day. If the S&P 500 has a bad day, you have a bad day. But because, over time, it will have more good days than bad days (and "over time" I mean letting money set for 12 years-ish--enough to ride out a bear market) and because, with Dollar Cost Averaging, you're buying more shares on the "bad days" and less on the "good days," you should do quite well with it.

The way the S&P 500 works is, it has a "basket" of stocks. Say that it had Sears as an index stock back in 2005. Or Circuit City. When Sears or Circuit City started falling on tough times, it would've been dropped from the S&P 500 and they'd pick a new index stock, say Amazon or Tesla. And SPY would sell of its shares of Sears to buy Amazon shares. And your shares of SPY would get you those percentages. That's the beauty of buying an index fund. You get your diversification without having to do the work yourself. Or pay someone who probably isn't as smart as Warren Buffet to try top pick winners. When I was young I tried doing it myself. I thought McDonald's and Pepsi were good bets because even in bad times people eat junk food. I thought Zenith was good because it was the last American TV company. I got shares of Carolco Pictures for various reasons. It wasn't a very good way to diversify. If I'd just wrote a check for $X every X days to my Vanguard mutual fund, I'd have done far better than I did in my early investing days. But that wasn't as sexy to my 20something brain. Investing isn't sexy. It's a machine. Build a good money machine, plug it in, and let it run.

It can be scary. I had money in the stock market on Black Monday in 1987. Don't have the exact numbers handy, but in 1982 the NYSE was at 776 and by 1987 it had got up to 2722. Then in October it crashed to around 1730 in a day. I thought I was doomed. Wanted to sell and cut my losses. Didn't. Of course today the NYSE is at 33,213. No, that's not a typo. And I'm not comparing apples to oranges. Between 1982 and 2022, the Dow went from 776 to 33,213. Someone else can do the math, but if you buy and hold, I'd say that's a pretty nice little return on your investment. Just don't freak out and sell during a slump. Yes, that's easier said than done. My Darden restaurant shares didn't slump that badly or that long during the 'rona. And I was pretty sure they'd recover (that's the risk of individual stocks as opposed to funds. A fund will almost never fail, there was a chance that Darden Restaurants would go under during the 'rona) but it was still rough, watching the stock go down every month. And buying more shares every month. But now those fire-sale shares are worth lots more than I paid for them. YMMV.
 

jack

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That's what I thought too. Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to have some fun on monday.
 

jack

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Looks like S&P is gonna crater this week. My 3800 buy order went through about an hour ago. When I last posted about this it was at 4400. Looks like it may go as low as 3400 before this dip is through.

I bought 5k at 3800 and will be buying 100 a week going forward. If history is any lesson it should easily get to 5000.
 

jack

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Fucking stock market has been sucking ass.

Yeah for sure. I was waiting for the dip. I think S&P will crater to 3400, but it's a guessing game at this point. Inflation is spooking the markets big time.

Bitcoin is "down" to 24,000. People must be losing their shit.
 

Volpone

Zombie Hunter
Yup. Good time to buy if you can afford it--and you don't think Biden will manage to start WWIII.
 

jack

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Its dropping today even ;)
 

jack

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Looks like a 25k Dow after the upcoming fed announcement. I'm going to hold off for a bit and see what happens.

Thank god I never got into crypto
 

jack

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Looks like the fed is going to bump interest rates .75%.

That should provoke a rally
 

Volpone

Zombie Hunter
Classically, raising interest rates lowers stock investment. When interest rates go up, bonds become more attractive. When rates go down, stocks become more attractive. For my money, the return on bonds* has never been enough to justify them, but maybe as we're getting back to Carter-style stagflation...who knows?

*Because if you're buying US government bonds, the risk is so low that they don't have to offer as much return to get buyers.
 

Oerdin

Active Member
I was going over the legal documents for the distribution of the trust and it is kind of shocking that my older sister wants to charge a 1% fee for being the trustee (with her and I being the beneficiaries). That doesn't sound like much but when we are talking seven digit sums that adds up. We paid for lawyers who did most of the work too, yes, my sister did do some work, but this fee seems a bit excessive.

Maybe it is a standard fee set by the state though. I will have to check in on that.
 

jack

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I love coming into money. My wife says she hates it when i make it all sticky.
 

Volpone

Zombie Hunter
It does not sound out of line, although it's been awhile since I handled my Mom's estate. And I've done my best to wipe all that from my memory.
 

rancidmilko

I came for the porn
Sup Oerdin!

First, I'd wipe that cum from the money and then spend it. Why would I come into money? Isn't that what women and socks are for?

I'd probably buy a drone to spray shit and piss on the commies like they did in my state capital's today

 
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