You know what I really like in my comic books?

SAUSAGEMAN

Registered User
Dozens of pages of Buffy and Angel having sex.
Oral, weightless.
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From behind.
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In space.
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In space, from behind.
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THANKS, BUFFY COMIC BOOK
 

Eggs Mayonnaise

All In With The Nuts
Sooooo, when did they learn how to fly?
 

Yub

Anachrophobic
They've got superpowers now, thanks to some order of nature mystical mumbo jumbo.
 

Eggs Mayonnaise

All In With The Nuts
Ah. Well, glad I didn't waste my money then.
 

CaptainWacky

I want to smell dark matter
Okay I just read this latest issue today...

What the fuck? I can't decide if it's the best or worst thing ever. Because it can't be anything in between. I'm not really sure I totally followed Giles' narration. It sounded impressive but I think it comes down to...Buffy and Angel are the next evolution of life and the rest of us will die out, oh, and all the anciest demons and magicks are back somehow? Or something?

You've got to respect an issue called "THEM FUCKING" a little bit at least.

I'm not really a fan of the "we're not really in charge of what's happening and it's going to happen anyway so we have to go with it even if that means me (Angel) turning into a super villain except I wasn't really or was I ah who cares let's have sex" approach, I don't thik. But I'm sure eventually Buffy and Angel will have to make decisions for themselves and take control of their own destiny again. RIGHT?

At least it wasn't boring!

Willow: Twilight is Angel?
Xander: Twilight is Angel?
Dawn: Ben is Glory?
 

SAUSAGEMAN

Registered User
What the fuck? I can't decide if it's the best or worst thing ever. Because it can't be anything in between. I'm not really sure I totally followed Giles' narration. It sounded impressive but I think it comes down to...Buffy and Angel are the next evolution of life and the rest of us will die out, oh, and all the anciest demons and magicks are back somehow? Or something?
I thought they like went back in time to Eden Twilight to become some kind of half-demon Adam and Eve who would populate Earth instead of humans.
Or something?
 

Tisiphone

Elitist Redheaded Trollop
Is Willow still a lesbian?
 

Yub

Anachrophobic
I think Angel is all whacked in the head thanks to this too, because this flies directly in the face of his character. If he's happy he should have fanged out by now as Angelus.
 

CaptainWacky

I want to smell dark matter
Brad Meltzer interview http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25656

You know, I think the easiest response to this issue is, "Wow. Look at all the sex. Isn't that self-indulgeant and easy?" In reality, this is the hardest issue I've ever written of any comic book. And it's not just because "Oh, how could we possibly show sex?" We show murder in every single issue and violence and all these horrible things, yet when we take something beautiful we all turn into Puritans...but that's too easy a riff to jump on, so I don't want to jump on all that. What I'm saying is that it's hard to write something like this because you want to handle a subject like this sensibly – and not because of a prude issue, but because you don't want to do it as a stunt. You want to do it to fit the storytelling.

And the truth was, it came from the storytelling. Full credit to Joss, we were talking about this issue, and we knew there was going to be sex. We talked about it, and I'd already seen the one where the panties are on the floor and the bra's just behind it and you know exactly what's happening off panel. Then you see them in bed, and it's up to you to complete it in your own mind. We've also seen the one where you come on right before it, kind of cheat it and cut to right after it. And Joss said, "Why do we have to cheat it? Why can't we just show it?" It was one of those moments where I went, "Okay. Are you sure?" But that's bravery. It's to try what we haven't tried, and I love the fact that he's willing to take the risk and say, "You know what, Brad? Try it."

I had to take some risks and find out what his boundaries were, and there's nothing more socially awkward than talking with someone about exactly what position they can and can't be doing it in and where there parts can be. And then you invariably have to start talking about your own sex life and what you think is cool and doable and not. Believe me, it starts turning your conversation into a third grade cafeteria talk where you're all giggles and blushing red. But the real place where it came from was "We haven't tried it in this medium, so let's try it." I love standing on the edge of that trapeze and going for it. I think the point of pushing any story medium is trying to do something no one's done before.

So we started with that: "Let's see if we can show everything." And all I can say is that of the "nude scenes" in the book, there are far, far more graphic pages drawn than what you see. We had to look at them and go, "Are we okay with this?" because not all of our levels are set to the same baseline. It was wild to try and find the right place, and the one thing we always said for this was "There's a fine line between sexy and hardcore porn." We had a discussion where we were sending in what movies turned us on and what scenes turned us on and what we were going for whether it was "Y tu mamá también" or some single shot from a movie from the '80s that Rebecca DeMornay was starring in, say, if I were talking about myself.

But it was really difficult to find that baseline, and I think what Georges came out with was one of those things where if you look at the script, it'll make you blush for sure, but all the execution was on his shoulders. He was the one who actually hit it to the fences. This was visuals unlike anything he'd done before.

Is one of the things he says in it.
 

Fuddlemiff

Is this real life?
He referenced Y tu mamá también in a discussion about a Buffy comic, leave the man alone.
 

Eggs Mayonnaise

All In With The Nuts

CaptainWacky

I want to smell dark matter
Dawn and Mecha Dawn should team up to fight monsters.
 

Tisiphone

Elitist Redheaded Trollop
^I wanted a little more of their threesome, though. But yea, awesome movie.

And I want her tits for myself. Perfect.
 
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