Elon Musk Buys Twitter

jack

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Wrong. So wrong you must be deliberately lying. BLM and Antifa are both communist front groups and the routinely rioted together. That is just a fact. They are like the left and right hands on one body.

LOL Antifa doesn't exist. It's an idea. If it isn't, name me the board of directors and where their HQ is located. i'm curious to know about that. I'm neither wrong nor lying. It's the far right that's done this lazy labeling and the echo chamber does just what it's supposed to. For example. Did the dems "steal" the 2020 election? Is Biden NOT the duly and fairly elected president? Was the election one of the more secure ever? Let's test my idea out.
 

Oerdin

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What a gaslight. Every single cell has leadership, has membership, has levels of membership, they screen potential new members and have designated jobs while at riots. These are all facts even if you want to lie and deny.
 

jack

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Complete BULLSHIT. You clearly are a far rightie sheep talking like that. Your comments are not based in facts but in bias and hate.

Prove antifa exists as an organization (the way BLM actually is) or shut the fuck up about it.

BTW 56 percent of americans overall are involved with or have participated in demonstrations connected to the organization known as BLM (that would be a majority of the population) and less than 4% identify as "marxists" or communists. The rest are pissed off people sick of racists like you, spreading hate and disinformation like it's truth.

I bet you have no idea what a marxist even is, even though you throw the word around perjoratively as if you do.
 

Oerdin

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Complete BULLSHIT. You clearly are a far rightie sheep talking like that. Your comments are not based in facts but in bias and hate.

Prove antifa exists as an organization (the way BLM actually is) or shut the fuck up about it.

BTW 56 percent of americans overall are involved with or have participated in demonstrations connected to the organization known as BLM (that would be a majority of the population) and less than 4% identify as "marxists" or communists. The rest are pissed off people sick of racists like you, spreading hate and disinformation like it's truth.

I bet you have no idea what a marxist even is, even though you throw the word around perjoratively as if you do.

As has been documented over and over every cell is an organization with membership, a vetting process, an indoctrination process, designated jobs/roles, etc... You can continue lying and denying but I doubt anyone who looks into it is fooled by your nonsense lies. BYW the founders of BLM admitted they were trained Marxists, much of the "donated funds", at least not the portion which was illegally stolen by those same self declared Marxist founders, was resonated to communist front groups including to buy a Mansion for the Canadian Communist Party.

That the leadership and founders were all self declared communists is simply a fact.
 

jack

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LOL Except I asked you to define antifa as an organization not BLM.

The two are not related and now you're deflecting.

Try again. Google is your friend and will prove my point (since you quoted google verbatim for the BLM def which I already knew.;)
 
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jack

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I have to say, using Trump and Kanye West as examples of how twitter is now a "free speech" platform speaks for itself.

If you're racist and embrace insurrection as political theater, I guess that fits your rather narrow worldview.

Not to mention recent RNC quotes that reference George Washington which are fake.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...A14AMYh?cvid=ebc93b9acc8b443d8040180624698589

It's not surprising that the far right would post such tripe to being with...whats more interesting is the total lack of moderation to truth or facts. Free speech doesn't include hate speech or the "right" to tell lies.

Give it a fucking rest. Twitter is a free speech platform like antifa is a real organization just like BLM.
 
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jack

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Half of Twitter's top 100 advertisers have stopped advertising on the platform in recent weeks as a result of "controversies" and "warnings from media buyers." The list includes Meta, Coca-Cola and Kellogg's, according to a report by Media Matters.


Four industry figures told the Financial Times that in recent weeks agencies have not little communication with Twitter's ads business team because so few staff were left following mass layoffs.

Twitter's ad systems have become bug-ridden, according to some media buyers, making it nearly impossible to launch campaigns.

"It is quite unique. The turmoil, the damage, nothing of this magnitude has happened before. Never," a big four advertising agency executive told the FT.

Derrick Johnson, the president of civil rights organization the NAACP, last week urged advertisers to stop using Twitter because of Musk's decision to reinstate former US president Donald Trump's account.

"Any advertiser still funding Twitter should immediately pause all advertising now," Johnson tweeted.

The NAACP chief also hit out at Musk's use of a "garbage poll" to determine if he should let Trump return.
 

jack

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I bet you think the NAACP is a communist organization, like you call BLM.

Still waiting on that antifa CEO and main headquarters info.
 

Oerdin

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LOL Except I asked you to define antifa as an organization not BLM.

The two are not related and now you're deflecting.

Try again. Google is your friend and will prove my point (since you quoted google verbatim for the BLM def which I already knew.;)

That Antifa cells are all organisation's has been explained to you 3-4 times already. So the question is are you stupid or just lying?
 

jack

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That Antifa cells are all organisation's has been explained to you 3-4 times already. So the question is are you stupid or just lying?
The answer to that question is are you going to stop deflecting and answer the question or do you just really not know the answer and are speaking from far right ignorance?

Either way, you seem to not realize that antifa is not an organization. There aren't "cells" that are connected to each other. If so, who's the puppet master "pulling the strings" Nothing has been explained to me three or four times. If you're ignorant about the ideology, admit it (or don't) you far right fascists are so full of it you have no concept of truth or reality if it doesn't fit into your narrow world view.

Which is it? I'm about done with this back and forth.
 

jack

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Never mind. I'll just leave this here.

5 Things Antifa isn't

1.

Antifa is a single organization.​

On May 31, President Trump tweeted, “The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization.” Attorney General William P. Barr echoed his sentiments by arguing that antifa is “a revolutionary group that is interested in some form of socialism.” Right-wing figure Chuck Callesto even claimed that Sen. Rand Paul intended to “SUBPOENA ANTIFA plane records, hotel records, all travel records & all funding.”

But Trump cannot designate “ANTIFA” as a terrorist organization because antifa is not an organization. Rather, it is a politics of revolutionary opposition to the far right. There are antifa groups, such as Rose City Antifa in Portland and NYC Antifa, just as there are feminist groups, such as Code Pink. But neither antifa nor feminism is itself an organization. You cannot subpoena an idea or a movement. That’s not to say that antifa doesn’t exist, of course. Antifa is “very real,” as Rep. Jim Jordan has argued, but not in the monolithic, hierarchical way in which he and many other Americans are accustomed to thinking of political associations.

2.

Antifa masterminds violence at Black Lives Matter protests.​

Police stations were burned, squad cars were destroyed, and property was damaged across the country after the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis in May. Days later, Trump was quick to blame the violence on “ANTIFA and the Radical Left.” The president also promoted a far-right conspiracy theory that a 75-year-old racial justice protester in Buffalo who was shoved to the ground by police, fracturing his skull, “could be an ANTIFA provocateur.” Rudolph W. Giuliani concurred, claiming that “antifa sprang into action and in a flash hijacked the protests into vicious, brutal riots.”

But neither the Justice Department, the FBI nor the press have found evidence to corroborate the grandiose allegation that the most widespread and significant political upheaval this country has seen in half a century was masterminded by one shadowy organization. Not even in Portland. Antifa groups are simply not numerous enough, nor their memberships large enough, nor their politics influential enough to have achieved such massive destruction. Militant anti-fascist groups heavily vet potential members to prevent infiltration from law enforcement or the far right. Some don’t open their ranks to new members at all. Significant investments of time and energy are expected. Such high barriers to entry necessarily keep numbers low.

3.

Antifa is affiliated with the Democratic Party.​

In August, a fake antifa website began to redirect users to Joe Biden’s campaign site. Though it was clearly a ploy to associate the Democratic Party with antifa, right wingers seized upon the apparent conspiracy. Speaking about the Democrats that same day, Trump claimed that “in my book, it’s virtually part of their campaign, antifa.” According to Ann Coulter, the Democrats are “the Antifa Party.” And columnists have argued that “antifa riots may be part of [a] Democrat power grab” or even that “antifa is the militant wing of the Democratic Party.”

Not only is there no evidence to support such allegations — which are more of an effort to associate liberalism with lawlessness than anything else — but Democratic leaders have routinely condemned antifa and political violence more broadly. For example, in 2017 Nancy Pelosi denounced “the violent actions of people calling themselves antifa” after destructive protests against right-wing commentator Milo Yiannopoulos in Berkeley. When a reporter recently asked Joe Biden, “Do you condemn antifa?,” he responded, “Yes, I do.”

Nor is there any antifa love affair with the Democrats. The vast majority of antifa militants are radical anti-capitalists who oppose the Democratic Party. Some may hold their noses and vote for Biden in November, but many are anarchists who don’t vote at all.

4.

Antifa is funded by liberal financiers like George Soros.​

Right-wing conspiracy theorists have alleged that egalitarian protest movements, such as Occupy Wall Street or the women’s marches, have been secretly funded for many years by liberal financiers like George Soros. Trump is among those who have accused Soros of funding antifa, while other conservatives, such as Rep. Ken Buck, have dog-whistled this anti-Semitic trope by asking in more general terms “who is funding these violent riots.” Similarly, Rand Paul asked, after being confronted by protesters in D.C.: “Who paid for their hotel rooms? Who flew them in?”

There is no evidence that Soros or any other 1 percenter is bankrolling antifa groups. Receiving financial support from a billionaire would be anathema to their anti-capitalist politics. Like most anarchist, anti-authoritarian or radical groups, antifa organizations don’t have much money at their disposal. What they do have generally comes from members or occasional solidarity fundraisers. Unlike political parties, unions or nongovernmental organizations, they don’t require significant funds. The International Anti-Fascist Defense Fund collects small donations primarily for legal and medical support, but that hardly constitutes the moneyed boogeyman that Republicans have conjured.

Antifascists are the 'real fascists.'​

Recently Barr described antifa as deploying “fascistic” tactics, and Donald Trump Jr. characterized the movement as having moved “to the book burning phase.” The Internet is awash with articles about how “antifa are the real fascists,” as the Spectator’s Toby Young put it, or the “brownshirts” of the Democratic Party, in radio host Michael Savage’s words. After Charlottesville, Trump called antifascists the “alt-left,” a term that did not stick. These portrayals are often supported by references to antifascists’ disruption of the events of their (far-right) political opponents — a strategy famously deployed by fascists.

Indeed, antifascists and fascists have one thing in common: an illiberal disdain for the confines of mainstream politics. In every other way they are worlds apart. As opposed to their far-right adversaries, antifascists are feminist, anti-racist, anti-capitalists who seek to abolish prisons and police. Comparing antifascists to fascists only makes a bit of sense if one divorces the tactics from the underlying views that animate them. Such comparisons stem from the misguided horseshoe theory: that ultimately political extremes meet. But fascists are the real fascists because they pursue a fascist political agenda.
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jack

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So then, lets get back to talking about how Twitter isn't really a free speech platform at all. I won't be discussing antifa or BLM in any context in this thread going forward, because it isn't germane to the Twitter discussion.
 

jack

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jack

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The list of brands pulling ads from Elon Musk's Twitter appears to grow.

Half of Twitter's top 100 advertisers have halted spending on the platform since Musk took over the company at the end of October, according to a report by liberal watchdog group Media Matters for America published last week.

The 50 brands, the report said, have spent nearly $2 billion in advertising on the platform since 2020 and more than $750 million in 2022 alone as of Nov. 21.

Seven additional advertisers, who have spent more than $255 million on Twitter ads since 2020, have significantly slowed advertising to almost nothing, according to the report.

Twitter did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

What brands have stopped advertising on Twitter?

Some companies such as Chevrolet, Chipotle Mexican Grill, Ford, Jeep and Merck have issued statements or have been reported as pausing Twitter ads and confirmed doing so, the report said.

The majority of advertisers on the list, however, have stopped spending on the platform for "significant period of time following direct outreach, controversies, and warnings from media buyers," according to a Media Matters analysis of data from ad analytics firm Pathmatics.

An analysis by the Washington Post found more than a third of Twitter's top advertisers have not advertised on the platform in the two weeks before Nov. 22. Jeep and Mars didn't have advertisements on the site since at least Nov. 7 as of last week, the Post reported.

General Motors was among the first companies that announced it was pausing advertising on Twitter shortly after Musk closed the $44 billion deal to buy the social media platform. Volkswagen Group also recommended its brands suspend advertising.

General Mills confirmed earlier this month it has paused its Twitter ads.

"We have paused advertising on Twitter," General Mills tweeted. "As always, we will continue to monitor this new direction and evaluate our marketing spend"
 

Oerdin

Active Member
There is no question that the Democratic Party is having a tantrum and waging a pressure campaign because they are upset that the playing field is now level instead of rigged in their favor. It will not last.
 

Oerdin

Active Member
So Elon says he is going to disclose all internal messages about the successful big tech effort to effect election outcomes by censoring information about the Biden family's criminal misconduct. Democrats are now up in arms demanding Twitter get removed from Apple store and Google's App Store.

Dems really want to hide their corruption. The corrupt snakes are over reaching and this will cause theor downfall.
 

Oerdin

Active Member
Despite the claims of lying democrats the number of hare speech impressions on Twitter are way down since Elon purchased it, usage is at record highs, while interactions are also at record highs. None of the rules have been changed yet but rules are actually being enforced equally with leftist offenders getting the same punishments as everyone else. Dems keep screaming and lying but the number of new users signing up per day is also at all time highs.



Elon also went imto his Twitter 2.0 vision which will really turn Twitter into a do everything app which takes on multiple competitors in different niches all at the same time. Watchthe video.
 

jack

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Companies, including General Motors, United Airlines and General Mills, temporarily halted buying ads on the platform. Oreo maker Mondelez also announced that it was pulling company ads from Twitter over concerns about hate speech.

Earlier this month, Musk admitted that Twitter has faced a "massive drop in revenue" because of "activist groups pressuring advertisers."

"Twitter has had a massive drop in revenue due to activist groups pressuring advertisers, even though nothing has changed with content moderation, and we did everything we could to appease the activists," Musk previously tweeted. "Extremely messed up! They're trying to destroy free speech in America."
 
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