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Americans celebrating St. Patricks Day

Good point, Cassie. If there's one thing Americans do NOT feel, it is culturally inferior.

Your post slipped in between mine and fuddlemiff's I THINK YOU KNOW THAT ALREADY. I DON'T KNOW.

Even though I have Irish ancestors, I've never celebrated St Patrick's day. I'm sure I've been to a few parties, but we'd have partied anyway. I've also never felt culturally homogenized.. or even worried about having a distinct culture. We have the culture our ancestors brought to America, but of course that's changed over the centuries.
 
^ we've always celebrated the day - but maybe it's different with smaller towns where we actually have musicians playing at regular Ceilidhs.
The traditional songs are still very much sung in the East Coast as well...maybe the isolation (Canadian towns are often few and far apart if you look at the grand scheme of the very large country that it is) of the pockets of peeps descended from Scotland and Ireland keeps those trads alive, I don't know. But I did sing Molly Malone and The Galway Races meself and I had a few toasts t'oid sod (without getting puking drunk either) so there you go.
 
Maybe it's just us Southerners who don't celebrate that stuff much.
 
Americans + Ireland

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Sorry, I had to. :D
 
I remember when I first joined TrekBBS someone had started a thread title "Fair Haven: CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP" on the Voyager board (must have just aired for the first time?) It always stuck with me.
 
I always remember it because it was the first time I "gave up on Star Trek."

It had been building for a while with Voyager being pretty shitty but I had still faithfully been buying the videos every month as they were release so many years I kept with it.

Then Fair Haven happened and after watching it and being nothing short of disgusted with the direction that Trek had sunk to I quit buying any more Voyager and stopped watching the show for about 8 months.

I eventually came back to it after that cooling off period and finished the series through more of an OCD necessity but things would never be the same :(
 
http://www.cynicscorner.org/voy_6/voy_611.html

THE BOTTOM LINE: An exercise in masturbation, in more ways than one.
CYNICS CORNER RATING: 3.0 (F-)

DECEPTION OF THE WEEK: By now we've all gotten used to the ridiculous promos that UPN creates for Voyager, which often have a tenuous connection at best to the content of the episodes they promote. The promo for this show is no different, except to the extent that, as bad as the "Bermuda triangle in space" premise is, the actual content of the show is so much worse. The show staggers between themes, from trying to be dead-serious about Janeway's "moral dilemma" (more below), to the obligatory "sci-fi threat," to idiotic slapstick, such as the town lout, inevitably named Seamus, ogling Seven or the amateurish "space-sickness" scene with Tuvok. None of these concepts are worthwhile to begin with, and the fact that they seem to be assembled at random makes the sum even less than its parts.

LAUGH LINE OF THE WEEK: Chakotay: "I wasn't thinking anything." That's probably the most believable part of the show...

LAUGH LINE OF THE WEEK RUNNERUP: Janeway on the Fair Haven simulation: "Everything is authentic." Right, as if that town bore any resemblance at all to a real nineteenth century Irish village. In fact, it's so fake that one might almost suspect that the writers were deliberately making some kind of statement about the warped notion of history that our heroes possess, if one didn't know for a fact that the writers don't deserve anywhere near that much credit. About the only good thing to say is that the stereotyping didn't get too out of hand, not as bad as, say, Next Generation's "Up the Long Ladder."

CONTRIVANCE OF THE WEEK: I was going to try to figure out speeds, distances, sizes, etc. to decide whether or not Voyager should have been able to outrun, fly around, or otherwise evade the neutron wave (or whatever the hell it was), but there's little point in that. In truth perhaps the biggest contrivance is the notion that, with the ship surrounded by anomalous energy, particles, and other hoohah, Starfleet personnel would go anywhere near a holodeck, which tend to react rather badly to such things. Still, amazingly, the holodeck actually functioned normally. Of course for Voyager's holodecks, "normal" apparently means that files can't be backed up, no "ScanDisk" feature to repair files when the system has been improperly shut down is supported, and a proper shutdown can no longer be done by simply shouting "Computer, end program" into a comm-link.

CROSS-PROMOTION OF THE WEEK: I assume the melee in the holodeck was dropped into this episode as part of some ploy on UPN's part to attract the "WWF Smackdown!" demographic. That may explain why the brawl, in which several crew members are injured, doesn't make any sense at all. Harry and Tom aren't exactly the sharpest pencils around but they should be familiar with the phrase "Computer, freeze program." Even The Doctor, who of all people should know better, just stands around yelling at the combatants to stop.

DUMBEST HARRY KIM MOMENT OF THE WEEK: In honor of what may become a regular feature here at CCI, I'll let you decide:

With the ship and crew facing imminent destruction, Kim questions Janeway's orders because of the risk to the Fair Haven simulation.
Kim inexplicably comes to a simulation of Nineteenth Century Ireland dressed like a 1950's era carnival barker.
TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT OF THE WEEK: Because the episode skirts the issue, we can't be 100% sure that Janeway had sexual relations with that hologram, but just for the sake of argument, let's say she did, and follow this line of logic:

A holodeck is really just a single room.
Two people in different parts of a simulation only seem to be in different places because of holographic projections.
Two people "across town" from one another in the Fair Haven simulation are actually within feet of one another.
Janeway institutes an "open-door" policy on the holodeck, which results in lots of crew members visiting the Fair Haven simulation.
Janeway has sex in the Fair Haven simulation.

Get the picture? I certainly hope not...

MORAL DILEMMA OF THE WEEK: The whole "problem" of loving a hologram is a crock, and the writers making this out to be a huge quandary on Janeway's part is laughable, as they get to grease the fantasies of the hardcore (no pun intended) Janeway fans, while simultaneously acting as though a great issue is being addressed. But it's so banal that, without seeing this episode, I would simply assume that given Janeway's situation, the 24th century's laissez-faire attitude towards sexuality, and the technology available, she would be unabashedly be "using the holodeck" when she needed it. This episode makes her out to be more hung up on sex than the Victorians, and smirking cretins like Chakotay make one wonder whether the 24th century is as advanced as it looks.


Previous: "Pathfinder"
Next: "Blink of an Eye" NEXT WEEK: Voyager encounters a world where time moves more quickly; Voyager viewers find time moving more slowly
 
Blink of an Eye was actually pretty good.
 
Oh, lol.. all Americans judged by an episode of Voyager. We'll never live that down.
 
Well, we let people like Braga vote and drive a car. Serves us right!
 
Maybe if we made crappy Trek a felony we wouldn't have to worry about that!
 
They actually had two episodes set in Fairhaven in the same season. That's just insane.
 
Yeah Damar, what kind of people would give those orders?
 
I'd like to see you come to Fair Haven and say that!
 
I demand to see cassie's green panties!!!
 
ARGH, TOO MANY GOOD POSTS TO KARMA
 
I think to be truly Irish on St. Paddy's day, you need to do most (if not all) of the following.

1. Say "top 'o the mornin' to ya" to EVERYONE. Even if it's night time. Start early.
2. Walk into McDonalds and ask if they'll make your Shamrock Shake with a little whiskey.
3. When they say 'no', threaten to fight the manager. Walk out screaming about how racist their establishment is.
4. To release the anger, punch the first non-Irish guy you see wearing green. Tell him that's how Irishmen say hello. When you offer to let him take a swing at you, duck and punch him again.
5. Tell a lie and blame it on the blarney stone. (suggestion: claim to know Bono)
6. Tell the truth in place of a lie and blame it on the blarney stone. (suggestion: Tell a hot girl that you would very much like to show her your Irish jig.)
7. Smoke some weed, claiming that if it's green it's Irish and therefore must be consumed.
8. Eat some fucking po-ta-toes!
9. Drink some single malt Irish whiskey.
10. Kiss a redhead.
11. Chase the whiskey with a good Irish stout.
12. Try to fuck the redhead.
13. Kick an Englishman in the balls and shout ERIN GO BRAGH!
14. Run around while only wearing the Irish flag. Let that be your green attire for the rest of the day.
15. Punch the first non-Irish guy you see drinking a non-Irish beverage and wearing green. Call him a poser.
16. Puke and shout ERIN GO BRRRAAAAAAGGHHHHHHH!
17. Eat some more fucking po-ta-toes!
18. If you're Anglo-Irish, fake the accent while slurring your words. Nobody will know the difference.
19. Call your mother a saint.
20. Call your mother and tell her she's a saint.
21. Cry.
22. Drink some more single malt Irish whiskey.
23. Shoot some Heroin. It helps with the hangover.
24. Pass out.

For the Girls.

1. Get drunk
2. Put out.
 
It's not a St. Patrick's day party unless you've hired a midget, dressed as a leprechaun. You furthermore must allow him to get drunk--along with everyone else--and at some point in the night you beat him to make him tell you where his pot of gold is. :ramen:
 
Outside of Zoo's and ones kept as pets there have never been snakes in Ireland. Geographical reasons as opposed to St Patrick banashing them (which was just because snakes represent paganism)
 
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