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Anna said:
Personally, I think there's far too much importance on the issue of "loyalty" at WF between it's staff.

They want to keep their fights private, fine. But I've hear a few moderators talk about staying around a job they don't like or have grown tired of out of "loyalty to Elwood" And I'm like "What the fuck?" If you hate it that much, why not step down and let someone else who actually wants to do it take over the reigns? New blood never hurt anyone.

DW didn't say anything but his or her opinions about the situation at WF. There's nothing new about anything, no juicy secrets, no anything. And gul's been pretty adamant about this person's hiding behind a mask, and I highly doubt that gul is that much of a loser to interact that much with or about a dual he created.=/ And he's certainly not a hypocrite.
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Shut up, hypocrite.
 
See, that's the thing--and it amazes me that Storm apparently didn't see it. Shit, if anyone is playing this game for the win, it's Gul. [I'll omit the play-by-play and just hit the high points]:

The Goldeneye opening: Preemptively ban someone on the excuse that they might reveal personal information.

This caused a nice little shitstorm that went on for what, 2-3 weeks? More? And was finally starting to die down. Elwood just about had everyone (mostly) placated.

So Gul leave himself with the fig-leaf of "Well, I don't agree with the decision, but respect that it is your perogative. Still I think it sets a dangerous precedent..." [paraphrased]

That would've been it, right there. Really, the only way to stoke that fire would be if someone threatened to reveal personal information on another Wordforger.

Cue Storm. :bang: The boy takes a situation that would've rested uneasily until it eventually came up and made it come up while the matter was fresh in everyone's mind.

Yes, he was very clever. He didn't come right out and directly threaten anyone, but fuck, Goldeneye didn't even post anything and he was banned. It's pretty clear that Storm is implying that he's going to use someone's personal information against them.

So that puts Elwood in a position where he has three options (as I see it):
1) He admits that he banned Goldeneye because he doesn't like him,
2) He bans Storm because it seems likely that he will reveal personal information or
3) He comes up with some bullshit excuse for how Goldeneye not actually doing anything is more threatening than Storm spending about three days laying not-so-subtle hints that he is up to something dirty.

I don't see any other way out of the corner Storm has so cleverly painted him into to "help" him. Personally, I think the best option is Option 1. I mean it pretty much makes Tamar and all the other staff look like tools for perpetrating a hoax for however many weeks. And it make Elwood look petty and small.

Hell, maybe permabanning Storm would be the best solution. After all, he was behind the troll that started the whole mess in the first place. But I don't think that'll happen. And I'd rather it didn't. The place is boring as shit without him. (Although toward the end of his last self-imposed hiatus Liet had almost calmed down enough that you could have a rational discussion with him. Almost.)

The worst possible solution to this mess (and incidentally the one that I'll be we see) is that The Powers That Be will run some variation of "There's Nothing to See Here" or "This is Different Because We Say So" that'll only make matters worse. :cylon:
 
God-damn, that's way too many words. MarkB and Caedeus both said it better in a line. And still, for all those words, I managed to miss the punchline, which is: That if I was going to consciously try and come up with something to do to make Elwood look bad and prove Gul's point, I really don't think I could've come up with anything better than what Storm did.
 
Volpone said:
See, that's the thing--and it amazes me that Storm apparently didn't see it. Shit, if anyone is playing this game for the win, it's Gul. [I'll omit the play-by-play and just hit the high points]:

The Goldeneye opening: Preemptively ban someone on the excuse that they might reveal personal information.

This caused a nice little shitstorm that went on for what, 2-3 weeks? More? And was finally starting to die down. Elwood just about had everyone (mostly) placated.

So Gul leave himself with the fig-leaf of "Well, I don't agree with the decision, but respect that it is your perogative. Still I think it sets a dangerous precedent..." [paraphrased]

That would've been it, right there. Really, the only way to stoke that fire would be if someone threatened to reveal personal information on another Wordforger.

Cue Storm. :bang: The boy takes a situation that would've rested uneasily until it eventually came up and made it come up while the matter was fresh in everyone's mind.

Yes, he was very clever. He didn't come right out and directly threaten anyone, but fuck, Goldeneye didn't even post anything and he was banned. It's pretty clear that Storm is implying that he's going to use someone's personal information against them.

So that puts Elwood in a position where he has three options (as I see it):
1) He admits that he banned Goldeneye because he doesn't like him,
2) He bans Storm because it seems likely that he will reveal personal information or
3) He comes up with some bullshit excuse for how Goldeneye not actually doing anything is more threatening than Storm spending about three days laying not-so-subtle hints that he is up to something dirty.

I don't see any other way out of the corner Storm has so cleverly painted him into to "help" him. Personally, I think the best option is Option 1. I mean it pretty much makes Tamar and all the other staff look like tools for perpetrating a hoax for however many weeks. And it make Elwood look petty and small.

Hell, maybe permabanning Storm would be the best solution. After all, he was behind the troll that started the whole mess in the first place. But I don't think that'll happen. And I'd rather it didn't. The place is boring as shit without him. (Although toward the end of his last self-imposed hiatus Liet had almost calmed down enough that you could have a rational discussion with him. Almost.)

The worst possible solution to this mess (and incidentally the one that I'll be we see) is that The Powers That Be will run some variation of "There's Nothing to See Here" or "This is Different Because We Say So" that'll only make matters worse. :cylon:
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You have to be one of the most obsessively dull individuals on the Internet. How the fuck can mundane board politics make anyone want to post so many long, boring speeches like you?
 
Gagh said:
You have to be one of the most obsessively dull individuals on the Internet. How the fuck can mundane board politics make anyone want to post so many long, boring speeches like you?
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Oh the irony.
 
Bailey said:
Oh the irony.
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You can't blame me, if you enjoying BBS-related political dribble, over the top of page after page of spam, or cheap flames. And you certainly can't blame me, if the only thing you know about me, is the crap I post here.
 
Show me one thing in that message that Gul or anyone wouldn't have the balls to post under their own username handle?

The message isn't the troll...
 
Gagh said:
You can't blame me, if you enjoying BBS-related political dribble, over the top of page after page of spam, or cheap flames. And you certainly can't blame me, if the only thing you know about me, is the crap I post here.
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Er... how can gul be Disgruntled Wordforger? He never had A51 access.

I have been out all week, so if I'm overlooking something obvious, just tell me.
 
Eliteforge does contain members other then staff. It also doesn't contain all the staff as well.

Storm is certainly a member. And it was Storm, Evenflow, and Bear beating down Gul.

And if the rumors are true plenty of others on staff knew what was happening, knew it was wrong, and did nothing.
 
RJHJ said:
Eliteforge does contain members other then staff. It also doesn't contain all the staff as well.

Storm is certainly a member. And it was Storm, Evenflow, and Bear beating down Gul.

And if the rumors are true plenty of others on staff knew what was happening, knew it was wrong, and did nothing.
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Huh.

Since when is a core group of posters (including staff) whipping other members into a frenzy to bully someone news?

When has that happened before? I wonder?
 
Storm Rucker said:
The point was gul stabbed my friends in the back. He went after, what are to me, made men.
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What's it take to be a "made man?"

Gul has certainly been around long enough, he definately posts enough, what else do you want?

Personally I don't agree with anything the staff has done lately other than banning Crazy Monkey and confining The Listkeeper's powers to the chatroom only. I'm also of the opinion that Elwood can damn well ban anyone he wants because it's his board, I just wish he'd come out and say "I banned Goldeneye because I don't like him" and be done with it.

I just can't see what Gul did that was so wrong and offensive to you. Maybe I missed some threads or something. Honestly I don't care. Fuck it, lets just ban Packard and be done with it.
 
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