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BULLSHIT!

curiousa2z

Be patient till the last.
re 3-1 France vs. Spain

Henry should be ashamed of himself.
I am astounded that a player of his quality would take a dive like that.

Yes, very disappointed Spain is not advancing, but more disappointed in Henry's bullshit playacting.

Well, after a song and dance like that, at least if he couldn't play football tomorrow, there's always the cabaret.
 
curiousa2z said:
re 3-1 France vs. Spain

Henry should be ashamed of himself.
I am astounded that a player of his quality would take a dive like that.

Yes, very disappointed Spain is not advancing, but more disappointed in Henry's bullshit playacting.

Well, after a song and dance like that, at least if he couldn't play football tomorrow, there's always the cabaret.


It's been my understanding that taking a dive is a big part of the sport, no?
 
something potent, methinks; a Shiraz/Cabernet blend, maybe - what d'you think? - Merlot's too easy going for what we'll be facing!

I'll be a wreck after surviving whatever Ukraine/ Italy do on Friday as it is...
:D
 
you think THAT was Bullshit - the ref giving Italy that 'penalty' against Australia in the last minute was a crock, to say the least...
 
I was as surprised with that call as anyone else - as much as I love Italy, and as pleased as I was that Totti got the goal, Australia fought long and hard in this Cup - that was a wretched way to go out.
The Socceroos will be back.
 
On the news today in America they showed a semi-mocking story about male athletes who cry on the field, and they focused on Beckham and his team from the other day, and Aggassi at Wimbledon. The upshot was that soccer and tennis players are pussies.

Just thought you'd like to know why America still doesn't respect soccer. Especially when "taking dives" and feigning injury is an integral part of strategy. In "real" football and hockey, the strategy is to give the opponent a "real" injury. No faking required.
 
"real" football?
are you serious?
come back when you have an inkling of what you are talking about.
 
Did I forget to add the sly smiley? Whoops.

Soccer fans have no sense of humor. For the record, yesterday on the news there was a story of an American baseball player who is now on injured reserve due to an incident with salad tongs.

Yes, I said salad tongs. International sports have no monopoly on stupid or faked injury. In basketball we see actors all the time. The news story about crying soccer players was shown just as I said it was, and the mocking tone was theirs; after that I was just busting balls about the "real" football stuff.

The only real reason I don't care for soccer is because it's excruciatingly dull waiting for something to happen. Those guys don't take dives, they fall asleep while kicking the ball around. Games like basketball or football, every second counts right to the end. Soccer, a fella might score in the first two minutes and decide the game right there. That means another two hours of "Kick the ball and run that way. Okay, now kick it and run this way." Christ, you don't even get a zamboni to break up the monotony every period. If it weren't for the psychopaths in the stands, soccer would be thoroughly unwatchable as a televised sport.

That's why they invented Rugby. Bunch of hooligans were watching soccer and said "fuck this, I'm going down there and run into somebody with my head." Voila, new and better game invented on the spot.
 
It's just one of those things isn't it. The Yanks just can't grasp what football is all about.

Football is part of our heritage, it's part of our lives. Yanks don't care about football because they suck at it and a major part of that is because they lack the passion. If the Yanks had a passion for the game the National team of the U.S.A would be transformed through the sheer energy back home. Everything would become more vital.

The only real reason I don't care for soccer is because it's excruciatingly dull waiting for something to happen. Those guys don't take dives, they fall asleep while kicking the ball around. Games like basketball or football, every second counts right to the end. Soccer, a fella might score in the first two minutes and decide the game right there. That means another two hours of "Kick the ball and run that way. Okay, now kick it and run this way." Christ, you don't even get a zamboni to break up the monotony every period. If it weren't for the psychopaths in the stands, soccer would be thoroughly unwatchable as a televised sport.

I just don't know how to express myself and tell you how wrong you are. There is NOTHING like being in a pub in England surrounded by the crosses of St George and watching the National Team play on the World Stage. The ENTIRE country is buzzing. And EVERY SECOND counts.

Boring?!! BORING?!!


That is something that cannot be leveled at the game if you have something invested in it. With a win the country is united and you instantly identify with every stranger in the street all together under one flag and pride for England and to be English is a powerful thing as it is for other nations home pride.

Lose and the sombre cloud decends on the country like a cloak of despair and dissapointment. It's like the country has been held up and gutted.

So when you see those eleven men on the pitch representing their ENTIRE COUNTRY no matter which footablling nation they are from it's serious buisness. The importance of English football (and the same goes for so many other countries around the world) is absolute.

I don't think you can even fathom the pressure that the players are under to perform. Penalities which are the very bane of our country are one of the most nerve-racking things a player can ever be asked to do. They're ALL world class players, they can all sink a penalty under normal circumstances 95% of the time, but on the world stage with your entire country hanging on your foot connecting with the ball in a certain way at the right moment is as serious as it gets.

I've had my chest literally clench up during penalty shoot-outs. You look around a PACKED english pub, every single man, woman and child flying the colours, wearing the shirt, and it's nothing but silence and trepidation around you. It doesn't get anymore serious.

Do I expect you to understand the emotion inolved? Nah -- How could you? You have to experience it. It's a powerful thing. And yes, it's only a sport but to many of us it's a lot more than that. It's our identity as a nation and that's why when we lose it's THAT painful. And when we win it's that exciting and joyus.

So don't tell me that football is boring. From your perspective perhaps. you have no investment in it. But for many of us it's a passion that you have to live to understand. Calling the team pussies for crying when they get kicked from the World Cup after losing on penalties yet again is a clear indication that you've missed the point in spectacular fashion.


Watch this and maybe you will have an inkling of what it's all about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H3f9oTyi8s
 
Donovan said:
the strategy is to give the opponent a "real" injury. No faking required.

Real injury? Ok, go watch the match between Italy and Ukrane, where Buffon hit his head against a metal post and continued to play. Now, that's tough.
 
Or where Rooney literally fractured his ankle lost his football boot and still kept possesion against two defenders.
 
Hey, America has a sport where the entire nation is united under one flag, joyous in our visctory. We call it war.

Your key points, that soccer is best enjoyed while entirely buzzing in a crowded pub, is likely very accurate. That's the only way to enjoy tedious things, by getting blotto and yelling really loud. We do that with professional wrestling over here.

As for fracturing a foot and continuing on through the pain, big frigging deal. We had a fourteen year old girl do that a couple olympics' ago, Kerri Strug. So you're saying the toughest soccer player can be compared to a fourteen year old American girl? That sounds about right.

As for crying when getting flagged out of the big game: No game should be decided on penalties, that's true. But no game should be so boring that a penalty decides the outcome so frequently. If your team is so good, why don't we see higher scores? Like 5-6, 4-3, instead of all this 1-1, 1-nil bullshit? I mean good Lord, That'd be like two hours of unanesthetized dental surgery. You know why your heart seizes when something exciting happens? Because it happens so rarely you don't have a chance to get ready for it. Your heart isn't ready. Whereas in real football, something spectacular happens pretty much every few minutes. You have much better drinking games with real football...you actually get more than one drink if you do it for every score.
 
Donovan said:
As for crying when getting flagged out of the big game: No game should be decided on penalties, that's true. But no game should be so boring that a penalty decides the outcome so frequently. If your team is so good, why don't we see higher scores? Like 5-6, 4-3, instead of all this 1-1, 1-nil bullshit?
If it must be explained to you in intricate detail then you're just not going to get it at all. Thirty billion+ people can't be wrong.
 
Donovan said:
You have much better drinking games with real football...you actually get more than one drink if you do it for every score.
Real football? I thought you were smarter than this Donovan.
 
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