Bush Approval Rating
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BlazerBoy
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My daddy ( A self-styled upper-class southern republican, no less) told me today that we shouldn't listen to the polls about Bush, because all forward-thinking Conservatives (like my father) are looking forward to the agenda of the Republican party and the next administration.
I on the other hand, remained just as disillusioned about the entire political process as I was just before Bush's first term started.
I on the other hand, remained just as disillusioned about the entire political process as I was just before Bush's first term started.
Eggs Mayonnaise
All In With The Nuts
Truman, on his worst day, didn't have numbers that low.
Including that week where he had explosive diarrhea at that League of Women Voters Luncheon. This was where he also made the unfortunate "pull my lever" joke in his remarks, which dogged him the rest of his term.
Including that week where he had explosive diarrhea at that League of Women Voters Luncheon. This was where he also made the unfortunate "pull my lever" joke in his remarks, which dogged him the rest of his term.
Caitriona
Something Wicked
Well, there might have been President's with lower numbers, but it was before there were polls. 
These are at Nixon/Watergate levels.
I read an article [can't remember where now, nor do I have the link], that stated this was the worst Presidency in US History. That might be an exaggeration because we are living it and it feels like it is the *worst*. Historians may write it differently in 50 years, but I can't wait that long to have some scholar describe how it *wasn't* the worst Presidency in history.
These are at Nixon/Watergate levels.
I read an article [can't remember where now, nor do I have the link], that stated this was the worst Presidency in US History. That might be an exaggeration because we are living it and it feels like it is the *worst*. Historians may write it differently in 50 years, but I can't wait that long to have some scholar describe how it *wasn't* the worst Presidency in history.
jack
The Legendary Troll Kingdom
Dozens of bodies found across Baghdad
Gruesome reprisals appear to intensify after particularly bloody weekend
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Police found at least 65 bodies in Baghdad in the past 24 hours, including 15 men bound and shot in an abandoned minibus, in a gruesome wave of apparent sectarian reprisal attacks, officials said Tuesday.
The timing of the killings appeared related to the car bomb and mortar attacks in the Shiite slum of Sadr City in east Baghdad on Sunday in which 58 people died and more than 200 were wounded.
The sectarian violence marked the second wave of mass killings in Iraq since Feb. 22, when bombers destroyed an important Shiite Muslim shrine in Samarra, north of the capital.
Carnage in Baghdad
The minibus was found on the main road between two mostly Sunni neighborhoods in west Baghdad, not far from where another minibus containing 18 bodies was discovered last week.
Dozens of bodies were found in both Sunni and Shiite areas, many of them among Baghdad’s most dangerous neighborhoods, said Maj. Falah al-Mohammedawi of the Interior Ministry, which oversees police.
A number of them were recovered from Sadr City, where two car bombs and four mortar rounds shattered shops and market stalls at nightfall Sunday, killing at least 58 people and injuring more than 200 as residents shopped for food for their evening meals.
Scorched pavement, destroyed shops and burned out cars awaited Shiite residents emerging from their homes Monday in Sadr City.
The scene, although gruesome, was not what many had feared: That the deadly explosions the previous night would ignite all-out civil war.
Radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr’s refused to be provoked. With thousands of his Mahdi Army militiamen ready to fight, the anti-American leader called for calm and national unity.
Troop cuts for Britain
Britain, the United States’ largest military partner in Iraq, showed its confidence in an Iraqi peace Monday by announcing a 10 percent — about 800-troop — reduction by May.
“This is a significant reduction which is based largely on the ability of the Iraqis themselves to participate and defend themselves against terrorism, but there is a long, long way to go,” British Defense Secretary John Reid said in London.
The United States hopes to begin withdrawing some of its troops by this summer if a new Iraqi government is in place and judged sufficiently in control. But sectarian violence and political bickering has stalled the process.
Bush launches PR offensive
In Washington, President Bush said insurgents were trying to ignite a civil war by escalating violence.
“I wish I could tell you that the violence is waning and that the road ahead will be smooth,” Bush said in a speech at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies at George Washington University. “It will not. There will be more tough fighting and more days of struggle, and we will see more images of chaos and carnage in the days and months to come.”
Bomb blasts and shootings in Baghdad and north of the capital, many of them targeting Iraqi police patrols, killed at least 15 people Monday and wounded more than 40. They included a U.S. soldier who died in a roadside bombing, the military said. A U.S. Marine was reported killed Sunday in insurgent-plagued Anbar province.
The American deaths brought the number of U.S. military members killed to at least 2,308 since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.
Iraqi police manned checkpoints Monday at main entrances to Sadr City, and armed militiamen fanned out inside the neighborhood. Many people ventured out only to buy food.
Under the watchful eye of armed militiamen, market vendors picked through the charred, twisted remains of their stalls to salvage what they could.
'We will not be silent any more'
Abdel Karim al-Bahadli, 42, wept when he saw the devastation at the market close to his home. He blamed the extremist Sunni Takfiri sect of terrorist boss Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, leader of al-Qaida in Iraq.
“This is not resistance because there were no U.S. troops in the markets yesterday,” he said. “The Takfiris are only after Shiites. We will not be silent any more.”
Sadr City residents had feared an attack like this one after al-Sadr’s fighters stormed out of the slum to take revenge on Sunni Muslims and their mosques after the Feb. 22 bombing of a Shiite shrine in Samarra.
Politicians scrambled Monday to keep a lid on violence.
President Jalal Talabani said terrorists bent on civil war had taken advantage of a power vacuum caused by the delay in forming the government.
“It is the duty of the political groups to accelerate efforts to form the government, and the armed forces and security bodies should act swiftly to eliminate such crimes,” he said.
Al-Sadr, addressing reporters in the Shiite holy city of Najaf, appeared to absolve the larger Sunni community, saying: “Sunnis and Shiites are not responsible for such acts.” Instead, he blamed al-Qaida in Iraq and U.S. forces.
Sheik Ahmed Abdul Ghafour al-Samaraie, head of the Sunni Endowment, the state agency responsible for Sunni mosques and shrines, called the Sadr City attack “a cowardly and criminal act.”
“There are some hands trying to add fuel to the fire for their own benefit,” he said on television.
Iraq’s new parliament was to convene for the first time Thursday, three months after it was elected, to begin the process of forming the next government. The session will set in motion a 60-day deadline for the legislature to elect a president, approve a prime minister and sign off on his Cabinet.
Gruesome reprisals appear to intensify after particularly bloody weekend
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Police found at least 65 bodies in Baghdad in the past 24 hours, including 15 men bound and shot in an abandoned minibus, in a gruesome wave of apparent sectarian reprisal attacks, officials said Tuesday.
The timing of the killings appeared related to the car bomb and mortar attacks in the Shiite slum of Sadr City in east Baghdad on Sunday in which 58 people died and more than 200 were wounded.
The sectarian violence marked the second wave of mass killings in Iraq since Feb. 22, when bombers destroyed an important Shiite Muslim shrine in Samarra, north of the capital.
Carnage in Baghdad
The minibus was found on the main road between two mostly Sunni neighborhoods in west Baghdad, not far from where another minibus containing 18 bodies was discovered last week.
Dozens of bodies were found in both Sunni and Shiite areas, many of them among Baghdad’s most dangerous neighborhoods, said Maj. Falah al-Mohammedawi of the Interior Ministry, which oversees police.
A number of them were recovered from Sadr City, where two car bombs and four mortar rounds shattered shops and market stalls at nightfall Sunday, killing at least 58 people and injuring more than 200 as residents shopped for food for their evening meals.
Scorched pavement, destroyed shops and burned out cars awaited Shiite residents emerging from their homes Monday in Sadr City.
The scene, although gruesome, was not what many had feared: That the deadly explosions the previous night would ignite all-out civil war.
Radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr’s refused to be provoked. With thousands of his Mahdi Army militiamen ready to fight, the anti-American leader called for calm and national unity.
Troop cuts for Britain
Britain, the United States’ largest military partner in Iraq, showed its confidence in an Iraqi peace Monday by announcing a 10 percent — about 800-troop — reduction by May.
“This is a significant reduction which is based largely on the ability of the Iraqis themselves to participate and defend themselves against terrorism, but there is a long, long way to go,” British Defense Secretary John Reid said in London.
The United States hopes to begin withdrawing some of its troops by this summer if a new Iraqi government is in place and judged sufficiently in control. But sectarian violence and political bickering has stalled the process.
Bush launches PR offensive
In Washington, President Bush said insurgents were trying to ignite a civil war by escalating violence.
“I wish I could tell you that the violence is waning and that the road ahead will be smooth,” Bush said in a speech at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies at George Washington University. “It will not. There will be more tough fighting and more days of struggle, and we will see more images of chaos and carnage in the days and months to come.”
Bomb blasts and shootings in Baghdad and north of the capital, many of them targeting Iraqi police patrols, killed at least 15 people Monday and wounded more than 40. They included a U.S. soldier who died in a roadside bombing, the military said. A U.S. Marine was reported killed Sunday in insurgent-plagued Anbar province.
The American deaths brought the number of U.S. military members killed to at least 2,308 since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.
Iraqi police manned checkpoints Monday at main entrances to Sadr City, and armed militiamen fanned out inside the neighborhood. Many people ventured out only to buy food.
Under the watchful eye of armed militiamen, market vendors picked through the charred, twisted remains of their stalls to salvage what they could.
'We will not be silent any more'
Abdel Karim al-Bahadli, 42, wept when he saw the devastation at the market close to his home. He blamed the extremist Sunni Takfiri sect of terrorist boss Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, leader of al-Qaida in Iraq.
“This is not resistance because there were no U.S. troops in the markets yesterday,” he said. “The Takfiris are only after Shiites. We will not be silent any more.”
Sadr City residents had feared an attack like this one after al-Sadr’s fighters stormed out of the slum to take revenge on Sunni Muslims and their mosques after the Feb. 22 bombing of a Shiite shrine in Samarra.
Politicians scrambled Monday to keep a lid on violence.
President Jalal Talabani said terrorists bent on civil war had taken advantage of a power vacuum caused by the delay in forming the government.
“It is the duty of the political groups to accelerate efforts to form the government, and the armed forces and security bodies should act swiftly to eliminate such crimes,” he said.
Al-Sadr, addressing reporters in the Shiite holy city of Najaf, appeared to absolve the larger Sunni community, saying: “Sunnis and Shiites are not responsible for such acts.” Instead, he blamed al-Qaida in Iraq and U.S. forces.
Sheik Ahmed Abdul Ghafour al-Samaraie, head of the Sunni Endowment, the state agency responsible for Sunni mosques and shrines, called the Sadr City attack “a cowardly and criminal act.”
“There are some hands trying to add fuel to the fire for their own benefit,” he said on television.
Iraq’s new parliament was to convene for the first time Thursday, three months after it was elected, to begin the process of forming the next government. The session will set in motion a 60-day deadline for the legislature to elect a president, approve a prime minister and sign off on his Cabinet.
The Question
Eternal
I, too, disapprove of Bush. I prefer "the runway" or shaved entirely, although the last tends to make the woman mean. The women gets bitchy when the stuff gets itchy.
Big Dick McGee
If you don't know, now ya know
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Big Dick McGee
If you don't know, now ya know
Sarek said:Come on. Everyone likes to gawk at a train wreck. And the Bush administration is turning into a major attraction.
There's plenty I don't agree with in the Bush Administration. The P.A.T.R.I.O.T. ACT for one. Bush's rubber-stamping of spending increases, and the increase of big Government for others.
But, by and large, the values of this administration reflect my own.
Plus, if President Bush manages to finagle the overturning of Roe V. Wade, it'll all be worth it. :bigass:
Big Dick McGee
If you don't know, now ya know
^^Ever been to a Lake Monsters game? I'd love to play golf then see a Lake Monsters game. Maybe next year, when my son will be 3!
Caitriona
Something Wicked
Big Dick McGee said:
Just because a President shares your values, doesn't mean he is a good leader, and to choose president based on values alone, and not performance, is more than foolish, it is dangerous.
I'm glad you share his values. There's nothing inherently wrong with voting for someone who does, but come on... You can sit in church next to some guy who shares your values, doesn't make him any less of a village idiot when it comes to management and leadership.
As for Roe V. Wade... have you given one bit of thought to what would happen in our country if that happened? You sound like Bush before went to war, and look where we are now--deep in a civil war we created. We'll be there for years, sucking our tax dollars up in some puff of war mongering smoke. Same with Roe.. it will ignite more division in the country than you can imagine. Not just with the fury of women once it is done, but with the aftermath of laws that are passed on state levels.
Like I've said before, if you neo-cons want to stay in office, don't reverse Roe. It is the carrot that solidifies your base. Reverse it, and you solidify the DNC.
All rhetoric and philosophy aside, just wait until men and women are faced with the prospect of unwanted pregnancies and no way in their state to obtain an abortion. Just wait and see how fast they vote those legislators out of office.
Idiots like you who beat a drum for over turning Roe aren't thinking of what that will do to the climate of the country any more than Bush thought about what unseating an existing government would do when he left a power void. Civil war was an easy prediction. Just like civil unrest is if Roe is gone.
It isn't as simple as just turning back the clock. I wish it were. I'm not pro-abortion myself and I think something needs to change, but not over turning Roe. Roe is a privacy guarantee. You and your ilk would have private matters put in the hands of individual states. That's letting the state into our bedrooms and our lives just a little too much.
While you may not like the decisions of millions of Americans, it should still be their decision--not the State's OR yours.
Laker_Girl
Mrs. Big Dick McGee
Yeah, even I'm over Bush, defending his cowboying shit has worn me out.
Bring on the new crop of Republicans!:bigass:
Bring on the new crop of Republicans!:bigass:
Laker_Girl
Mrs. Big Dick McGee
^^WORD!
Eggs Mayonnaise
All In With The Nuts
The only trouble with Giuliani is, he doesn't work/play well with others. As a President he's going to have to make friends with Congress, and as a politician he's never forgotten his law & order prosecutor roots. I'd be very interested to see his choice for Attorney General.
People forget that before 9/11, Giuliani was despised by many New Yorkers for his strong-arm tactics, and he had burned many political bridges during his reign. He's a great legend and talking head now, but that doesn't mean he'd make a great President.
People forget that before 9/11, Giuliani was despised by many New Yorkers for his strong-arm tactics, and he had burned many political bridges during his reign. He's a great legend and talking head now, but that doesn't mean he'd make a great President.