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D&D 4e

Starship Coyote

Starship Coyote

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Anyone tried it yet? I have the books on PDF but haven't bothered to buy the print ones or find anyone who has a game going.

I've heard mixed reviews.
 
I'll upgrade later. If you want a ton of rulebooks for 3.5, I'll upload a torrent for ya. It's pretty massive. About 3.8gb worth of books.
 
I have literally everything 3.5 related on PDF and about half that in book form. Thanks though.

I got the 4e pdfs, the three core books and the first adventure, through contacts weeks before they were released.
 
Ok, after first glance, it looks to me as if the rules have become more WotC'd. They're adding references to what seems to be licensed tournaments. They've made a mandatory system for making character stats. In fact, it looks as if they're trying to eliminate die rolls completely and they're giving a lot of pregenerated stats. I've only gotten through the character generation rules, but it looks to be the death of D&D.

Some buddies of mine went to Origins this year and said that WotC had a section just for 4.0. They told me that almost nobody was visiting the area. One friend audited the tutorial and wasn't too happy about things. He didn't go into detail as to why, but now I can see his objection.
 
It is indeed the death of D&D as an active RPG.

I can't think of a single independent publisher who bought the pre-license agreement with WOTC... everyone's waiting for the time period to lapse before publishing stuff under the GSL.

I know people who've testplayed it and the reviews are mostly negative. There are a few satisfied customers, but I suspect 3.5 is here to stay for awhile thanks to the SRD. Hell, even Paizo, who used to publish Dragon and Dungeon, released their own RPG called Pathfinder, which is based on the OGL. It's 3.5 with some tweaks.
 
From my initial glance over 4.0, it seems that 3.5 was a bit more versatile. I need to go through the spells in order to give you a better answer. I've only been looking over the primary info in the new PHB.
 
Blindgroping said:
If anyone wants to play 1st ed AD&D, I still have two full sets of books.

Ha!
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This is where my nitpicky nerd comes out. There is no such thing as 1st edition AD&D.

The sequence of editions goes as follows:
Dungeons & Dragons
Advanced Dungeons & Dragons
Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 2nd Edition
Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition
Dungeons & Dragons version 3.5
Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition

Are you talking about the first version of AD&D or the original D&D?
 
Conchaga said:
This is where my nitpicky nerd comes out. There is no such thing as 1st edition AD&D.

The sequence of editions goes as follows:
Dungeons & Dragons
Advanced Dungeons & Dragons
Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 2nd Edition
Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition
Dungeons & Dragons version 3.5
Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition

Are you talking about the first version of AD&D or the original D&D?
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That one.
 
Archibald Nixon said:
GSL
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General system license: the license by WOTC that allows publishers to use D&D 4e to publish their own stuff as compatable. Generally considered by the gaming industry to be so restrictive as to be a complete joke.

SRD
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System Reference Document. The guts of D&D 3e. Material that can be used by publishers to publish their own stuff however they want so long as they include:

OGL
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Open Game License. Permission to use the SRD material.

WOTC
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Wizards of the Coast. The owners of D&D now. AKA Wallets of the Coast, Wizards of the Checkbook, Wizards of the Cash Register, etc. A subsidiary of HASBRO now.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE MEAN[/quote]
 
Blindgroping said:
That one.
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I started playing in the early 90's. After 2nd ed came out. However, what brought me into playing wasn't friends. I read Dragonlance: Dragons of Autumn Twilight by Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman. Ever since then, I've played strictly Dragonlance campaigns. Which means that due to my obsession I went out and bought everything Dragonlance from AD&D on.

What ticked me off about 3rd ed was that they focused on Forgotten Realms as a campaign setting and almost completely holocausted the other campaign settings which made D&D so good. Ravenloft, Darksun, Planescape, Al Quadim, and Dragonlance had HUGE followings prior to 3.0. Which, to me, was a giant mistake, because Dragonlance was the first campaign setting for AD&D. It was also their flagship novella release. Meaning, all D&D-based novels started because of the success of Dragons of Autumn Twilight. To be more accurate, DoAT was the first novel based on an RPG. It's popularity is so much that they recently made an animated movie about it. The movie had some fairly big names in it, including Kiefer Sutherland and Lucy Lawless.

When Dragonlance entered the Fifth Age (this is the doing of WotC, btw), they released a small boxed set that you could play the new campaign with. However, WotC in their infinite ignorance tried to make it a card-based game. It sucked balls. This effectively made me not want to play any new version of D&D until I discovered 3.5 and the fact that WotC, in order to make amends for releasing that shitty boxed set, released a series of Dragonlance campaign modules and some core rulebooks. These books renewed my interest in D&D and I went out and bought the 3.5 PHB, DMG, and the MM.

I've been DMing the Dragonlance 3.5 campaign with a close group of gamer friends for about a year now.

My Dragonlance collection includes the following items:
  • AD&D DL1-9
  • AD&D Dragonlance Adventures 1987
  • Atlas of the Dragonlance World By Karen Wynn Fonstad (same woman who did the atlas of Middle earth) A great book for mapophiles
  • 2nd Ed. Dragon Magic 1989
  • 2nd Ed. Monstrous Compendium Volume 2 (Dragonlance Creatures) in original 3-ring binder 1990
  • 2nd Ed. Unsung Heroes 1992
  • 2nd Ed. Player's Guide to the Dragonlance Campaign (last major Dragonlance rulebook written before the reign of WotC) 1993
  • 2nd Ed. Dwarven Kingdoms of Krynn Boxed Set 1993
  • The History of the Dragonlance Saga (errata) 1995
  • SAGA Rules System Fifth Age Boxed Set 1997
  • SAGA/2nd Ed (Hybrid) Dragonlance Classics (A collection of DL1-15 WotC's first attempt at doing D&D the right way) 1999
  • 3.5 Dragonlance Campaign Setting 2003 (WotC redeems itself)
  • 3.5 War of the Lance 2003
  • 3.5 Age of Mortals 2003
  • 3.5 Bestiary of Krynn 2003
  • 3.5 Dragonlance DM screen 2004
  • 3.5 Key of Destiny Campaign module 2004
  • 3.5 Spectre of Sorrows Campaign module 2005
  • 3.5 Price of Courage Campaign module 2006

Novels owned and read at least three times:
  • The Soulforge
  • Dragons of Autumn Twilight
  • Dragons of Winter Night
  • Dragons of Spring Dawning
  • Time of the Twins
  • War of the Twins
  • Test of the Twins
  • The Second Generation
  • Dragons of Summer Flame
  • Dragons of a Fallen Sun
  • Dragons of a Lost Star
  • Dragons of a Vanished Moon

I'd value my collection at about $1000.

Anyway, here's a torrent for my PDF collection. Link
 
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