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EI Guideline Vote

(to Gode)^ That situation has a simple solution. Its been explained. He fucked up, and apologized for it. It was created by your board's own paranoid fear of duals and DS, along with his other cohorts, getting back on the board. Not to mention your staff's need to have the offender kowtow by e-mailing them about how he's been a bad boy, and will never do it again.

Unban him, and most of this will go away.
 
RobL said:
^ That situation has a simple solution. Its been explained. He fucked up, and apologized for it. It was created by your board's own paranoid fear of duals and DS, along with his other cohorts, getting back on the board. Not to mention your staff's need to have the offender kowtow by e-mailing them about how he's been a bad boy, and will never do it again.

Unban him, and most of this will go away.
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Congratulations, you just missed the entire point of my post.
 
Caitriona said:
There are those I don't. It's the ones I don't admire that give me pause.
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Cait, I don't know what to tell you. You'll never have a perfect staff, anywhere, ever.

I think it's healthy really, because it stops a person from getting complacent.
 
Caitriona said:
There are Staff members I do admire.
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And that's where you and I differ.

They are all part of the same system. The "good" ones, as you put it, needed to speak up long ago before it got this bad. And if the other mods didn't listen, then they should have beat feet out of there.
 
Godeskian said:
Congratulations, you just missed the entire point of my post.
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No, I didn't.

You said that you want a solution to the HF situation. There is one present. Its not my fault that you are too chicken shit to carry it out.

How's that for "moderator interpretation"? "Interpret" what's obvious, and unban Heroicfool. Simple.
 
You said that you want a solution to the HF situation. There is one present. Its not my fault that you are too chicken shit to carry it out.
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Not quite.

I came to resolve the fact that HF wouldn't email the staff first, by coming here and asking him to. To provide the missing middle ground.

And to be honest, your posts in this thread say volumes about how little you actually read of my posts before you begin responding.
 
RobL said:
Because I am a troll. Ask Sardy. Red. Any of the other old timers.

<bus and truck company of Man of La Mancha snipped>

Don't like it? Tough. I'm a troll. Deal with it.
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Whoa cowboy, I didn't say I didn't like it. They sound like bigger asses than most. And I know who & what you are, I've been around Trek/TK/EFCL/LoNAF/Terran/SSU/takeyourpick almost as long as you. Have fun and good hunting, I was merely offering an option. To read the posts here the place seems pretty rotted out from the inside. Sometimes all you have to do to give it the final crumble is to go away and stop supporting the structure entirely. Guess I was mistaken...
 
RobL said:
And that's where you and I differ.

They are all part of the same system. The "good" ones, as you put it, needed to speak up long ago before it got this bad. And if the other mods didn't listen, then they should have beat feet out of there.
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OK, you have a point there.
 
Godeskian said:
God forbid a moderator should excersise his or her own judgement instead of slavishly following the rules.

Oh wait, that was what we were told we SHOULD have been doing in HF's case.

Funny how mod interpretation is a good thing one day and 'not good' the other.
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That depends alot on how good the mods are doesn't it Gode?

When the first response to any situation is to ban or silence, or repress information any dissenting discussion, then yes...

With people like that in charge then leaving things up to them isn't exactly a great thing.

With mods that are willing to listen, that resort to bans and other such things as the LAST resort that it is, then leaving things in their hands could be the greatest thing ever...

Which camp do you see yourself in? What about the rest of the staff at EI in general?
 
The only person who can start the appeal is the member who was warned. Members who are suspended may make an appeal to [email protected] .
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I see they found a way to keep AQG under control. An interesting approach. Stupid, but interesting.

So no one can question a ban or a permaban ever again? How could they? They will be banned, and no one else can speak up about any injustice? What a sweet deal for the Staff. I really never thought it could get this obvious.

ShadowIce, under these rules, Nikki Blue could have never brought your indefinite suspension to the attention of the board. The HF thread wouldn't exist, course that is the whole point now isn't it? It'll now all get neatly swept under the carpet and out of sight.

Now no one will ever be able to speak up for someone whose been silenced. Nice trick. I seem to remember a similar rule on TrekBBS and SS. *shakes head*


Well, they'll have a nice quiet board where all the right thinking people can seek shelter from reality.
 
These Polls must have a clearly agreed upon wording and number of requests required to institute a Poll will be 10% of the members that have been active in the past month. (This number will be provided on request and must be published in the Poll thread)
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And another illusion shattered. Try getting a poll going now. Never happen. Even on TK 10% of 300 people is 30. EI has a more active membership than we do. You're looking at 40+ people needed to just get a poll begun, and then you have to get the measure passed and then the staff can refuse it anyway.

Why bother with the pretense any longer. There is no real member participation any longer.

So not only do we have to accept these guidelines, there really is no way to ever change them.

Another nice trick Staff.
 
When dealing with members who have no suspensions on their record, the staff will look back over the past six months to determine the member's number of previous warnings. For members who have incurred any suspensions in the past year a period of one year will be used to determine the number of warnings the member has when considering suspensions.
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Another nice trick. So they can go back a year and "determine" what is fair for you? LOL, I have to wonder if anyone who voted yes, even read these guidelines.
 
No. Of course not. That would be admitting that you were right, and they were wrong. And they just can't have that. :bigass:

I'm actually surprised that they didn't perma me my last ban. You and GTC did a lot less, or at least I thought you did less.
 
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