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FAT ACCEPTANCE - JOKE OF THE 21ST CENTURY

While gentics play a part you certainly shouldn't start blaming them before you have made all the other tough lifestyle changes, certainly.
 
Blondie, being a shrink, and I were discussing this subject a couple of weeks ago.

She theorized that obesity and anorexia are simply the same problem, and it deals with self-image. I've personally known a guy who was so fat he's really in danger of dying soon, and he honestly didn't believe he's fat.

She said something about a particular part of the brain that regulates your concept of where "you" begins and the rest of the world ends. Apparently, this concept can be distorted over time through undesirable social reinforcement. Or some psychobabble like that. Makes sense though.

So anorexics feel like they've gone past the boundary of where they should begin, and fatties feel like their under that boundary.

This is what I told her: both she and I lived in the 70s and remember when Saturday morning cartoons were punctuated with commercials for all sorts of junk food... cereals, candy, etc. Remember when Golden Crisps were Super Sugar Crisps... with that bear with no pants running around? Stuff like that. Yet not many of us kids were obese like they are now.
 
happy to find a discussion like this on TK, without extreme nastiness.

I believe there are genetics in play, but it is not the most important factor. Genetics doesnt make you choose a cupcake before an apple.
Conditioning from when you grow up, does.. and patterns can go from generation to generation. What you are exposed to as a child plays a big part of what you will chose to eat as an adult. I hated cookI ped veggies as a kid, and i hate it now instinctly.. i will eat it though, but i take no pleasure in cooking them. I however know that my moms cinnemonrolls were divine and i will spend alot of time and bellyspace on finding a good enough roll to take her rolls place ;). This can be overcome with interest and willpower, but it is a kicker that bad things often taste so good and is so readily available.
No one has to cook or work hard to get food on the table (if they can afford it that is). It is harder to find pre-cooked GOOD choices though, atleast in my store. Healthy food is often slowcooked homemade meals.. or stuff you have to assamble on your own.

Also many obese people eat their emotions. When they are sad, or bored, or happy, or.. they just dont have another good outlet for their emotions.
I believe parents are largely to blame. How do they comfort their child? Do they activate the child.
Sugar and fat can give calm. I often speak to my friend who is a (obsese aswell but you cant find a more well groomed woman) foodaddict working on her problems together with a therapist, and she explained it to me and it is something i can absolutly relate to behavior i have had in the past. When she eats chocolate fast and a large enough ammount- she gets high. Her body destresses, and she gets calm. In her entire upbringing she would be bullied and abused.. and what did she do? She ate chocolate and whatever she could find.

Do i find obsese people attractive. Not in particular. I prefer a couple of extra pounds on people, but that is because im not perfect, and perfect people makes me insecure in myself (yes,i have to work on that). But generally i find things as clenliness, tone of voice.. gestures.. confidence.. to be what attracts me to people. Take my friend up there with the chocolateaddiction. She is obese and wellgroomed at the same time. Some people cant accept her obesity at all, and they miss out on the woman that will take care of you when you are low- who will take a cab over to your place and hold you when life is treating you so bad you just want to lie in bed and die on your own, and she comes and rescues you.
Same woman who will tell you honestly when you are having a problem or doing something wrong. A woman who will listen and tell you whatever you have problems with. Yep, she even taught me how to do my makeup when i wanted to stop being a geeky stressed out mom without a clue. I still dont wear much makeup but i know how to ;) . And she will dance and throw lovely parties, and i geneuinly love her company.
So dont judge a book by its cover.
 
Aurian said:
happy to find a discussion like this on TK, without extreme nastiness.

We're just so nasty here. We send people away crying everyday. :gagh:

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Uh huh. Yeah.

So dont judge a book by its cover.

Wow, I've never heard of that one before... what a nugget of brilliance and wisdom!
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Laker_Girl said:
I watch A LOT of the Discovery Health Channel, they do shows on the overweight and obese aaaaallllll the time, I know my stuff.


OK that made me LOL. You watch teevee so you're an expert...:laugh:
 
That made me laugh too. I've watched a shitload of violent horror movies, so I guess that makes me an expert on torture and murder.

The real secret to weight loss is in carbohydrate consumption. If there's no sugar in your blood or system, the body must consume fat. The "trick" is to do it without "ketosis", so exercise (that also includes regular activity) is essential.

Fiber is probably the single easiest addition to the diet to accelerate weight loss.
 
jack said:
The real secret to weight loss is in carbohydrate consumption. If there's no sugar in your blood or system, the body must consume fat. The "trick" is to do it without "ketosis", so exercise (that also includes regular activity) is essential.

Fiber is probably the single easiest addition to the diet to accelerate weight loss.

Without ketosis? But... ketosis is the body's act of burning stored fat instead of blood sugar.

Otherwise you are dead-on.
 
VKD said:
OK that made me LOL. You watch teevee so you're an expert...:laugh:

Apparently you have NO IDEA how many shows they do on the obese!

I was kidding however. Damn it you people just don't get me.
 
I tried a piece of buttermilk pie today. It was kind of nice. A cup of coffee with it would have been very nice.
 
No. It was more like an egg custard pie but not as sweet. Since I've been old I've been looking for the perfect piece of pie to have with a cup of coffee. The buttermilk pie might just be it.
 
It is called "Impossible Buttermilk Pie." Here is a recipe I found on the internet that sounds like the one the lady who made it recited.

INGREDIENTS
1 1/2 cups white sugar
1 cup buttermilk
1/2 cup baking mix
1/3 cup butter, melted
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
3 eggs

DIRECTIONS
Heat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C). Grease a 9 inch pie plate.
Beat together white sugar, buttermilk, baking mix, melted butter or margarine, vanilla, and eggs until smooth. Pour filling into pie plate.
Bake until knife inserted in center comes out clean, about 30 minutes. Cool 5 minutes.
 
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