How real is real?

Donovan

beer, I want beer
A provocative comment from another thread got me thinking, and while some might say that's not a good thing, I felt the topic could use some airing out on its own merit, and not attached to any ongoing verbal conflicts.

The question is simple, and has been tackled before: in this age of social networking and internet scandal, how real is real?
 

jack

The Legendary Troll Kingdom
I voted
 

Loktar

Pinata Whacker
All relationships are real. Its the meeting face to face, becoming FB friends, seeing each other nekkid, etc that solidifies and strengths the online relationship.
 

Cassie

Touching the monolith
Staff member
I voted for the Weiner.
 

Donovan

beer, I want beer
I will withhold comment pending further participation and then add my two cents.
 

starguard

Unluckiest Charm in the Box
Sir I wll tell you from my own experience....


It only becomes REAL after your first real fight. When the two of you first meet, you are both trying to be nice to one another because the both of you want the other to like or accept you. This is fine at first, but after a while you both will start seeing things in each other that the both of you find annoying, but neither will want to say anything about it because you both want this relationship to work

After a while, tensions will build up.. until your first fight takes place. Believe me it will be a bad one too.. but it will also be your best one because the both of you will let the other know exactly how you really feel. "all gloves comes off as they say"

The best time to get the truth out of anyone is when they are either drunk, or raging mad at you. After this point and you've both calmed down, one (or both) will regret all that was said and done, and will do what is necessary to make up for it. This is the healing process that will get the two of you back together, and from there..the rest is history.


Now take Jack for example. Jack simply refuses to believe that I have a spouse that I am happy with. It didnt dawn on me until after following his behavior with eloisel that it is in fact "HE" is the one that is alone. :hmmm:

After spending many nights "Floging the log" to a variety of porn sites and probably catching a ton on viruses in the process, it is this fact that explains his biterness and hostility towards everyone and everything in this forum. Perhaps his blow up dolls has exploded and his mail order account has been suspended, perhaps he has run out of vasaline...who know's.

Whatever the case may be, after watching his atrocious behavior with eloisel, the Po-child needs help!


You can learn many things from the people here in TK. With Jackyboy, he is a prime example of what NOT to do with women!

:techman:
 

jack

The Legendary Troll Kingdom
Starguard, I can tell you a couple things.

1. Men who are REALLY married never speak of their wives the way you do endlessly on the internets just to try to get a laugh or a little attention. I had someone who is REALLY good at it do a little research, and that's as far as I'm going with this. You aren't married.

2. I have kids older than you in real life, so shut the fuck up, little man. You're a fake, deal with it.
 

Loktar

Pinata Whacker
Starguard, I can tell you a couple things.

1. Men who are REALLY married never speak of their wives the way you do endlessly on the internets just to try to get a laugh or a little attention. I had someone who is REALLY good at it do a little research, and that's as far as I'm going with this. You aren't married.

2. I have kids older than you in real life, so shut the fuck up, little man. You're a fake, deal with it.

3. Real married people don't spend as much time as you do on the internet. For example its a rare sight to see BDM/Laker Girl, Yub, etc.
 

eloisel

Forever Empress E
3. Real married people don't spend as much time as you do on the internet. For example its a rare sight to see BDM/Laker Girl, Yub, etc.

<64,000 vs. >8,000
 

jack

The Legendary Troll Kingdom
I wont even mention how self-pwned the above poster is :bigass:
 

Love Child

One Love
^
Its real when I say that
and you are inside of me
and I am inside of you
and we are on top of each other
and I
can taste your sweat
 

Love Child

One Love
Its real when I care about you beyond words on a page
its real when I think of you when we are not here posting
its real
when it gets real



but then sometimes it is fake

even in the fakery-that is real too

Donavan, people can be just as fake face to face as they can on a message board. There are people here that know more about me than some of my face to face friends.
Meeting Gonad was an example of that. Her and I knew things about each other that probably "normal" girlfriends would not know about each other in "real life".
 

jack

The Legendary Troll Kingdom
Like that anal thing?
 

Donovan

beer, I want beer
Thoughts: we as a society have entered a digital age where much of what LC says is true. Our online counterparts are often closer to us than our actual physical acquaintances, through depth of contact. For example, if a person reveals a secret about himself to a friend in "reality", that secret may or may not register, it may or may not stick in the memory, and it may or may not become important based on the attention level of the listener. However, online=permanent, in that a secret revealed is studied, read, and considered at length by the person who receives it. Conclusions are formed, and reenforced.
We have friends we speak to via phone, text, facebook, internet, videogame console, skype, and over the back fence. But when we have something of import to share, which of those groups do we notify first?

I think that although this discussion has come up many times before, the nature of friendship itself is rapidly changing and therefore so do the definitions of what is "real life relationship."

I personally still prefer either a name or a face to attach to a person in order to make it "real" for me, maybe because of my experience with these trollboards. But I find in reflecting on just the examples from here that it no longer has to be both. For example, I have relationships fostered just at TK which have become more genuine and have lasted multiple years, and yet involve persons I'd never be able to pick out in a crowd. Other relationships I've had here were directly affected by the introduction of a picture, a face, or PI of some sort that entirely changed the way I felt about and interacted with that person. Conversely, there are one or two entities I've interacted with for many years who have provided supposed real world info etc, and yet my relationship with them is not genuine based on my doubt that they may be a dual or fake account. My interaction with them is much different.

So can a relationship, good or bad, become genuine if it only exists without any real world info at all? Yes. Does real world info affect the nature of a relationship? Also yes.

I'll add more later. I just wanted to give my initial thought on the topic.
 

Love Child

One Love
In response to you Donovan,
I have a hard time feeling real about most online interactions.

Over the years I have learned that some take every online interaction very seriously.

Learning this has helped me to realize a lot in my online interactions.
 

jack

The Legendary Troll Kingdom
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Loktar

Pinata Whacker
Over the years I have learned that some take every online interaction very seriously.

I probably should take my online interactions more seriously. It seems I'm always apologizing for saying something silly, stupid, mean. I should make sure my response is clear in its intention to be funny or mean instead of sometimes leaving it up to other poster's interpretations of what I intended.

Its wrong to get my lulz from seeing people misinterpret what I intended to say. Right?
 

Friday

Bazinga!
I find online friendships lacking. Maybe it's because most of my life predates the internet, but for me, a relationship (friendship, whatever) isn't solidified unless we interact face-to-face.

Real life experiences color friendships, and give them depth. I find something severely lacking in internet-only relationships.

I have online friends, certainly. However, I consider them less "real" than my real life interactions.

In an internet friendship, what shared memories are there to bond the relationship? "Remember the time we trolled such and such site? LULz". Not real.

There's no solidity, nothing tangible there. Thus, internet friendships are very easily broken.
 
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