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So did they change the future just so the future still ends up sucking? In the words of Deadpool,"these timelines are so confusing." It looks good, but they shouldve done a Wolverine/Deadpool buddy action film.
 
Yeah it would make more sense to have this set in the original timeline from Days of Future Past where everything was fucked up, rather than the "everyone's alive agian, even Cyclops!" altered timeline.
 
Marvel used to do "what if" comics, which existed outside regular continuity, this could be one too.
 
Judging from the trailer I guess mutants have the lost their powers, and I'm guessing the girl is X-23. I'm guessing she's the only mutant left ( perhaps from being a clone), and deathbed Professor X wants the now aging Logan to keep her safe. So Wolverine changed the past so instead of dealing with world ending Sentinals they have to deal with asshole cyborgs. Either way, mutants are gone, and the X men cinematic universe ends in disappointment for the characters. So besides from Deadpool does Fox plan on wrapping up the X men franchise?
 
Well Cable's supposed to be in Deadpool 2 (which just lost director Tim Miller by the way, oops) and he can just create a new timeline. In fact I can see Deadpool just looking directly into camera and saying "this is a different timeline from Logan, don't worry about it nerds."
 
And, there's the Legion series, and the supposed X-force movie. Not sure where legion fits in, but I imagine X-force will take the Deadpool route, and keep it's continuity only loosely connected to the X-men stuff.
 
There was a pretty decent miniseries a while back called "old man Logan" about a future where all the vilains had planned this coordinated strike by switching their opponents and killed all the heroes then divided the earth up among themselves. Logan had been tricked by Mysterio into killing all the Xmen so he went pacifist until his family got killed by Hulk's inbred offspring with his cousin. Its a fucked up story, pretty good, and the movie is sorta kinda loosely based on it from what I hear. They can't do any of the mainstream heroes but they can do a bit where Logan killed the Men.
 
That was a pretty good story. Its gonna be interesting to see how much of it they use for the movie. I guess Prof. X is substituting for Hawkeye in the movie. I know the Old Man Logan version of Wolverine is currently a part of the X men in the comics. He got plucked from his universe, and I think he's running around with X23 too.
 
I'm kinda twisted but I'm following Xmen more closely than I have in forever, not because of storylines or nostalgia but because I'm fascinated by what they're doing to sabotage Fox and devalue the franchise. The superpower battle Disney is waging to buy back all its stuff is riveting...
 
Just because marvel doesn't own the movie rights, but makes great profit but not maximum profit doesn't really justify their treatment of their properties tied to fox. If Fox hadn't taken the chance with X men in the first place all those years ago they're may not even be a whole cinematic franchise. Not to mention X men carried marvel comics on its back for years while every other title struggled or floundered. Not to even mention fantastic four, the book that started it all getting the shit treatment it has on the comic side. But it also doesn't help with the quality of story telling in the books taking the plunge it has in the last 10 years. They change and reboot so much I gave up completely on the comics.
 
Fantastic Four got cancelled because its sales were shit. I'm sure it'll be relaunched next year. They don't have control of Deadpool either but he's still in about eight different books (because they sell really well.)
 
Fantastic four got buried for the same reason as mutants: the mouse is not to be fucked with. Disney don't care that Fox saved Marvel and they don't care about comic sales. They're about merchandising. Bad monthly comic sales are pocket change. The minute they get what they want out of Fox and Sony or a suitable compromise, the missing in action characters will be back in force. Reminder: before Disney put the machine to work behind them, Thor, Iron Man, Captain America and Dr Strange also had shit sales. Marvel was all mutant, all the time.
 
Deadpools popularity currently dwarfs X men, and definitely FF. Deadpool related comic are best sellers. He can't be ignored.

I know I remember seeing a bunch of articles where marvel comics cancelled Fantastic Four as a "fuck you" to fox as they were set to regain the film rights unless fox produced another FF movie before a certain deadline. Which, of course they did. That pissed Marvel off, and the comic got the axe, and Marvel did no promotion for the film as a result. Not, that they have really promoted the X movies since the birth of Marvel films either.

Another example, we see some X men toys, (comics related) but every since Marvel started producing their own movies we see a saturation of Avengers toys, but the last 3 or 4 X-Men movies (deadpool included) haven't had a toyline? They've had very little representation on in a toyshelf. Maybe thats more Hasbro's call though. I think Marvel producing their own movies was the smartest thing they ever done. But, it seems like their comics they don't have film rights to have definitely suffered from it since.
 
they're trying to strongarm Fox into relinquishing some or all the rights by burying the comic tie-ins and refusing them merchandising rights to the films. And because Disney has deeper pockets in terms of money, characters, and legal representation, they will eventually get what they want. It's a matter of when, not if. And if Fox refuses to let go, they can simply continue to bury anything mutant or FF related. Gotta admit it's made for interesting stories in the last couple years, as Wolverine's death, FF destruction, even Namor getting whacked, and the introduction of inhumans as the "new" mutant macguffin...all driven by the need to bury non-Marvel-owned movie properties. Deadpool is literally the only exception, and if it hadn't been for over-the-top support by Ryan Reynolds, I suspect they'd have buried that too. I don't think they expected that movie to hit like it did.
 
Namor's already back. Wolverine's back as (ironically!?) Old Man Logan and I'm guessing RessureXion will involve the real Wolverine coming back (and Laura Kinney/X23 has her own book which is the best X-Men book at the moment...not that there's much competition.) Spider-Man was still around while Sony were screwing up his movies. I'm not saying they don't favour MCU characters and downplay others (the X-Men have undeniably suffered, the way black Nick Fury was inroduced was horribly contrived) but some of it's just coincidence.
 
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