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Official Trek 11 countdown/news thread

Now bumped to May 8th apparently, as they think it will perform better then.
 
Eggs Mayonnaise said:
I'd like to know every thought Robert Beltran has ever expressed on the subject.
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Okay, I'll list all those thoughts here:

"Huh?"
 
Yup, over a year's wait now. :( Still, I suppose it will do pretty well if most other movies are being delayed or haven't gone into production yet because of the strike.
 
Eh, it's going to blow anyway. Two strikes against it already, one justifiable, one only superstition (but an empirically well founded one):

1. It's an odd-numbered Trek film, which have historically tended to suck while even-numbered ones were okay (with the exception of Nemesis).
2. It's another Trek prequel, and the last of those was fucking PAINFUL.
 
I think there will be framing scenes of Spock in the "present" (24th century) so it's more a time travel story than a prequel...I guess.
 
Yeah, echoes of the Enterprise finale on that one.
 
If the last line is "computer, end program" again, I'll laugh. IN RAGE.
 
I have high hopes. From what I've read, everyone involved seems to 'get' the original series and those characters and at the same time they're distanced enough and have fresh eyes, so they can be adventurous and do the things that Rick Berman was too shit scared to do. It's always annoying reading behind the scenes books like the TNG companion or ones about the movies where directors or actors had fantastic ideas that got nixed because of unimaginative execs. Even tiny little details like Sisko not being allowed to get a promotion to admiral. They were so concerned about taking the safe options that they cut their nose off despite their face. I think with this new production we'll see a lot that's changed, some of which will piss off die hard fans, but at it's heart it'll have the same ideals, the same positive outlook that TOS did.

And if it's shit, Star Trek really doesn't have much to lose.
 
It'll probably be good...but it's not out for ages so I don't really care. This time next year I'll care again, I suppose.
 
Problem is, Star Trek lives or dies on the existing fans. You don't see long lines of people waiting to sign up for the nerd stigma that is Star Trek fandom. So they want a Star Trek prequel to succeed? They had damned well fucking better make it a PREQUEL. That means the technology makes the 60s shit look more advanced. Find a fuckin' way to do that.
 
And therein lies the paradox. Make things less advanced than the 60s, but it still has to look 2000's video-game cool to bring in the kids.

Which is why they should STOP CORPSE-RAPING GENE BY TRYING TO DO FUCKING PREQUELS.

It's time for the Third Generation.
 
You know, I'm sure there are ways to make the thing look like it could have led to the '60s look. But the Star Trek: Enterprise/TMP hybrid look ain't gonna do it.
 
I have never watched Star Trek, therefore I am better than all of you.

I want to rape and murder Star Trek geeks. I never thought they really exist.
 
^^Shut up, Wordin.
 
Wordin liked Star Trek.
 
Ronald D. Moore talks anout Trek XI:

MR : I saw a trailer for the new “Star Trek” film over the holidays and I got excited, just because it was a little glimpse of “Trek” and I realized we hadn’t had anything from that realm in so long. Do you have any feelings about the new feature film ? Will you go see it ?

Ronald D. Moore : “Oh, I’ll see it. I actually got to go down to visit the set. I actually wangled a set visit that I can say nothing about, other than that I was very excited. It was really a treat for me personally. I was very grateful to J.J. and Damon for making that happen. I saw the sets and thought the production design was just great. I just really liked the visual of it. And the vibe on the set was incredibly positive and very up. People were feeling good and confident and happy. It was really great for me. It was great to be back at Paramount and to walk into a stage where there was a Federation starship.”

MR : Did you think Paramount did the right thing by going outside the “Trek” family, so to speak, for this film ?

RDM : “Absolutely. I think that was a very smart decision. God love all of us that did all the series and the movies during those years, but that’s a long time. There were a lot of tired people. A lot of tired blood. And it’s time to bring in fresh eyes to it all.

“I think it’s akin to when they brought in Harve Bennett to [write the second ‘Star Trek’ movie,] ‘The Wrath of Khan.’ [Creator] Gene [Roddenberry] had lived and breathed ‘Trek’ for a long time. He did [‘Star Trek :] The Motion Picture,’ and ‘The Motion Picture’ is what it is – I certainly went to see it and loved it at the moment, but it was bloated and [had] overruns and there a sense of it not really finding its feet yet.

“Then they brought in [writer] Harve Bennett, who had no connection to the show, and [director Nicholas] Meyer, who had never seen the show, and they reinvented it. They started over. They went at the costumes differently, the storytelling, the vibe of it, the style of story that they were going to do. They rescued the whole franchise. ‘Wrath of Khan’ makes all the subsequent ‘Star Trek’ projects possible.

“And I think that’s where they are with the franchise now. They’ve brought in someone new, someone with no connection to the what’s come before, who cares about it and says, ‘Wipe the slate, let’s make this version.’”

MR : Have you seen the script ?

RDM : “No, I didn’t even ask. I didn’t ask anything about the plot. I just wanted to take a look and be nostalgic.”
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How dare he make sense.
 
A crazy Trek fan

25. hitch1969© - March 28, 2008

Relax fellas. You only get the first time once.

I’m pretty sure that’s what I was talking about before. But the flip side of that is let’s think about this. Think about all the people who want to see this movie really really badly like we do, who, due to statistical probabilities and or fate, for some reason would happen to be alive on Christmas 2008 but for whatever reason will die before May 2009.

It could be cancer, a car wreck, a psycho girlfriend with a knife that catches you cheating - whatever the means. They woulda had the movie at Christmas when things were fine. Then come Feb 18, 2009 - wrong place, right time - blammo, brains blown out during a liquor store robbery.

Thats the sort of opportunity cost that Paramount so callously refuses to acknowledge simply so that they can line their pockets with our blood money. Its difficult to estimate just how many people will not get to see this movie “just because” the suits wanted more money. I find this sort of business ethic highly offensive.

I don’t know about you, but I plan on hangin’ on until atleast May 2009 just for the protest of it all. Old h69 is going to make a statement. You can steal my time away from me. But you cannot take this movie from my life experience.

Who’s with me?

=h=
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Btw, I thikn the new pics look cool. It's obviously some sort of mining station though, so I dunno why everything thinks it's an Enterprise shuttle.
 
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