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Rapper Proof killed at Eight Mile club

Friday said:
No. I'm saying since he chose to associate with the type of behavior known to produce murderous behavior in the past, he willingly put himself in the line of fire.

He paid for his choice.

I do not have any sympathy for someone who, for no good reason, steps in front of a bullet.

Do us all a favor and step in front of a bullet you dense fucking cunt. No....shoot Clay then shoot yourself, that would make the world a lot better of a place.
 
Mandi said:
Do us all a favor and step in front of a bullet you dense fucking cunt. No....shoot Clay then shoot yourself, that would make the world a lot better of a place.
A product of the gangsta rap generation, my friends. This illustrates my point extremely well. Thanks, Mandi. ;)
 
oh no...don't lump me in with them. I've never listened to gangsta rap. But then again, Eminem and D12 aren't gangsta rap....there is a difference. My influences come from a rock generation. But you wouldn't know shit about it, because you'd rather listen to that little queer boy Clay sing about touching himself while looking through windows and shit.
 
I miss break dancing.

In the 5th grade.

Wearing parachute pants.

All I could do was the Wave. And I wasn't even very good at that. Oh, and the Worm.

And I didn't have access to a cardboard box big enough to make a difference.

But I still sing "JAM ON IT" in the shower.

So, there ya go.
 
Mandi said:
oh no...don't lump me in with them. I've never listened to gangsta rap. But then again, Eminem and D12 aren't gangsta rap....there is a difference. My influences come from a rock generation. But you wouldn't know shit about it, because you'd rather listen to that little queer boy Clay sing about touching himself while looking through windows and shit.
Eminem isn't gangsta rap?!

Defend the lyrics I posted in this thread.

I dare you.
 
'97 Bonnie and Clyde
by: Eminem

[Eminem]
Baby your da-da loves you (hey)
And I'ma always be here for you (hey) no matter what happens
You're all I got in this world
I would never give you up for nothin
Nobody in this world is ever gonna keep you from me
I love you

C'mon Hai-Hai, we goin to the beach
Grab a couple of toys and let da-da strap you in the car seat
Oh where's mama? She's takin a little nap in the trunk
Oh that smell (whew!) da-da musta runned over a skunk
Now I know what you're thinkin - it's kind of late to go swimmin
But you know your mama, she's one of those type of women
that do crazy things, and if she don't get her way, she'll throw a fit
Don't play with da-da's toy knife, honey, let go of it (no!)
And don't look so upset, why you actin bashful?
Don't you wanna help da-da build a sand castle? (yeah!)
And mama said she wants to show how far she can float
And don't worry about that little boo-boo on her throat
It's just a little scratch - it don't hurt, her was eatin
dinner while you were sweepin and spilled ketchup on her shirt
Mama's messy isn't she? We'll let her wash off in the water
and me and you can pway by ourselves, can't we?

Just the two of us.. (2X)
And when we ride!
Just the two of us.. (2X)
Just you and I!
Just the two of us.. (2X)
And when we ride!
Just the two of us.. (2X)
Just you and I!

See honey.. there's a place called heaven and a place called hell
A place called prison and a place called jail
And da-da's probably on his way to all of em except one
Cause mama's got a new husband and a stepson
And you don't want a brother do ya? (Nah)
Maybe when you're old enough to understand a little better
I'll explain it to ya
But for now we'll just say mama was real real bad
She was bein mean to dad and made him real real mad
But I still feel sad that I put her on time-out
Sit back in your chair honey, quit tryin to climb out (WAHH!)
I told you it's okay HaiHai, wanna ba-ba?
Take a night-night? Nan-a-boo, goo-goo ga-ga?
Her make goo-goo ca-ca? Da-da change your dia-dee
Clean the baby up so her can take a nighty-nighty
Your dad'll wake her up as soon as we get to the water
Ninety-seven Bonnie and Clyde, me and my daughter

Just the two of us.. (2X)
And when we ride!
Just the two of us.. (2X)
Just you and I!
Just the two of us.. (2X)
And when we ride!
Just the two of us.. (2X)
Just you and I!

Wake up sweepy head we're here, before we pway
we're gonna take mama for a wittle walk along the pier
Baby, don't cry honey, don't get the wrong idea
Mama's too sweepy to hear you screamin in her ear (ma-maa!)
That's why you can't get her to wake, but don't worry
Da-da made a nice bed for mommy at the bottom of the lake
Here, you wanna help da-da tie a rope around this rock? (yeah!)
We'll tie it to her footsie then we'll roll her off the dock
Ready now, here we go, on the count of free..
One.. two.. free.. WHEEEEEE! (whoooooshhhhh)
There goes mama, spwashin in the wa-ta
No more fightin wit dad, no more restraining order
No more step-da-da, no more new brother
Blow her kisses bye-bye, tell mama you love her (mommy!)
Now we'll go play in the sand, build a castle and junk
But first, just help dad with two more things out the trunk

Just the two of us.. (2X)
And when we ride!
Just the two of us.. (2X)
Just you and I!
Just the two of us.. (2X)
And when we ride!
Just the two of us.. (2X)
Just you and I!

Just the two of us.. (4X)

[Eminem]
Just me and you baby
is all we need in this world
Just me and you
Your da-da will always be there for you
Your da-da's always gonna love you
Remember that
If you ever need me I will always be here for you
If you ever need anything, just ASK
Da-da will be right there
Your da-da loves you
I love you baby

........Not gansta rap.....

We Can Get Gangsta"

[Project Pat (talkin)]
Hello, hello, hello?

[Boogelou (talkin)]
Pat, whats up man, whats up?

[Project Pat (talkin)]
Boogelou, whats up man?
Man yea man, a nigga done messed me off down here dawg.
I got caught for a weak azz pistol charge. Man dese folkz
gon try and make a nigga do a whole mutha fuckin calendar dawg.
I need ya to send me sumthin.

[Boogelou (talkin)]
I gotcha, what happened?

[Project Pat (talkin)]
Man, I was messin off wit my nigga, man dis shit fucked up!

[Project Pat]
I gotta call from my dawg, Gangsta Fred jus da other day
Met some nigga from da other way, wanna purchase llao (weed)
Said dey wanna get good shit for da low-low
Fred grew-up wit dis nigga by da bayou
Could be da po-po, dats da way my mind think
Thought about da shit for a minute, den I took a drank
Thinkin of a coma, knowin I aint gonna fall
Call up my cousin, Poncho, let em rob, assault
Den he ball off, wit da goods to a ron-de-vou, spot
Handed Fred back his dope, den we split da loot
Rudy-Poo's, always gettin, got, sumthin serious
Infactuated wit da game, very curious
Dat'll kill da cat, cause da game ain't to be told
Quit smokin crack, my nigg-a, it's to be sold
Gettin old, never worries me, I don't giva fuck
?? stayed on mind, call dat nigga up.

[Chorus - 2X]
If you hoes wanna go dere
We can get gangsta, we can get gangsta, we can get gangsta.
(Boom, boom, boom wit da trigga, I can...)
In da streets, we don't play fair
We can get gangsta, we can get gangsta, we can get gangsta.
(Boom, boom, boom wit da trigga, I can...)

[Project Pat]
We can set dis shit up, for a, secluded area
Tell em bring himself, and da duffle-bag carrier
Met him 4am, hit Creek Hill, at a Exxon
In a hot car, tech-9 and a rouger gun
Another nigga came, wit da nigga, dey got out of 'Lac (Caddilac)
Fred slammed da door, crossed da trunk, "Where da cheese at?"
Nigga took a sniff, and he seen dat da shit was straight
Said dat da loot was in his trunk, now I'm thinkin, "Wait."
"What's goin on?", partner took da dope off da trunk
Raisin up my tech, nigga in da trunk, raised da pump
Bullets popped off, Fred caught one, in da chest
Lucky for my nigg', he was wearin bullet proof vest
Shootin tech, but I coulda died, cause it jammed up
Pump at my dome, dat's when Poncho feet had slammed up
Shot da .45, blowin both niggaz azz off
Think we got em down, wit da cheese and da sawed-off.

[Chorus - 2X]
If you hoes wanna go dere
We can get gangsta, we can get gangsta, we can get gangsta.
(Boom, boom, boom wit da trigga, I can...)
In da streets, we don't play fair
We can get gangsta, we can get gangsta, we can get gangsta.
(Boom, boom, boom wit da trigga, I can...)

[Project Pat]
Two weeks later, still knowin bout da fuckery
Move dat a nigga pulled, spot a police watchin me
Watchin me, cause I fit description of a suspect
Pullin me, over, now he askin where my license at
"Officer, I done left my wallet at da house, sir."
Still took me Down-town, cause da police don't care
Down in lower-level, man a simple situation
Turned into, a 72-hour investigation
Ima ex-con, so I don't need a walk through
To dis jail shit, wonderin, "Who did dey talk to?"
Could've been my dawg, not my nigg', dat's a hell naw
Dey done found my tech, but I ain't got shit to tell ya'll
Feelin kinda sick, cause dey finna send me up da river
Couldn't be a snitch, cause I can't tell on my nigga
Tech, didn't match da gun, Woons(police) bout to let me go
Stuck wit da gun charge, violated my parole.

[Chorus - 2X]
If you hoes wanna go dere
We can get gangsta, we can get gangsta, we can get gangsta.
(Boom, boom, boom wit da trigga, I can...)
In da streets, we don't play fair
We can get gangsta, we can get gangsta, we can get gangsta.
(Boom, boom, boom wit da trigga, I can...)
(Boom, boom, boom wit da trigga, I can...)
......Gangsta rap.........


Can you tell the difference? Cause I can
 
I prefer Tori Amos' version of Bonnie & Clyde 97.

But to compare Proof to gansta rap...well, enough about that has already been said. :)
 
The only difference is the colloquialisms used in the two sets of lyrics.

Both songs encourage objectification and violence towards women.

Kinda like your sig there...

Mandi said:
I'm gonna punch you in the ovaries! Right in the baby maker bitch!

Now I understand why those lyrics don't disturb you.
 
Eminem isn't gangsta rap?!?!?!
Both songs encourage objectification and violence towards women.
And?


That doesn't automatically make it gangsta rap. Gangsta rap is the glorification of the thug lifestyle. Big screen Tv's, cars, bitches ect. Eminems lyrics in Bonnie & Clyde ARE NOT GANGSTA RAP. Nowhere near.

There is no way to argue this point because you are flat out WRONG.

No, she didn't. Read my post above. You both are confusing language with content.
Yes she did.
 
Language and content are the difference you divvy....And if you look at Eminems lyrics...only a few of his songs are like that.....Almost ALL gansta rap is like that. Most of Eminems shit is parody.
 
Mandi said:
..only a few of his songs are like that.....

..is like saying. "Aww, I only punched her a few times."

Eminem, D12, Poof, whoever...

They all promote violence against women.

Now, I still have yet to hear anyone defend the lyrics I posted, since Eminem is beyond reproach.

Anyone? Anyone? Buehler?

I will concede one point...that his lyrics aren't gangsta rap. Point conceded. However, when it comes to promoting the degradation of women, his lyrics are exactly the same. And are frighteningly considered mainstream. As witnessed by Mandi's signature.

Now, Mandi, I'm still waiting for that defense...
 
Now, I still have yet to hear anyone defend the lyrics I posted

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Friday said:
They all promote violence against women.

Shows just how much you know.....

Do you know why Eminem makes songs like those? To piss people off. It's his own little way of trolling. Would he really hit a woman, hell no. All of his girlfriends have been asked "has he ever hit you?" And you know what all of them said.........NO....they said he was one of the best boyfriend they'd ever had. So before you start beating that little drum you've got...maybe just maybe you oughta know what the fuck you are talking about.
 
Mandi said:
Shows just how much you know.....

Do you know why Eminem makes songs like those? To piss people off. It's his own little way of trolling. Would he really hit a woman, hell no. All of his girlfriends have been asked "has he ever hit you?" And you know what all of them said.........NO....they said he was one of the best boyfriend they'd ever had. So before you start beating that little drum you've got...maybe just maybe you oughta know what the fuck you are talking about.
Hmm...

So the average kid who is listening to this guy is going to muse to himself, "Well, Eminem is saying this because he wants to piss people off. But it is not a good message for me to follow." The average kid is going to take the time to research this guy's intent, is what you're saying.

Is there a disclaimer on the album that says, "Just kidding?"

Bull and shit. The average kid is going to hear these lyrics, and depending on his environment and role models, take it to heart.

If my boyfriend could write a "song" about slitting my throat, and explaining it to my baby daughter on the way to dropping my corpse in the lake, I wouldn't let the door hit me on the way out. That behavior is part of that person's psyche, no matter how deeply it is embedded. I'd run like hell the other way.
 
Friday said:
Is there a disclaimer on the album that says, "Just kidding?"

Actually, yes yes there is.....like I said...know what you're talking about before you open your fucking blow hole
 
Is there a disclaimer on the album that says, "Just kidding?"

Parental Guidance on the front you ejit.

Fuck that, take drugs, rape sluts
Make fun of gay clubs, men who wear make-up
Get aware, wake up, get a sense of humor
Quit tryin to censor music, this is for your kid's amusement
(The kids!) But don't blame me when lil' Eric jumps off of the terrace
You shoulda been watchin him - apparently you ain't parents

And last week, I seen a Schwarzaneggar movie
where he's shootin all sorts of these motherfuckers with a uzi
I sees three little kids, up in the front row,
screamin "Go," with their 17-year-old Uncle
I'm like, "Guidance - ain't they got the same moms and dads
who got mad when I asked if they liked violence?"
And told me that my tape taught 'em to swear
What about the make-up you allow your 12-year-old daughter to wear?
(Hmm?) So tell me that your son doesn't know any cuss words
when his bus driver's screamin at him, fuckin him up worse
("Go sit the fuck down, you little fuckin prick!")
And fuck was the first word I ever learned
up in the third grade, flippin the gym teacher the bird (Look!)
So read up, about how I used to get beat up
peed on, be on free lunch, and change school every 3 months
 
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