Russell Brand vs Naziboy

The Question

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I'll throw the hounds a bone: If National Socialism actually stood for (and stood up for) National Socialism (as opposed to Ethnic Socialism in ideology and simply Ethnic cleansing in practice) I, for one, would be all for it on a very, very temporary basis.

Multiculturalism has had nothing but destructive and disastrous effects on the Western nations, and a strong dose of Nationalism is a harsh cure, but perhaps the only one with any chance of success.
 

Gurk_MacGuintey

Valhallan Ambassador
Mentalist said:
Having a harsh and damning view of racism and facism is not indicative of "hardcore cultural marxism."

Sorry, Mental, but "multiculturalism" - which was mentioned at least five times in the video - IS cultural marxism of the hardest core. Surely an intelligent and resourceful young man such as yourself is capable of spending the five minutes it would take to research the provenance of the word and concept of "multiculturalism" to discover that the concept is the invention of the "Frankfurt School" of MARXIST philosophy, and was devised as a "social tool" designed to balkanize, destabilize and "deconstruct" the social cohesion of western societies. This is not a secret nor a conspiracy - it is spelled out quite clearly in the writings of the Frankfurt School marxists. (Who were mostly all jews, incidentally, which might be of interest to Mr. Question.)

I don't think that the state of his flat had anything to do with anything.

Then why spend so much camera time panning the mess in the flat? You are either playing dumb or are naive in the extreme to think such imagery lacks propaganda value.

Wasn't staged at all. They only reason the discussion started was because they had the Hitler youth standing in front of them and most in Britain will have the same response when faced with such bullshit, especially if they have seen the yobbo skinhead culture for themselves, which just about everyone who lives outside Mayfair has.

Perhaps I missed something, as the thick limey accents are sometimes difficult for the American ear to decipher, but it seemed altogether too convenient. Brand's prompting seemed too pat, and the answers of the two "regular blokes" - especially the ponytailed guy, seemed rather rehearsed to me.

That gave me a chuckle. Russell Brand is about as far removed from a "typical" anything.

Regarde:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,1799879,00.html

Say what you like about him; or attempt to label him with the negative connotations of 'extreme leftist' values, but the fact of the matter is that Brand is a creative genius and a unique personality ...

Menty, if you were trying to show me that Brand is not a leftist ideologue who was trying to get himself back into the good graces of the liberal media establishment, the last thing you should have tried is to link me to a puff piece in the Guardian.

The GUARDIAN?

I am not ignorant of the British press, Mental, and I am quite familiar with the Guardian, whose masthead should be red rather than blue. In fact, I made quite a splash on the Guardian talk boards a few years ago and got myself banned for, among other things, pointing out that if Karl Marx were still alive and writing his fairy tales in the Bristish Museum he'd be a Guardian subscriber and a regular on the Guardian talk boards.

The piece wasn't meant to be a hard hitting Paxmanesque synopsis of what passes for that sub-sect of culture in Britain, and I didn't post it for that reason. It does highlight the socially weak and emotion driven simplictic views of so many though. And the fact that he is the leader of they youth BNP gives it more credence as opposed to grabbing any young idiot of the street.

Exactly. It was a propaganda piece designed to denigrate the ultra-conservatism of the BNP through mockery by "highlight(ing) the socially weak and emotion-driven simplictic views of so many" who might be attracted to the traditional British values espoused by the BNP.

Even if you just look at the politics that the BNP proposes it's clear that if they were in power the economy would die in Britian and the country would implode, and that's without their facist agenda. It's too late to be throwing extremism at problems anymore. The immigration issues are valid and need to be dealt with. This isn't debated by anyone. Fascim isn't going to solve anybodies problems though and those who actually want it are simply stupid and when you are dealing with such ignorance and absurdity you can no longer reason with it and there is no point in trying.

Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice ~ Barry Goldwater

Incidentally, you commented on every single paragragh in my previous post EXCEPT this one:

"And did you catch that bit of symbolism at the end, Menty? Or was it too subtle for you? The bit where Brand abased himself in supplication at the feet of the Paki wog in shirtsleeves and vest and begged his approval? Is it just me or was this "immigrant minority authority figure" the only male in the whole piece who exuded the slightest hint of testosterone?"

Why is that?

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Red Whacker

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The Question said:
I'll throw the hounds a bone: If National Socialism actually stood for (and stood up for) National Socialism (as opposed to Ethnic Socialism in ideology and simply Ethnic cleansing in practice) I, for one, would be all for it on a very, very temporary basis.

Multiculturalism has had nothing but destructive and disastrous effects on the Western nations, and a strong dose of Nationalism is a harsh cure, but perhaps the only one with any chance of success.

Hmm interesting, if practiced correctly it would and should work.

Would you agree to a military state?
 

The Question

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Red Whacker said:
Hmm interesting, if practiced correctly it would and should work.

Would you agree to a military state?

Not a military state, no. But strong military presence on university campuses, yes. I think the reasons for that should be pretty obvious. ;)
 
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