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SAINTLUCIFER RETURNS!!

BECAUSE THIS ONE IS A BROTHER, MINDFUL OF THAT WITHIN HIM LONGING FOR THE GREATER.

YOU MOCK HIM BECAUSE OF THE ENVY THAT GNAWS AWAY WITHIN YOU.
 
SaintLucifer said:
There are no niggers in your FBI? If you say so. Anyway, you may thank the liberals for his very existence. Do recall that socialism was brought into Canada by Americans. It never existed pre-American exodus.
I nearly responded intelligently to this, but then I remembered that nothing I say will ever get past that thick skull of yours.
 
Cacophony said:
I nearly responded intelligently to this, but then I remembered that nothing I say will ever get past that thick skull of yours.

Translation: 'I have not a clue what I am talking about simply because I am a dumbfuck American. Canadians are clearly smarter than I.'

I do give you kudos for the excellent sidestep here though. Valiant attempt at hiding your stupidity by changing the subject. This was a much simpler tactic than admitting you were owned.
 
۞RACLE said:
BECAUSE THIS ONE IS A BROTHER, MINDFUL OF THAT WITHIN HIM LONGING FOR THE GREATER.

YOU MOCK HIM BECAUSE OF THE ENVY THAT GNAWS AWAY WITHIN YOU.

I could never mock, for he is the only counterpart.
 
SaintLucifer said:

Translation: 'I have not a clue what I am talking about simply because I am a dumbfuck American. Canadians are clearly smarter than I.'

I do give you kudos for the excellent sidestep here though. Valiant attempt at hiding your stupidity by changing the subject. This was a much simpler tactic than admitting you were owned.
The country of Canada has never owned anyone at anything. Your taxes and ridiculously high and your government is way too fucking liberal for my taste. You have universal health care, sure, that's all fine and dandy. But I don't appreciate paying a 15% tax anytime I want to buy something.

Not to mention, your border's a joke. I don't think there's been one time that my family or I haven't snuck something illegal into the country. My parents were searched once with an extra 3 cases of beer in the back (you're only supposed to bring in one per person or you have to pay duty). The customs officer opened up the back and looked in and suggested to them ways they could transport their beer cold.

Your country is beautiful, I'll give you that. But it's only purpose is as America's vacation spot.
 
Let's face it - SaintLucifer aspires to be a Fascist, but he simply hasn't done the homework... mediocre History Channel buff at best.


FASCISM=STANDARDS​
 
Cacophony said:
The country of Canada has never owned anyone at anything. Your taxes and ridiculously high and your government is way too fucking liberal for my taste. You have universal health care, sure, that's all fine and dandy. But I don't appreciate paying a 15% tax anytime I want to buy something.

Not to mention, your border's a joke. I don't think there's been one time that my family or I haven't snuck something illegal into the country. My parents were searched once with an extra 3 cases of beer in the back (you're only supposed to bring in one per person or you have to pay duty). The customs officer opened up the back and looked in and suggested to them ways they could transport their beer cold.

Your country is beautiful, I'll give you that. But it's only purpose is as America's vacation spot.

Our taxes are barely higher than your own silly bitch. What would you expect in a country of only 31 million souls living in a country far larger than your own? You have 310 million taxpayers. You can afford to keep your taxes somewhat lower. We have far more social programs than does the USA. Do not blame me for this liberal idiocy. You brought it here. I should like to point out our greatest expense by far as a country is our universal health-care, yet everyone is eligible for coverage. No tossing bitches like you out into the street because your pussy is runny. That's clearly illegal here. Not so in the USA. You mention a 15% sales tax. Europeans pay more. Your very own taxes are hidden. It should be only an 8% sales tax but the GST was introduced by our government years ago as a deficit-fighter. It was required to fix up the mess made by the quasi-socialist Liberal Party of Canada. It was supposed to be removed by that same Liberal Party. So much money ended up in the government coffers thanks to the GST that they kept it, breaking a major election promise. Even with this GST, many countries in the world pay more taxes for the same thing. Our current ruling Conservatives are busy lowering the GST. They never promised to end the GST, a promise not a single government has ever made during election time, strangely enough. It needs to end, for we have no use for the GST. It was an emergency measure, get rid of the fucking thing. We are wealthy enough as it is, in fact we are wealthier than the USA on a per person basis thanks to their debt which is beyond belief.

You were allowed in with your beer simply because the border patrol does not give a shit. You think they wish to spend all day going through your vehicle simply to ensure you bring in the requisite amount of beer? They have better things to do with their time. If you are white, they will never bother you. If you are nigger, they will make you their bitch. My family has a friend who was pulled over at our border. He car was literally disassembled on the spot when they were looking for drugs and firearms. The reason? He simply LOOKED suspicious. They found nothing.

Canada is no longer your country's vacation spot. Our money is almost worth as much as your own (actually worth more since we actually have gold to back it up,you do not). It was our low dollar that attracted you in the first place. No more. Tourism is down. Seems Americans are heading south to Mexico these days to visit their fellow citizens (the 'Spics) in that country. Canada is now the country that could shut yours down overnight whilst the opposite is untrue. We need only turn the taps to the 'off' position and your entire country will grind to a halt.
 
Lord Raffles said:
Let's face it - SaintLucifer aspires to be a Fascist, but he simply hasn't done the homework... mediocre History Channel buff at best.


FASCISM=STANDARDS​

This guy is either CRANKY himself, or at least CRANKY's butt-buddy. Clearly we have here another dumbshit who mistakenly believes the Nazis were socialist. They were as socialist as the Pope is Jewish.
 
SaintLucifer said:
Our taxes are barely higher than your own silly bitch. What would you expect in a country of only 31 million souls living in a country far larger than your own? You have 310 million taxpayers. You can afford to keep your taxes somewhat lower. We have far more social programs than does the USA. Do not blame me for this liberal idiocy. You brought it here. I should like to point out our greatest expense by far as a country is our universal health-care, yet everyone is eligible for coverage. No tossing bitches like you out into the street because your pussy is runny. That's clearly illegal here. Not so in the USA. You mention a 15% sales tax. Europeans pay more. Your very own taxes are hidden. It should be only an 8% sales tax but the GST was introduced by our government years ago as a deficit-fighter. It was required to fix up the mess made by the quasi-socialist Liberal Party of Canada. It was supposed to be removed by that same Liberal Party. So much money ended up in the government coffers thanks to the GST that they kept it, breaking a major election promise. Even with this GST, many countries in the world pay more taxes for the same thing. Our current ruling Conservatives are busy lowering the GST. They never promised to end the GST, a promise not a single government has ever made during election time, strangely enough. It needs to end, for we have no use for the GST. It was an emergency measure, get rid of the fucking thing. We are wealthy enough as it is, in fact we are wealthier than the USA on a per person basis thanks to their debt which is beyond belief.

You were allowed in with your beer simply because the border patrol does not give a shit. You think they wish to spend all day going through your vehicle simply to ensure you bring in the requisite amount of beer? They have better things to do with their time. If you are white, they will never bother you. If you are nigger, they will make you their bitch. My family has a friend who was pulled over at our border. He car was literally disassembled on the spot when they were looking for drugs and firearms. The reason? He simply LOOKED suspicious. They found nothing.

Canada is no longer your country's vacation spot. Our money is almost worth as much as your own (actually worth more since we actually have gold to back it up,you do not). It was our low dollar that attracted you in the first place. No more. Tourism is down. Seems Americans are heading south to Mexico these days to visit their fellow citizens (the 'Spics) in that country. Canada is now the country that could shut yours down overnight whilst the opposite is untrue. We need only turn the taps to the 'off' position and your entire country will grind to a halt.

IF you had studied your Goebbles, you'd have realized you could have said all that in a few carefully constructed slogans... n00b ass motherfucker.
 
I forgot about the beer exports, silly me. God knows we couldn't live on our pussy American beer.

Yes, your dollar is rising against ours. And yes, we are off the gold standard. But, if I remember correctly, Canada's number one business was in tourism. I know countless people that travel to Canada for weeks out of the year (hell, I'm one of them) who spend thousands of dollars at a time. Tourism to Canada has been slacking off of late, and I know Canadians that have gone into debt because of that fact. Canada needs Americans to hop across that border and spend their money on trivial shit.

I suppose they could up the maple syrup production to make up for the deficit that the decline in tourism is causing, but that would be a shitload more work.
 
Cacophony said:
I forgot about the beer exports, silly me. God knows we couldn't live on our pussy American beer.

Yes, your dollar is rising against ours. And yes, we are off the gold standard. But, if I remember correctly, Canada's number one business was in tourism. I know countless people that travel to Canada for weeks out of the year (hell, I'm one of them) who spend thousands of dollars at a time. Tourism to Canada has been slacking off of late, and I know Canadians that have gone into debt because of that fact. Canada needs Americans to hop across that border and spend their money on trivial shit.

I suppose they could up the maple syrup production to make up for the deficit that the decline in tourism is causing, but that would be a shitload more work.


Why do you even bother? HE CAN'T EVEN BACK UP HIS WILD CLAIMS! HAHAHA, SOME FASCIST!
 
Lord Raffles said:
Why do you even bother? HE CAN'T EVEN BACK UP HIS WILD CLAIMS! HAHAHA, SOME FASCIST!
It's fun to watch him self-pwn over and over and over again :D
 
Cacophony said:
It's fun to watch him self-pwn over and over and over again :D

Why not attack him with values that will truly hurt him? Like the fact that he wishes he studied literature and the english language far more than he should have... perhaps then he could articulate his blab in a form that would make it interesting to read.
 
Lord Raffles said:
Why not attack him with values that will truly hurt him? Like the fact that he wishes he studied literature and the english language far more than he should have... perhaps then he could articulate his blab in a form that would make it interesting to read.
A very valid point that I will take into deep consideration.

Lord knows Luci needs to make his posts more interesting.
 
Lord Raffles said:
IF you had studied your Goebbles, you'd have realized you could have said all that in a few carefully constructed slogans... n00b ass motherfucker.

Might I point out Goebbels was a Propaganda Minister? He claimed the Nazis were socialist in order to win over the hearts of Germans who were intent upon embracing socialism since it was so popular. Hitler had no intention of making Germany into a socialist state. Think about it dumbass. Goebbels, Propaganda Minister. Nazism, propaganda. You just fell for propaganda written in 1932. What is it today? 2007? You were just PWNed by a dead guy who wrote something in 1932? *points at the dumbfuck and laughs*

Many years, my own country has been run by liberals, yet we have less and less freedom than we have ever had before. You are going to tell me these 'liberals' are actually liberal now? Under our Liberal Party of Canada, more and more of our freedoms have been stifled, yet liberalism is all about the OPPOSITE of that.

Socialism was popular in Germany due to the poor economic prospects in that country. They had just gone through a Depression. Socialism became attractive as a result. The Nazis saw this and took advantage of socialism as a means by which they may raise their party's fortunes during the coming elections. It worked perfectly. The masses actually believed the Nazis were socialist. Please remember that Hitler was spying on the National Worker's Party (NAZISM's true name) for the 'right-wingers' who were worried about the socialists. Hitler saw in this party some of his own ideals, but he hated their socialist rhetoric so he joined them. Once in power, he tossed any ideas of 'socialism' into the toilet, just as humanity the world over should toss Americans into the toilet.

I will now show you exactly what it is that you were PWNed by. This PWNed every German in 1932:
 
Josef Goebbels PWNs all of Germany!!! He also PWNs CRANKY, and does so in 1932. CRANKY is PWNed by a dead man.


Those Damned Nazis

by Joseph Goebbels

Why Are We Nationalists?

We are nationalists because we see the nation as the only way to bring all the forces of the nation together to preserve and improve our existence and the conditions under which we live.

The nation is the organic union of a people to protect its life. To be national is to affirm this union in word and deed. To be national has nothing to do with a form of government or a symbol. It is an affirmation of things, not forms. Forms can change, their content remains. If form and content agree, then the nationalist affirms both. If they conflict, the nationalist fights for the content and against the form. One may not put the symbol above the content. If that happens, the battle is on the wrong field and one's strength is lost in formalism. The real aim of nationalism, the nation, is lost.

That is how things are today in Germany. Nationalism has turned into bourgeois patriotism and its defenders are battling windmills. One says Germany and means the monarchy. Another proclaims freedom and means Black-White-Red [the colors of the German flag]. Would our situation today be any different if we replaced the republic with a monarchy and flew the black-white-red flag? The colony would have different wallpaper, but its nature, its content would stay the same. Indeed, things would be even worse, for a facade that conceals the facts dissipates the forces today fighting against slavery.

Explanation: A tied-up Nazi watches while a Jew reading the Berliner Tageblatt, which the Nazis accused of being a Jewish paper, mistreats a Germany chained to the Treaty of Versailles. The Jew is probably supposed to be a journalist, since he is smearing Gemany with his pen. A Black French colonial soldier and another figure (either a policeman or a Polish soldier) assist.

Bourgeois patriotism is the privilege of a class. It is the real reason for its decline. When 30 million are for something and 30 million are against it, things balance out and nothing happens. That is how things are with us. We are the world's Pariah not because we do not have the courage to resist, but rather because out entire national energy is wasted in eternal and unproductive squabbling between the right and the left. Our way only goes downward, and today one can already predict when we will fall into the abyss.

Nationalism is more wide-reaching than internationalism. It sees things as they are. Only he who respects himself can respect others. If as a German nationalist I affirm Germany, how can I hold it against a French nationalist who affirms France? Only when these affirmations conflict in vital ways will there be a power-political struggle. Internationalism cannot undo this reality. Its attempts at proof fail completely. And even when the facts seem to have some validity, nature, blood, the will to life, and the struggle for existence on this hard earth prove the falsity of fine theories.

The sin of bourgeois patriotism was to confound a certain economic form with the national. It connected two things that are entirely different. Forms of the economy, however firm they may seem, are changeable. The national is eternal. If I mix the eternal and the temporal, the eternal will necessarily collapse when the temporal collapses. This was the real cause for the collapse of liberal society. It was rooted not in the eternal, but in the temporal, and when the temporal declined it took the eternal down with it. Today it is only an excuse for a system that brings growing economic misery. That is the only reason why international Jewry organizes the battle of the proletarian forces against both powers, the economy and the nation, and defeat them.

From this understanding, the young nationalism draws its absolute demand. The faith in the nation is a matter for everyone, never a group, a class or an economic clique. The eternal must be distinguished from the temporal. Maintaining a rotten economic system has nothing to do with nationalism, which is an affirmation of the Fatherland. I can love Germany and hate capitalism. Not only can I, I must. Only the annihilation of a system of exploitation carries with it the core of the rebirth of our people.

We are nationalists because as Germans, we love Germany. Because we love Germany, we want to preserve it and fight against those who would destroy it. If a Communist shouts "Down with nationalism!", he means the hypocritical bourgeois patriotism that sees the economy only as a system of slavery. If we make clear to the man of the left that nationalism and capitalism, that is the affirmation of the Fatherland and the misuse of its resources, have nothing to do with each other, indeed that they go together like fire and water, then even as a socialist he will come to affirm the nation, which he will want to conquer.

That is our real task as National Socialists. We were the first to recognize the connections, and the first to begin the struggle. Because we are socialists we have felt the deepest blessings of the nation, and because we are nationalists we want to promote socialist justice in a new Germany.

A young fatherland will rise when the socialist front is firm.

Socialism will become reality when the Fatherland is free.

Why Are We Socialists?

We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state.

Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and regaining German freedom. Socialism, therefore, is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total fighting brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it it is everything, the future, freedom, the fatherland!

The sin of liberal thinking was to overlook socialism's nation-building strengths, thereby allowing its energies to go in anti-national directions. The sin of Marxism was to degrade socialism into a question of wages and the stomach, putting it in conflict with the state and its national existence. An understanding of both these facts leads us to a new sense of socialism, which sees its nature as nationalistic, state-building, liberating and constructive.

The bourgeois is about to leave the historical stage. In its place will come the class of productive workers, the working class, that has been up until today oppressed. It is beginning to fulfill its political mission. It is involved in a hard and bitter struggle for political power as it seeks to become part of the national organism. The battle began in the economic realm; it will finish in the political. It is not merely a matter of wages, not only a matter of the number of hours worked in a day — though we may never forget that these are an essential, perhaps even the most significant part of the socialist platform — but it is much more a matter of incorporating a powerful and responsible class in the state, perhaps even to make it the dominant force in the future politics of the fatherland. The bourgeoisie does not want to recognize the strength of the working class. Marxism has forced it into a straitjacket that will ruin it. While the working class gradually disintegrates in the Marxist front, bleeding itself dry, the bourgeoisie and Marxism have agreed on the general lines of capitalism, and see their task now to protect and defend it in various ways, often concealed.

We are socialists because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces. We have no intention of begging for that right. Incorporating him in the state organism is not only a critical matter for him, but for the whole nation. The question is larger than the eight-hour day. It is a matter of forming a new state consciousness that includes every productive citizen. Since the political powers of the day are neither willing nor able to create such a situation, socialism must be fought for. It is a fighting slogan both inwardly and outwardly. It is aimed domestically at the bourgeois parties and Marxism at the same time, because both are sworn enemies of the coming workers' state. It is directed abroad at all powers that threaten our national existence and thereby the possibility of the coming socialist national state.

Explanation: "The thinking worker comes to Hitler," the caption says. A communist and a socialist are accusing each other of betraying the working class.

Socialism is possible only in a state that is united domestically and free internationally. The bourgeoisie and Marxism are responsible for failing to reach both goals, domestic unity and international freedom. No matter how national and social these two forces present themselves, they are the sworn enemies of a socialist national state.

We must therefore break both groups politically. The lines of German socialism are sharp, and our path is clear.

We are against the political bourgeoisie, and for genuine nationalism!

We are against Marxism, but for true socialism!

We are for the first German national state of a socialist nature!

We are for the National Socialist German Workers Party!

Why a Workers' Party?

Work is not mankind's curse, but his blessing. A man becomes a man through labor. It elevates him, makes him great and aware, raises him above all other creatures. It is in the deepest sense creative, productive, and culture-producing. Without labor, no food. Without food, no life.

The idea that the dirtier one's hands get, the more degrading the work, is a Jewish, not a German, idea. As in every other area, the German first asks how, then what. It is less a question of the position I fill, and more a question of how well I do the duty that God has given me.

We call ourselves a workers' party because we want to rescue the word work from its current definition and give it back its original meaning. Anyone who creates value is a creator, that is, a worker. We refuse to distinguish kinds of work. Our only standard is whether the work serves the whole, or at least does not harm it, or if it is harmful. Work is service. If it works against the general welfare, then it is treason against the fatherland.

Marxist nonsense claimed to free labor, yet it degraded the work of its members and saw it as a curse and disgrace. It can hardly be our goal to abolish labor, but rather to give new meaning and content. The worker in a capitalist state — and that is his deepest misfortune — is no longer a living human being, a creator, a maker.

He has become a machine. A number, a cog in the machine without sense or understanding. He is alienated from what he produces. Labor is for him only a way to survive, not a path to higher blessings, not a joy, not something in which to take pride, or satisfaction, or encouragement, or a way to build character.

We are a workers' party because we see in the coming battle between finance and labor the beginning and the end of the structure of the twentieth century. We are on the side of labor and against finance. Money is the measuring rod of liberalism, work and accomplishment that of the socialist state. The liberal asks: What are you? The socialist asks: Who are you? Worlds lie between.

We do not want to make everyone the same. Nor do we want levels in the population, high and low, above and below. The aristocracy of the coming state will be determined not by possessions or money, but only on the quality of one's accomplishments. One earns merit through service. Men are distinguished by the results of their labor. That is the sure sign of the character and value of a person. The value of labor under socialism will be determined by its value to the state, to the whole community. Labor means creating value, not haggling over things. The soldier is a worker when he bears the sword to protect the national economy. The statesman also is a worker when he gives the nation a form and a will that help it to produce what it needs for life and freedom.

A furrowed brow is as much a sign of labor as a powerful fist. A white collar worker should not be ashamed to claim with pride that of which the manual laborer boasts: labor. The relations between these two groups determine their mutual fate. Neither can survive without the other, for both are members of an organism that they must together maintain if they are to defend and expand their right to exist.

We call ourselves a workers' party because we want to free labor from the chains of capitalism and Marxism. In battling for Germany's future, we freely admit to it, and accept the odium from the liberal bourgeoisie that results. We know that we will succeed in bringing new blessings out of their curses.

God gave the nations territory to grow grain. The seed becomes grain and the grain becomes bread. The middleman of it all is labor.

He who despises labor but accepts its benefits is a hypocrite.

That is the deepest meaning of our movement: it gives things back their original significance, unconcerned that today they may be in danger of sinking into the swamp of a collapsing worldview.

He who creates value works, and is a worker. A movement that wants to free labor is a workers' party.

Therefore we National Socialists call ourselves a worker's party.

When our victorious flags fly before us, we sing:

"We are the army of the swastika,
Raise high the red flags!
We want to clear the way to freedom
For German Labor!"

Why Do We Oppose the Jews?

We oppose the Jews because we are defending the freedom of the German people. The Jew is the cause and beneficiary of our slavery He has misused the social misery of the broad masses to deepen the dreadful split between the right and left of our people, to divide Germany into two halves thereby concealing the true reason for the loss of the Great War and falsifying the nature of the revolution.

Explanation: The caption says "Awakening Germany. You're through! We see behind all your masks." In the cartoon, Jews are concealed as a Christian, a German citizen, a nationalist Jew and an apparently harmless passer by.

The Jew has no interest in solving the German question. He cannot have such an interest. He depends on it remaining unsolved. If the German people formed a united community and won back its freedom, there would be no place any longer for the Jew. His hand is strongest when a people lives in domestic and international slavery, not when it is free, industrious, self-aware and determined. The Jew caused our problems, and lives from them.

That is why we oppose the Jew as nationalists and as socialists. He has ruined our race, corrupted our morals, hollowed out our customs and broken our strength. We owe it to him that we today are the Pariah of the world. He was the leper among as long as we were German. When we forgot our German nature, he triumphed over us and our future.

The Jew is the plastic demon of decomposition. Where he finds filth and decay, he surfaces and begins his butcher's work among the nations. He hides behind a mask and presents himself as a friend to his victims, and before they know it he has broken their neck.

The Jew is uncreative. He produces nothing, he only haggles with products. With rags, clothing, pictures, jewels, grain, stocks, cures, peoples and states. He has somehow stolen everything he deals in. When he attacks a state he is a revolutionary. As soon as he holds power, he preaches peace and order so that he can devour his conquests in comfort.

What does anti-Semitism have to do with socialism? I would put the question this way: What does the Jew have to do with socialism? Socialism has to do with labor. When did one ever see him working instead of plundering, stealing and living from the sweat of others? As socialists we are opponents of the Jews because we see in the Hebrews the incarnation of capitalism, of the misuse of the nation's goods.

What does anti-Semitism have to do with nationalism? I would put the question this way: What does the Jew have to do with nationalism? Nationalism has to do with blood and race. The Jew is the enemy and destroyer of the purity of blood, the conscious destroyer of our race. As nationalists we oppose the Jews because we see the Hebrews as the eternal enemy of our national honor and of our national freedom.

But the Jew, after all, is also a human being. Certainly, none of us doubts that. We only doubt that he is a decent human being. He does not get along with us. He lives by other laws than we do. The fact that he is a human being is not sufficient reason for us to allow him to subject us in inhumane ways. He may be a human being — but what kind of a human being is he! If someone slaps your mother in the face, do you say: "Thank you! He is after all a human being!" That is not a human being, it is a monster. Yet how much worse has the Jew done to our mother Germany, and is still doing today!

There are also white Jews. True, there are scoundrels among us, even though they are Germans, who act in immoral ways against their own racial and blood comrades. But why do we call them white Jews? You use the term to describe something inferior and contemptible. Just as we do. Why do you ask us why we oppose the Jews when you without knowing it are one too?

Anti-Semitism is not Christian. That means that it is Christian to allow the Jews to go on as they are, stripping the skin from our bodies and mocking us. To be a Christian means to love one's neighbor as oneself! My neighbor is my racial and blood brother. If I love him, I have to hate his enemies. He who thinks German must despise the Jews. The one requires the other.

Christ himself saw that love did not always work. When he found the moneychangers in the temple, he did not say: "Children, love one another!" He took up a whip and drove them out.

We oppose the Jews because we affirm the German people. The Jew is our greatest misfortune.

It is not true that we eat Jews for breakfast.

It is true that slowly but surely, he is stealing all that we have.

Things would be different if we behaved as Germans.

Revolutionary Demands

We do not enter parliament to use parliamentary methods. We know that the fate of peoples is determined by personalities, never by parliamentary majorities. The essence of parliamentary democracy is the majority, which destroys personal responsibility and glorifies the masses. A few dozen rogues and crooks run things behind the scenes. Aristocracy depends on accomplishment, the rule of the most able, and the subordination of the less capable to the will of the leadership. Any form of government — no matter how democratic or aristocratic it may outwardly appear — rests on compulsion. The difference is only whether the compulsion is a blessing or a curse for the community.

What we demand is new, decisive, and radical, revolutionary in the truest sense of the word. That has nothing to do with rioting and barricades. It may be that that happens here or there. But it is not an inherent part of the process. Revolutions are spiritual acts. They appear first in people, then in politics and the economy. New people form new structures. The transformation we want is first of all spiritual; that will necessarily change the way things are.

This revolutionary act is beginning to be visible in us. The result is a new type of person visible to the knowing eye: the National Socialist. Consistent with his spiritual attitude, the National Socialist makes uncompromising demands in politics. There is no if and when for him, only an either — or.

He demands:

The return of German honor. Without honor, one has no right to life. A nation that has pawned its honor has pawned its bread. Honor is the foundation of any people's community. Losing our honor is the true cause of the loss of our freedom.

In place of a slave colony, we want a restored German national state. The state is not an end in itself for us, but rather a means to an end. The true end is the race, the sum of all the living, creative forces of the people. The structure that today calls itself the German republic is not a way to maintain our racial inheritance. It has become an end in itself with no real connection to the people and their needs. We want to abolish the slave colony and replace it with a people's state in freedom.

Want work and bread for every productive national and blood comrade. Pay should be according to accomplishment. That means more pay for German workers! That will stop the senseless fighting in which we engage today.

First provide housing and food for the people, then pay reparations! No democrat, no republican, has the right to complain about this demand, for it was first raised by a banner carrier of November Germany [the Weimar Republic, beginning in November 1918]. We only want to make the slogan a reality.

Provide essentials first! First we must meet the critical needs of the people, then we can produce luxury goods. Provide work for those willing to work! Give the farmers land! The German foreign policy that today sells what we have at below-market rates must be completely transformed and must focus radically on the German need for space, drawing the necessary power-political conclusions.

Peace among productive workers! Each should do his duty for the good of the whole community. The state then has the responsibility of protecting the individual, guaranteeing him the fruits of his labor. The people's community must not be a mere phrase, but a revolutionary achievement following from the radical carrying out of the basic life needs of the working class.

A ruthless battle against corruption! A war against exploitation, freedom for the workers! The elimination of all economic-capitalist influences on national policy.

A solution to the Jewish question! We call for the systematic elimination of foreign racial elements from public life in every area. There must be a sanitary separation between Germans and non-Germans on racial grounds exclusively, not on nationality or even religious belief.

Down with democratic parliamentarianism! Establish a parliament based on occupations which determines production. Policies will be determined by a political body that earns is place by the laws of strength and selection.

The return of loyalty and faith in economic life. The complete reversal of the injustice that has robbed millions of Germans of their possessions.

The right of personality before that of the mob. Germans always will have preference before foreigners and Jews.

A battle against the destructive poison of international Jewish culture! A strengthening of German forces and German customs. The elimination of corrupt Semitic principles and racial decay.

The death penalty for crimes against the people! The gallows for profiteers and usurers!

An uncompromising program implemented by men who will implement it passionately. No slogans, only living energy.

That is what we demand!
 
Watch how Luci, in typical text-book manner, changes the point entirely to a subject he knows everything about (but has nothing to do with the topic in question).

Lord Raffles said:
IF you had studied your Goebbles, you'd have realized you could have said all that in a few carefully constructed slogans... n00b ass motherfucker.

Let's look at Goebbels:

Goebbels earned a doctorate of philosophy from Heidelberg University in 1921, on the basis of a doctoral thesis on 18th century romantic drama; he then went on to work as a journalist and later a bank clerk and caller on the stock exchange. He also wrote novels and plays, but they were refused by publishers.

It's fair to say that Goebbels, as an individual, could probably knock up a good slogan or two based on his personal life experience - slogans that would sum up an entire world view, philosophy or argument with no more than four to six words.

You on the other hand waste far too much time typing on the keyboard... even now I can take a perverse delight in the fact that I've copied and pasted most of this article, but you have no idea where (and if you bothered to look and point it out, it would prove that you spent more time over me than was necessary...).

Now let's look at your response:

SaintLucifer said:

Might I point out Goebbels was a Propaganda Minister? He claimed the Nazis were socialist in order to win over the hearts of Germans who were intent upon embracing socialism since it was so popular. Hitler had no intention of making Germany into a socialist state. Think about it dumbass. Goebbels, Propaganda Minister. Nazism, propaganda. You just fell for propaganda written in 1932. What is it today? 2007? You were just PWNed by a dead guy who wrote something in 1932? *points at the dumbfuck and laughs*

Many years, my own country has been run by liberals, yet we have less and less freedom than we have ever had before. You are going to tell me these 'liberals' are actually liberal now? Under our Liberal Party of Canada, more and more of our freedoms have been stifled, yet liberalism is all about the OPPOSITE of that.

Socialism was popular in Germany due to the poor economic prospects in that country. They had just gone through a Depression. Socialism became attractive as a result. The Nazis saw this and took advantage of socialism as a means by which they may raise their party's fortunes during the coming elections. It worked perfectly. The masses actually believed the Nazis were socialist. Please remember that Hitler was spying on the National Worker's Party (NAZISM's true name) for the 'right-wingers' who were worried about the socialists. Hitler saw in this party some of his own ideals, but he hated their socialist rhetoric so he joined them. Once in power, he tossed any ideas of 'socialism' into the toilet, just as humanity the world over should toss Americans into the toilet.

I will now show you exactly what it is that you were PWNed by. This PWNed every German in 1932:

Sorry for saying this, but what the fuck did any of this have to do with Socialism? I thought we were on slogans. What are you? Some sort of Socialist proto-Fascist that studies the Nationalist Brown Shirt wing of the N.S.D.A.P? What the fuck did any of this have to do with Socialism?

I bet you would have sucked off Ernst Rhom too, as he was a fag just like you.
 
SaintLucifer said:
I love Lord Raffles… He has thought through everything. Such a sparkling mind can be my leader. I bow to the greater one, the cyber genius. Lord Raffles, I love you because you are both great and simple at the same time. What one calls a genius.

Awwww... :hang:
 
Lord Raffles said:
Watch how Luci, in typical text-book manner, changes the point entirely to a subject he knows everything about (but has nothing to do with the topic in question).



Let's look at Goebbels:

Goebbels earned a doctorate of philosophy from Heidelberg University in 1921, on the basis of a doctoral thesis on 18th century romantic drama; he then went on to work as a journalist and later a bank clerk and caller on the stock exchange. He also wrote novels and plays, but they were refused by publishers.

It's fair to say that Goebbels, as an individual, could probably knock up a good slogan or two based on his personal life experience - slogans that would sum up an entire world view, philosophy or argument with no more than four to six words.

You on the other hand waste far too much time typing on the keyboard... even now I can take a perverse delight in the fact that I've copied and pasted most of this article, but you have no idea where (and if you bothered to look and point it out, it would prove that you spent more time over me than was necessary...).

Now let's look at your response:



Sorry for saying this, but what the fuck did any of this have to do with Socialism? I thought we were on slogans. What are you? Some sort of Socialist proto-Fascist that studies the Nationalist Brown Shirt wing of the N.S.D.A.P? What the fuck did any of this have to do with Socialism?

I bet you would have sucked off Ernst Rhom too, as he was a fag just like you.

The very fact you equate socliasm with fascism clearly points out your lack of intellect. Yes, I am a fascist on a site riddled with socialists.
 
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