Should Karma be scrapped?

[BlazerBoy]

Civil discussion? You started the conversation with me in this thread on a real bad note. Bottom line is this. I'm real happy you are so gung-ho on trying to make all these helpful suggestions, but its a bit strange that a majority of them are needed mostly because of DLA. MM rightly pointed out that a few of you actually matured into the type that contribute positively to the board now, but before you and your "associates" come rushing in here demanding concessions, please try to remember there were dozens more of us posting in relative peace, without any of these problems, long before all the juvenilish events of the latter half of last year started. If we need to have any civil discussions, thats the direction we should approach it from.

 

[MessengerX]

Civil discussion? You started the conversation with me in this thread on a real bad note.

No. You started it with me on a really bad note.

However, at the first sign that VKD or one of his cronies is yet again abusing the system as some sort of organized sustained cyber-terroristic attack, I will abuse the system so badly, it will have to be scrapped completely from the board within days.

Bottom line is this. I'm real happy you are so gung-ho on trying to make all these helpful suggestions, but its a bit strange that a majority of them are needed mostly because of DLA.

"I will abuse the system so badly, it will have to be scrapped completely from the board within days."

Karma stockpiling was going on for a while. If not us, the board might have been under the control of someone less pleasant, who would strive for nothing less than Total Karma Domination.

MM rightly pointed out that a few of you actually matured into the type that contribute positively to the board now, but before you and your "associates" come rushing in here demanding concessions,

Demanding concessions? This is only a poll to find out of TKers even want Karma restored.

please try to remember there were dozens more of us posting in relative peace, without any of these problems, long before all the juvenilish events of the latter half of last year started. If we need to have any civil discussions, thats the direction we should approach it from.

VKD negged Gagh and that was it. Of course, everyone thought they could neg the DLA into submission, but the only thing they succeeded in doing was to agitate the DLA.

Then, the TKDL was created and handed to you for the purpose of 'defending' Troll Kingdom. More agitation, and dirty tricks from both sides. I'm sorry, but you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

[BlazerBoy]

BLAH BLAH BLAH! BULLSHIT BULLSHIT PREEN PREEN PRATTLE PRATTLE.



Your "DLA" is a joke, and your attempts to legitimize it only call your own poorly concieved persona into question. If I wanted to play word games and trade bullshit, I'd go dig up Wordin. At least with him, everyone goes home with a laugh at the end of the day. This is laughable in its own right, I suppose.

 

[MessengerX]

BLAH BLAH BLAH! BULLSHIT BULLSHIT PREEN PREEN PRATTLE PRATTLE.

Is this what you meant by civil discussion?

Your "DLA"

It is the people's DLA!

is a joke, and your attempts to legitimize it only call your own poorly concieved persona into question. If I wanted to play word games and trade bullshit, I'd go dig up Wordin.

Why give up on the discourse?

At least with him, everyone goes home with a laugh at the end of the day.

Excuse me, but Wordinterrupted seems like a very intelligent young man. Try reading what he posts.

This is laughable in its own right, I suppose.

You mean your response?

 

[Sarek]

I was speaking to the silly faux-troll, not you, Sarek. You'd know when I was talking to you.

LOL. Okay.

 

[BlazerBoy]

Do you realize how sad, yet at the same time, hilarious how you and your "crew" stick to these pathetic textbook personas? I mean, for gods sake, even Jillian knew when to let her actual personality shine through sometimes and actaully garner something other than just scorn here. Can you imagine posting at a board where you are virtually despised by everyone other than your duals? I mean, some of you are so retarded, you actually have arguments...between your own duals. Every three seconds another of you claim to have wrested control of the group, and by far, your greatest achievement, Val Kilmers Dick himself, so poorly executed, I almost thought it was fucking tmm3k for half a month, until VKD's true identity literally was handed to me on a platter in a PM box. What a joke! Legs to stand on? The very notion that any one of you would have a hand in shaping board policy here is by far, the greatest New Years joke this domain has ever hosted.

 

[MessengerX]

Do you realize how sad and yet so funny at the same time how you and your "crew" stick to these pathetic textbook personas? I mean, for gods sake, even Jillian knew when to let her actual personality shine through sometimes and actaully garner something other than just scorn here.

Are you trying to tell me that you dislike me more than Jillian? I'm surprised. I don't think we've been as much of a headache as her. You shouldn't compare me to her.

Can you imagine posting at a board where you are virtually despised by everyone other than your duals?

Virtually. Besides, duals don't have feelings.

I mean, some of you are so retarded, you actually have arguments...between your own duals.

I never said Sarek was one of my duals. You should pay more attention.

Every three seconds another of you claim to have wrested control of the group, and the by far, your greatest achievement, Val Kilmers Dick himself, so poorly executed, I almost thought it was fucking tmm3k for half a month, until VKD's true identity literally was handed to me on a platter in a PM box.

Nonsense. All true DLA soldiers know that Kilmer is Lord and Master. And President.

VKD is a mystery freedom fighter. Stop pretending you know who he truly is.

The very notion that any one of you would have a hand in shaping board policy here is by far, the greatest New Years joke this domain has ever hosted.

I never said we shaped policy. We work for positive change. We are lobbyists.

 

[BlazerBoy]

Well, get back to your lobbying, then. The goodwill and positive change you've engendered thus far is just...staggering.

 

[Sarek]

I never said Sarek was one of my duals. You should pay more attention.

Well fuck that. You're off my christmas list.

 

[MessengerX]

Well, get back to your lobbying, then. The goodwill and positive change you've engendered thus far is just...staggering.

Not everything we do is public. We've pointed out some loopholes in software, rather than exploiting them.

Go in peace.

Well fuck that. You're off my christmas list.

I didn't mean to seem condescending.

 

[Sarek]

Hey, I'm many things. Prick, ass, bastard, you name it. I am not however, not a dual. Sarek is an original to this site. He has been I and I have been him since I joined the first TK board years ago.

 

[BlazerBoy]

Thats the main thing that pisses me off with those guys. Nothing worse then the new guy rolling into town thinking he knows best how to "fix" something that was working fine before they arrived. Henoch got mad at us "old-timers" because we didn't instantly yield to suggestions of sudden radical changes to the core board structure. People like me and you have literaly been sitting here since the very beginning, watching things change for the better and for the worse. There is a way to effect real change to the board, and this "DLA" just doesn't get the way things work. Its like watching a 6 year old try to take over his Pre-School class.

 

[Sarek]

I can safetly say we have been there and it is part of the reason this site exists.

 

[Mentalist]

MessengerX is a goon. And he is always getting his lickle cotton socks in a muddle, but OMG HE HAS TEH PERPOSE WITH TEH DLA THAT HAVE NEVER DONE TEH ONE THING OTHER THAN NEG A FEW PEOPLE THEN GET TEH OWNED BY HENOCH LOL! OMG!

 

[Gagh]

Karma has returned. We stand at an important crossroads. Nay, we stand at an intersection. Certain posters used karma to bully and irritate others into submission before. When those trampled upon fought back, everyone was outraged.

'Outraged' is too strong a word. As far as I know, you grouped together to knock me down a few pegs when I wasn't even here to see it. By the time I came back, the whole silly function had been withdrawn due you you little band's abuse of it, with you all constantly telling people I left due to you.

We have chosen not to take advantage of the window of opportunity available to us to neg everyone who is not DLA. Their lack of karma would ensure our monopoly on positive karma. Remember, we are many.

This silly crap really matters to you, doesn't it? I only have to read tripe like this to know how easy it was to piss you all off before you 'formed'. A few negatives, and you were the ones infuriated enough to retaliate as if it mattered.

Just listen to how you sound - constantly telling yourselves you matter, and carry some weight. You're idiots who hide behind dual accounts with the Karma thing as your only tool. By the way - I'm still here. Why is that?

Some posters also lamented the loss of "being able to leave little comments" in the posts of others. The trend of replying to comments as though they were posts clutters up threads. Sadly, posters have no other recourse but to reply to an irritating comment and contribute to the chaos, and it is clear that the recent additions to the group of administrators here are intent on not letting our beloved Troll Kingdom degrade into the spamming we saw with the short-lived attempt of "pwning" this internet forum.

As far as I am concerned, the whole function is not needed. It makes people lazy, preferring to dump a comment in a little box rather than post. Whenever somebody replies to the comment, they are accused of caring about Karma. Not so - they want to reply.

It is in this diplomat's opinion that Troll Kingdom has no need for gimmicks. This diplomat does not miss Karma Whoring threads, or having to correct his custom title every 2 minutes.

On this, we agree.

With no karma to fuel vendettas and no 'sniper' comments available disrupting threads, members of TK put more effort into the words they wrote here.

Precisely.

The Karma function is totally uneeded. We managed to thrive for nearly three years before it was hacked in. What purpose does it serve on a troll board? Chaos is good sometimes, but not when it dissolves the board as we knew it to a hopeless mash of spam. Maybe I'm to blame, but so what? If it proves that function has no true home here, so be it.