'SICKO' PROVES AMERICANS ARE STUPID

[SaintLucifer]

I had just watched the documentary 'Sicko' by that useless fatass, Michael Moore. Sadly enough, he revealed much of what I, as a Canadian, already knew, AND MUCH MORE. I was staggered by how much the USA is run by the fucking corporations. To actively seek out any excuse to deny a fucking US citizen because of 'pre-existing conditions', most of which were invented by the insurer anyway? What the fuck kind of people are you fucking Americans? You should all hide your fucking heads in utter shame! What gall! What utter bullshit to claim title as the greatest nation on earth! Your fucking hospitals, tossing people onto the fucking streets because they do not have insurance, AND to deny even those that DO have health care coverage! What utter unmitigated gall! The lot of you should be lined up and shot! Things are so bad in your shithole of a country that your own citizens are sneaking into my country and demanding we give you medical care, yet you fucking bitch when the goddamned motherfuckng 'spics from Mexico sneak across your common border to do the same thing! What fucking hypocrisy!

 

[SaintLucifer]

*ROTFLMAO @ the American woman who, in the documentary 'Sicko', purchases for 5 cents US the medication for which she pays $120 in the USA* That had me laughing so fucking hard.

 

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[Archibald Nixon]

I had just watched the documentary 'Sicko' by that useless fatass, Michael Moore. Sadly enough, he revealed much of what I, as a Canadian, already knew, AND MUCH MORE. I was staggered by how much the USA is run by the fucking corporations. To actively seek out any excuse to deny a fucking US citizen because of 'pre-existing conditions', most of which were invented by the insurer anyway? What the fuck kind of people are you fucking Americans? You should all hide your fucking heads in utter shame! What gall! What utter bullshit to claim title as the greatest nation on earth! Your fucking hospitals, tossing people onto the fucking streets because they do not have insurance, AND to deny even those that DO have health care coverage! What utter unmitigated gall! The lot of you should be lined up and shot! Things are so bad in your shithole of a country that your own citizens are sneaking into my country and demanding we give you medical care, yet you fucking bitch when the goddamned motherfuckng 'spics from Mexico sneak across your common border to do the same thing! What fucking hypocrisy!

 

[jack]

This thread makes my dick itch.

 

[Weevil]

You believe Moore speaks for Americans?

 

[Lilac]

Only for the far left.

Sadly, this is one of the few times where Moore hits the issue head on, even if it's distorted to fit his views. The American health system is a fucking mess, and the health-care reforms going through the legislature are... lacking.

My wallet shouldn't be raped to the point where I'm put permanently in debt just for a trip to the hospital, or worse, to the doctor. Related, the costs for college are disturbing. I'm $21k in the hole for the last year and a half of school. I paid out of pocket to that point, but working and going to school didn't make it that far. And that's a public, state university.

In order to have a chance succeed and get a chance to get a good job, I need to go to school. To go to school, I need to pay an arm and a leg. I got my degree, but I can't even get a job in my field: Geography. Part of it is certainly the economy, but there is an inherent ridiculousness here when there are jobs outside of this country, but I can't apply because I've no means of even getting there; and in those countries (like Norway), the State pays for tuition.

America, land of the great. Yeah.

 

[SaintLucifer]

You believe Moore speaks for Americans?

Yes, I do. When his mere 'documentaries' earn him millions, then the American people love him. The ONLY people who hate him are those who have a vested interest in those things against which he speaks. Sure, he is a fatass blowhard, but much of what he says is true.

 

[SaintLucifer]

Only for the far left.

Sadly, this is one of the few times where Moore hits the issue head on, even if it's distorted to fit his views. The American health system is a fucking mess, and the health-care reforms going through the legislature are... lacking.

My wallet shouldn't be raped to the point where I'm put permanently in debt just for a trip to the hospital, or worse, to the doctor. Related, the costs for college are disturbing. I'm $21k in the hole for the last year and a half of school. I paid out of pocket to that point, but working and going to school didn't make it that far. And that's a public, state university.

In order to have a chance succeed and get a chance to get a good job, I need to go to school. To go to school, I need to pay an arm and a leg. I got my degree, but I can't even get a job in my field: Geography. Part of it is certainly the economy, but there is an inherent ridiculousness here when there are jobs outside of this country, but I can't apply because I've no means of even getting there; and in those countries (like Norway), the State pays for tuition.

America, land of the great. Yeah.

Ah, the communist speaks. Quit your whining, and pay off your fucking debt, moron. If your college/university system is anything like ours, which I doubt very much because you Americans are too fucking stupid, you do NOT pay your true tuition costs. They are SUBSIDISED by the fucking state, IF your system is the same as that in Canada. That means yes, you are in debt, but so is the STATE, paying for YOUR education. If this is the case, then you need to quit your whining, shut the fuck up and pay off your debts. You wish to end up payin fucking cupcakeERS to play football at your university? Oh, wait. Do never mind. You ALREADY do that, AND they laugh at you after the education YOU paid for them to enjoy ended up earning them MILLIONS of dollars when they turn pro. If you do adopt the Norwegian system, and a cupcakeER, who plays for a university, at taxpayer expense, would you receive any of that money back when the cupcakeER turns pro in a professional league? No, he would laugh his fat, fugly monkey lips at you as you continue to watch your fucking taxes go through the roof, BECAUSE OF HIM. Think for a moment, you stupid fuck. Your university system is not compatible with socialism. Fucking commie 'tard!

 

[SaintLucifer]

Only for the far left.

Sadly, this is one of the few times where Moore hits the issue head on, even if it's distorted to fit his views. The American health system is a fucking mess, and the health-care reforms going through the legislature are... lacking.

My wallet shouldn't be raped to the point where I'm put permanently in debt just for a trip to the hospital, or worse, to the doctor. Related, the costs for college are disturbing. I'm $21k in the hole for the last year and a half of school. I paid out of pocket to that point, but working and going to school didn't make it that far. And that's a public, state university.

In order to have a chance succeed and get a chance to get a good job, I need to go to school. To go to school, I need to pay an arm and a leg. I got my degree, but I can't even get a job in my field: Geography. Part of it is certainly the economy, but there is an inherent ridiculousness here when there are jobs outside of this country, but I can't apply because I've no means of even getting there; and in those countries (like Norway), the State pays for tuition.

America, land of the great. Yeah.

Moore? Far left? Bwaaaaaaaahhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

 

[Weevil]

Yes, I do. When his mere 'documentaries' earn him millions, then the American people love him. The ONLY people who hate him are those who have a vested interest in those things against which he speaks.

Moore making millions doesn't say anything. Not all places have a measly population of 30 million, and making millions in the US is not a big deal.

Sure, he is a fatass blowhard, but much of what he says is true.

Perhaps, but what he says is basically "This corrupt corporatist environment is taking advantage of people. Therefor, the solution is Communism."

 

[SaintLucifer]

Moore making millions doesn't say anything. Not all places have a measly population of 30 million, and making millions in the US is not a big deal.

Perhaps, but what he says is basically "This corrupt corporatist environment is taking advantage of people. Therefor, the solution is Communism."

Moore can only make millions if he has many followers, which he does. If people did not believe in his bullshit, they would not pay to see it, so they must believe.

He is blaming the corporations for something that is the fault of your 'elected' government. You people ALLOW this, by constantly voting in governments that like to suck corporate cock. You do not force your government to enact legislation to protect the people from unscrupulous corporations. Remember, the STATE pays for many of your hospitals, yet the government allows them to be run by private corporations without any overseer. Nowhere does Michael Moore state 'communism' is the answer. He does not even hint at it, you fucking moron. That's like saying Canada is a communist country, which it is not even close to resembling.

Just to educate you, communism takes FAR MORE ADVANTAGE of the people than does corporatism, you stupid fuck. Communism's sole raison-d'etre is the complete assimilation of the people into government, which is far, far worse. The people become lackeys of the State.

 

[SaintLucifer]

I am curious. Why do Americans bitch about private health insurers, but they do not demand that the auto insurance industry, or home insurance industry, be nationalised. Hypocritical, no?

 

[Weevil]

Moore can only make millions if he has many followers, which he does. If people did not believe in his bullshit, they would not pay to see it, so they must believe.

Poor logic. He has many followers that do not comprise most of the people.

He is blaming the corporations for something that is the fault of your 'elected' government. You people ALLOW this, by constantly voting in governments that like to suck corporate cock.

Yes.

You do not force your government to enact legislation to protect the people from unscrupulous corporations.

Spoken like a true leftist. There are already laws that make the sort of fraud corporations engage in illegal. The government sets up agencies that are supposed to protect people, usually led by people already friendly to corporations, or now in a position to demand tribute from them to overlook their mischief. Bernie Madoff, Enron, all of those, could not have done what they did if not for government assistance.

Remember, the STATE pays for many of your hospitals, yet the government allows them to be run by private corporations without any overseer. Nowhere does Michael Moore state 'communism' is the answer. He does not even hint at it, you fucking moron. That's like saying Canada is a communist country, which it is not even close to resembling.

We were talking about Moore's attitude in general. Remember?

"When his mere 'documentaries' earn him millions, then the American people love him. "

Just to educate you, communism takes FAR MORE ADVANTAGE of the people than does corporatism, you stupid fuck. Communism's sole raison-d'etre is the complete assimilation of the people into government, which is far, far worse. The people become lackeys of the State.

I didn't say I supported it.

 

[SaintLucifer]

Poor logic. He has many followers that do not comprise most of the people.

Yes.

Spoken like a true leftist. There are already laws that make the sort of fraud corporations engage in illegal. The government sets up agencies that are supposed to protect people, usually led by people already friendly to corporations, or now in a position to demand tribute from them to overlook their mischief. Bernie Madoff, Enron, all of those, could not have done what they did if not for government assistance.




We were talking about Moore's attitude in general. Remember?

"When his mere 'documentaries' earn him millions, then the American people love him. "

I didn't say I supported it.

Spoken like a true leftist? Uh, when a government forces a corporation to do its bidding, that's FASCISM, you daft shit. Corporations should be free to exist, they should be free to make profit, but NOT in the health industry. That's a necessity. If corporations could provide services without need of profit, under State rule, then there would be no problems. This is my beloved fascism. You Americans should learn to adopt it.

In a 'leftist' medicare system, corporations would not exist, you dumb shit.

 

[Weevil]

Spoken like a true leftist? Uh, when a government forces a corporation to do its bidding, that's FASCISM, you daft shit. Corporations should be free to exist, they should be free to make profit, but NOT in the health industry. That's a necessity. If corporations could provide services without need of profit, under State rule, then there would be no problems. This is my beloved fascism. You Americans should learn to adopt it.

In a 'leftist' medicare system, corporations would not exist, you dumb shit.

When you say "You do not force your government to enact legislation to protect the people from unscrupulous corporations," it's hard to interpret another way.

Corporations should be free to exist, they should be free to make profit, but NOT in the health industry. That's a necessity.

Can you back this up? And I'm not talking about a Mooresque strawman that pretends heavy-handed regulation and corporatist policies is capitalism.

Competition helps create better products at lower prices. Everyone has a cellphone, everyone has Internet. Why has this not occurred in medicine? Who knows/cares and bothers to ask that? The magic medicine goblin makes it impossible for the service of receiving health care to be treated like any other service?

Yes. It does.

 

[SaintLucifer]

When you say "You do not force your government to enact legislation to protect the people from unscrupulous corporations," it's hard to interpret another way.


Can you back this up? And I'm not talking about a Mooresque strawman that pretends heavy-handed regulation and corporatist policies is capitalism.

Competition helps create better products at lower prices. Everyone has a cellphone, everyone has Internet. Why has this not occurred in medicine? Who knows/cares and bothers to ask that? The magic medicine goblin makes it impossible for the service of receiving health care to be treated like any other service?

Yes. It does.

It is so simple I cannot believe you are too stupid to see it. If the medical insurers actually 'covered' people, rather than seeking excuses not to do so, the system might actually work. BUT, the State needs to intervene, as they have here in Ontario. Seems auto insurance premiums, enacted by PRIVATE insurers, were getting out of hand. So, what does the Ontario government do? They threaten the insurance CORPORATIONS with dissolution of their fucking industry by telling them that perhaps a provincially-run insurance industry might be the thing to do. My own premiums dropped radically. There can be no further proof that fascism works, and what the Ontario government did was clearly fascism. The corporations were pissed, but too bad, especially when, as they were raising premiums, their profits were reaching record levels. The Ontario government reminded the corporations of this little fact. They were told, 'lower the premiums, or die'. You surely can do the same thing with the healthcare corporations. It is your own government corruption that has bled your country dry. Remember, not only even in a democracy, but ESPECIALLY in a democracy, the government exists TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE. The fact the corporations have a free hand proves you have unfettered capitalism, which is exactly what Hitler railed against, and he, with the situation currently at hand in the USA, has been proven 100% correct! He advocated capitalism UNDER GOVERNMENT CONTROL. You Americans would do well to learn from him. Do you honestly think a corporation would fuck a Nazi government? Not a chance. They will provide the people with a service, make some profit, and LIKE IT! The current situation in the USA is YOUR FAULT, not the corporations. YOU have given them the free hand, not them. YOU have told them 'please, go ahead. Make a profit at our expense! That's what makes the mighty USA!' Fuck, if your people were like this in 1776, my family would be ruling in Washington under the British flag today.

 

[Lilac]

Ah, the communist speaks. Quit your whining, and pay off your fucking debt, moron. If your college/university system is anything like ours, which I doubt very much because you Americans are too fucking stupid, you do NOT pay your true tuition costs. They are SUBSIDISED by the fucking state, IF your system is the same as that in Canada. That means yes, you are in debt, but so is the STATE, paying for YOUR education. If this is the case, then you need to quit your whining, shut the fuck up and pay off your debts.
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Tell you what: if you know anyone looking for geographers, let me know. A job in my field would greatly help pay off my debts.

Oh, and the state down here doesn't subsidize shit for education if it can manage.

 

[Mentalist]

I didn't read past the first post. I just found it amusing that anyone still bothers watching anything MM puts out. What total dickery is this?

 

[SaintLucifer]

Tell you what: if you know anyone looking for geographers, let me know. A job in my field would greatly help pay off my debts.

Oh, and the state down here doesn't subsidize shit for education if it can manage.

You lazy, stupid fuck! If you must pay off your debts, WHY must you have a job in your field? Just take any job, even at MickeyD's if necessary, like EVERYONE ELSE does, shut the fuck up and pay your debts! WTF is wrong with you Americans? No wonder your fucking economy collapsed!

I do not believe for a moment your universities are self-sustaining.