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Star Trek Discovery

I found it hard to get into B5 or DS9. Then again, I only tried watching both when they originally aired, and I was a kid/teen with a short(er) attention span. The few times I've seen Ds9 since it was very late at night when anything I watched would put me to sleep. I still lack the motivation to try them again. I more of a Trek movie fan than the shows. Considering I've enjoyed the movies even the bad ones giving Ds9 another chance, and enjoying it doesn't seem like a stretch.
 
Actually it's true of most TNG-era shows. First season bad, but then they shake the bugs out, switch the chick roles around and eventually get it right.
 
Troublesome quote: "We're set in the Prime universe 10 years before Captain Kirk." So far, so good. "We have the opportunity to bridge the gap between the Enterprise (presumably meaning Star Trek: Enterprise) and the original series..." also perfect... "...and really help us redefine the visual style of Star Trek."

No. No. No. You idiot. If it's set in the Prime universe and you want to 'bridge the gap' between Star Trek: Enterprise and TOS, you need to not be trying to 'redefine' anything, you fucking moron.

You're setting yourself up to play by a set of established rules, in this case an established visual aesthetic. Don't tell us you're going to do it and then in the same damn sentence tell us you're not going to do it. Pick one.

Either you're going to 'bridge the gap' or you're going to 'redefine'. You cannot do both.
 
I'm guessing the bridge wont look like this.

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It sure as hell won't look like anything that can be believed as a predecessor to either of those, even though that's part of what they're selling.

Telling you, this is going to be Star Trek: Enterprise 2.0. A prequel just as far as it takes to get people to tune in, and not one millisecond longer than that. Because they're fucking stupid and refuse to learn.

Meanwhile, Star Trek: Axanar, which promised to actually be a prequel and made a cool million with that promise -- they stomped that into the dirt without learning the lesson: We want an actual prequel, and we will support one if they'd just stop fucking around with "reimagining" shit and give us one.

We want Pike-era designs.

We want a production team to follow the visual aesthetic of the era; a team with some actual skill and love for the franchise can make that aesthetic work. And we want that, to the tune of privately funding a million plus cold, hard American dollars -- ourselves -- to see it get done.

CBS didn't learn shit, though. They stomped out the product we actually wanted so they could puke another bait-and-switch up on us.
 
It's just going to be shit, accept it. I'm not sure why "Star Trek" needs to continue anyway. There are maybe legions of real true fans that think of it as a religion or something, and it MUST continue, no matter what! But no, I got off the gravy train somewhere during the tail end of TNG when it got ridiculous and I'm fine with that.

It's pretty weird, though.
 
imagine being so high on the smell of your own farts you decide "nah, i quit star trek when ds9 started, when it got bad"
 
"Mudd, the charismatic conman and intergalactic criminal first introduced on Star Trek: The Original Series, is one of Trek's most-popular characters."


fucked up, if true.
 
Yes, because of all the Mudd action figures out there, and Mudd video games, and Mudd memes on the internet.

HE'S THE MAX REBO OF TREK! /s
 
SAUSAGEMAN said:
imagine being so high on the smell of your own farts you decide "nah, i quit star trek when ds9 started, when it got bad"
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Hey, I like Star Trek. I still remember it fondly. :p But when you sell somethin', by damn, you had better deliver what ya sell, right? And a prequel (in spirit, as is the case with Discovery) is a little like selling a Chris Angel level magic trick.

"We're going to tell all these new exciting stories, but within the constraints of a setting that's 10 years before TOS."

That's a damn big promise, and one that Star Trek: Axanar looked primed and ready to pull off beautifully. Then CBS killed that so they could do Discovery, set in the same time period. With a Star(fleet) Destroyer for the main ship, and not just Armadillo Klingons, but hardcore Armadillo'd Klingons. That doesn't just ignore TOS, it even ignores Enterprise.

Their idea of pulling off the magic trick of a prequel was to announce: "Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!" -- then go kick an audience member in the ball sack and yell, "Ta-daaaaa!"

I'm not saying they shouldn't give us Discovery -- I'm just saying they should be honest about what they're going to give us. It's not going to be set 10 years before TOS in the Prime timeline. If you look at what they're putting out instead of just what they're saying, they have no intention of setting it in that timeframe in the Prime universe.
 
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