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The Baby and the Lion: A Modern Fable

Sargeras said:
Flaws in the allegory? compared to what? I hadn't even mentioned what yet

what a Pavlovian response.
I don't see how it's pavlovian in any way. There are flaws in the allegory when compared to reality. Real allegories are supposed to reflact the story or reality they are repeating. As far as I can tell, this story has very little resemblance to reality.

Lions are ferocious, yet mindless animals. They act on instinct alone. Members of the African segment of the human race are intelligent human beings.

Why don't racists ever bring up genetics when talking about the "inferior" African race? For one simple reason:

The outward signs on which most definitions of race are based--such as skin color and hair texture--are dictated by a handful of genes. But the other genes of two people of the same "race" can be very different. Conversely, two people of different "races" can share more genetic similarity than two individuals of the same race.

scientificamerican.com
This means, boys and girls, that race is purely a cosmetic construct, and internally, right down to the genetic level, all races are exactly the same.
 
PreatorX said:
Really? Can you quote me scientific studies on this?
About the testosterone? I can't remember if it was in my "plethora of links," but I an supply you with examples of people of different races having slight genetic differences. If you like, I'll find a some articles.

In the meantime, you can wrap your head around this.
Dr. Herman A. Hein, professor of pediatrics at the University of Iowa, said prior research has shown that black women tend to have more premature babies than women of other races.

That is "possibly because their babies mature a little earlier and faster," which could explain why those infants have better odds of survival, he said.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060106-125034-4422r.htm



And does this also make them vicious and prone to eating babies?

I also don't recall African men being kept in cages their entire natural lives.
Do they come into white peoples homes and head straight for the baby crib?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=allegory
Get serious, kid.
 
PreatorX said:
I don't see how it's pavlovian in any way. There are flaws in the allegory when compared to reality. Real allegories are supposed to reflact the story or reality they are repeating. As far as I can tell, this story has very little resemblance to reality.
You will when you move into a black neighborhood.

Lions are ferocious, yet mindless animals. They act on instinct alone. Members of the African segment of the human race are intelligent human beings.
Yes, but still more prone to violence.
http://www.amren.com/color.pdf

Why don't racists ever bring up genetics when talking about the "inferior" African race? For one simple reason:
I never said they were inferior. Another Pavlovian response, bravo.


This means, boys and girls, that race is purely a cosmetic construct, and internally, right down to the genetic level, all races are exactly the same.

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This means, boys and girls, that race is purely a cosmetic construct, and internally, right down to the genetic level, all races are exactly the same.
This really shows on poorly equipped with knowledge you are for this debate.
 
For example, detailed lists of potential victims were made and maintained using Dehomag statistical machinery, and meticulous records of the killings were produced (for example, the precise counts of executed Jews in the Höfle Telegram). As prisoners entered the death camps, they were made to surrender all personal property to the Nazis, which was then precisely catalogued and tagged, and for which receipts were issued. In addition, considerable effort was expended over the course of the Holocaust to find increasingly efficient means of killing more people; for example, by switching from carbon monoxide poisoning in the Aktion Reinhard death camps of Belzec, Sobibór, and Treblinka to the use of Zyklon B at Majdanek and Auschwitz.
In his book Russia's War, British historian Richard Overy describes how the Nazis sought more efficient ways to kill people. In 1941, after occupying Belarus, they used mental patients from Minsk asylums as guinea pigs. Initially, they tried shooting them by having them stand one behind the other, so that several people could be killed with one bullet, but it was too slow. Then they tried dynamite, but few were killed and many were left wounded with hands and legs missing, so that the Germans had to finish them off with machine guns. In October 1941, in Mogilev, they tried the Gaswagen or "gas car". First they used a light military car, and it took more than 30 minutes for people to die. Then they used a larger truck exhaust and it took only eight minutes to kill all the people inside.
Alleged corporate involvement in the Holocaust has created significant controversy in recent years. Rudolf Hoess, Auschwitz camp commandant, said that far from having to advertise their slave labour services, the concentration camps were actually approached by various large German businesses, some of which are still in existence. Technology developed by IBM also played a role in the categorization of prisoners, through the use of index machines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_holocaust
 
Sargeras said:
You will when you move into a black neighborhood.

Yet, I've never seen Africans drop an atomic bomb on anyone, kill millions of people in gas chambers, hold yearly riots due to a few parades, execute an entire class of citizens. The entire human race is violent and bloodthirsty. You'll also find that in any poor neighbourhood violent crime will dramatically increase. It is well known statistically that the African American population is on average poorer than the white population.


Yes, but still more prone to violence.
http://www.amren.com/color.pdf

Not gonna read your racist propoganda.


I never said they were inferior. Another Pavlovian response, bravo.

Alright, I'll give you that. Then what exactly is your point?


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Why repeat myself, when the evidence is all around us?

Not gonna read your racist propoganda.

This really shows on poorly equipped with knowledge you are for this debate.

You're right there. But argueing a serious debate on TK is like arguing with the Mormons who come to my doorstep. Useless and just leading to wasted breath.
 
Sargeras said:
Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.

Wikipedia has already proclaimed itself to be pro-Israel. That should get even leftists in an uproar.

Yet the entire Wikipedia article on the Holocaust is based on evidence. This is because there is more evidence for the holocaust than most other historical events.

Do you believe that Julius Caesar conquered Gaul? That Alexander the Great existed? That the Picts and Scotti invaded England?

There is more real, historical evidence that the Holocaust actually happened than there is for these other historical events. How do you explain this mountain of evidence?
 
PreatorX said:
Yet, I've never seen Africans drop an atomic bomb on anyone,
Like they would invent the technology.

kill millions of people in gas chambers,
never happened

hold yearly riots due to a few parades, execute an entire class of citizens.
they do.
The entire human race is violent and bloodthirsty. You'll also find that in any poor neighbourhood violent crime will dramatically increase.
Wrong. West Virginia has an extraordinarily large group of poor people. The crime rate is incredibly low, and guess what? It's mostly white.


It is well known statistically that the African American population is on average poorer than the white population.
Yes.




Not gonna read your racist propoganda.
those are links to scientific journals.

the earth is round, propaganda, yes.



Alright, I'll give you that. Then what exactly is your point?
That people are ready to jump down other peoples' throats if it has to do with deviating from the status quo of total indifference to race. people can be poorly educated, but are always well-indoctrinated.




You're right there. But argueing a serious debate on TK is like arguing with the Mormons who come to my doorstep. Useless and just leading to wasted breath.
http://www.trollkingdom.net/forum/showthread.php?t=32319
Did you even click it when I offered it in the shoutbox?

We managed to pull it off before, before BSS fumbled the ball for africans, and jack started acting like an idiot.
 
PreatorX said:
Yet the entire Wikipedia article on the Holocaust is based on evidence. This is because there is more evidence for the holocaust than most other historical events.
just so you know, wikipedia actively moniters threads regarding the holocaust. it's based on falsified sources.


Do you believe that Julius Caesar conquered Gaul? That Alexander the Great existed? That the Picts and Scotti invaded England?
Sure.


There is more real, historical evidence that the Holocaust actually happened than there is for these other historical events. How do you explain this mountain of evidence
Maybe because it supposedly happened more recently? :roll:
 
Sargeras said:
He's Jewish. Must be self-hating, huh?

Just watch the video. The caretakers of the facility can't answer his questions, and even the director admits in the video that the crematoria were rebuilt.

The fact that he's Jewish means what exactly? That by being Jewish, we're all automatically in on the scam? Pull your skirt down. That video is the most revolting of all propaganda. Just more deliberate spite over the fact that it was so horrific, what happened, that people would rather listen to this bullshit than consider healthy shame and remorse over unspeakable acts of brutality and viciousness [/rant]

I know I know, Oswald was the lone gunman too, and a boeing jumbo jet hit the Pentagon :bigass:
 
jack said:
The fact that he's Jewish means what exactly?
That he would seem to be the last person who would be antisemitic.
That by being Jewish, we're all automatically in on the scam?
No. It's not a scam. It's a self-propogating and overblown account of what people experienced in concentration camps. Only the wildest fringe racialists believe that head honcho Jews come together to sit in a dark room around an oblate table to discuss world domination.


That video is the most revolting of all propaganda.
where is the emotion, jack? The kid is hardly some charismatic Hitler. He's not trying to appeal to some sort of nationalism or racial pride. He is a Jew who disputes the occurence of the Holocaust.

I don't think you can really discern between something presented as a fact, or at the very least, and honest question, and propaganda.


Just more deliberate spite over the fact that it was so horrific, what happened, that people would rather listen to this bullshit than consider healthy shame and remorse over unspeakable acts of brutality and viciousness [/rant]
LOL Shame? I did nothing. LOLOL! Maybe you should start recompensating the decendants of black slaves, jack. After all, most slave traders were Jewish. Since Germany is still paying Israel, you should start paying blacks. LOL


I know I know, Oswald was the lone gunman too, and a boeing jumbo jet hit the Pentagon :bigass:
Still wrestling with that strawman? I think he's winning.
 
FOR ALL TO SEE

http://reportersnotebook.com/video/david_cole/david_cole_high_resolution.wmv

That is the video in question. i humbly ask anyone with a minute to spare to set it for d/l, and watch it for 10 minutes.

It's a young Jewish kid who takes a camera to Auschwitz, and interviews a tour guide, then director Piper.

Since this short film was made public, David Cole (the kid) has recieved numerous death threats.

I'm asking you to watch it. I'm not asking you to believe. Just watch....
 
No, the Zapruder film was edited. The unedited version shows Lyndon Johnson fucking Kennedy in the throat right after the first shot.
 
jack said:
No, the Zapruder film was edited. The unedited version shows Lyndon Johnson fucking Kennedy in the throat right after the first shot.
LOL THE holocaust happened, and I'm the ghost of Elvis! LOL!!!!!
 
jack said:
I've actually been listening for years. Because it's interesting you know?
oh ok here is the part where I ask "what's interesting?" and the next part is where you tell me, instead of simply telling me in the first place.
 
Sargeras said:
FOR ALL TO SEE

http://reportersnotebook.com/video/david_cole/david_cole_high_resolution.wmv

That is the video in question. i humbly ask anyone with a minute to spare to set it for d/l, and watch it for 10 minutes.

It's a young Jewish kid who takes a camera to Auschwitz, and interviews a tour guide, then director Piper.

Since this short film was made public, David Cole (the kid) has recieved numerous death threats.

I'm asking you to watch it. I'm not asking you to believe. Just watch....
just so this doesn't get drowned out by bullshit . . .
 
I picture you palming your meat to the reflection in your monitor while you post that, which is pretty disgusting, synaptically.
 
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