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The Gul's Psychotic Break/WF Implosion Banpool...

Oerdin said:
This thread is much better with Gear on ignore. His attempts to disrupt the thread disappear and the conversation can go on.
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And on and on. Its a thread about nothing. An echo of eternity. At least with Gear's posts this thread doesn't seem so stiff.
 
gturner said:
Yep. Sounds like a repeat of their behavior during the violet room fiasco.

And of course the odds of anyone getting banned for talking smack about me in that same Help Desk thread are zero.
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Consistency is not their stro point. Eliminating inconvenient truth telling opposition apparently is their priority. Otherwise shitgeels like John would have been banned for flaming you in the help desk.

That, apparently, is allowed but daring to say John acted like a man child, which is objectively true, must not be allowed.
 
Volpone said:
"The Shelter" is a Super Secret Staff-Only Star Chamber, where the Staff discusses what to do about Problem Children. But because WF is Fair and Open, they decided to put someone in charge of de-classifying (and redacting as required) resolved discussions. So now they do any actual dirty work by PM. And yes, it is as self-important and ridiculous as it sounds.
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This. It is where the self declared "cool kids" decide how to fuck over other people, selectively enforce the rules, and plot how best to silence objections.

It should be extremely limited with no mods not allowed but instead half of the forum membership is there as an elite clique. It's pathetic and most of those conversations should be happening out in the open with off the record PMs about official business banned.
 
Volpone said:
Just for the record (and so Anc can have some more grist to distort to suit his beliefs), I'd dealt with the Gang of Four long enough to know that no method of persuasion would make them change their mind. But I made a cursory good faith effort before escalating. My thought was, if the argument was that banning GTurner would make WF a Better Place, I could certainly make posts that would drive away far more traffic than GTurner allegedly was doing. I really didn't hold any illusions that this would get GTurner unbanned (refer back to the first sentence) but if you can't have win-win and you can't win a win-lose scenario, your options are down to accepting lose-win or playing lose-lose. So I chose the latter. I still haven't decided if I was successful or not.

On the one hand, it derailed and distracted from the "why is GTurner banned?" debate. But since that debate was going nowhere anyway, it really didn't matter. And now we've got the "why are Volpone and Ramen unbanned while GTurner is still banned?" debate, which is similar but possibly more entertainingly absurd (witness Anc's mental contortions). On top of it, I got banned (twice) outside of the standard warning/ban process and then they retroactively made a rule to ban me and Ramen over, which is pretty damned entertaining. I especially enjoy that they felt they needed a rule (even retroactively) to ban me, but still can't explain what rule GTurner broke to deserve banning (apart from being a "cancer" to the board--and I wish I could say I was being hyperbolic in putting that in quotes, but that's the actual position from at least 2 of the Staff.)

When The Gang of Four took over, I exported my Blue Room blog and stopped posting to it. However in the past year or two I resumed and haven't got around to exporting the new content. It wouldn't be the end of the world if I lost it, but I'd prefer to have it for posterity. So for now I'll just stay away. Besides, at this point the only thing worth doing is seeing how many new absurd rules they can make in completing the TBBSification of WF. :(
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This. A thousand times this.
 
Oerdin said:
This. It is where the self declared "cool kids" decide how to fuck over other people, selectively enforce the rules, and plot how best to silence objections.

It should be extremely limited with no mods not allowed but instead half of the forum membership is there as an elite clique. It's pathetic and most of those conversations should be happening out in the open with off the record PMs about official business banned.
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If you had any reading comprehension skills at all, you'd know from the threads on the issue that most of the staff were pissed that the shit was discussed over PM.

But you don't fucking care. It's been all about your butthurt from getting smacked for being called the racist shitheel that you once accused people like Sokar of being. Most of the conservatives you've gone out of your way to insult and degrade and demonize have no fucking use for you either.

At any event, it's a week long ban and you were gonna quit WF forever anyway. At least Volpone and Ramen are sticking to it. For now, at least.
 
Oerdin said:
Multiple warnings about the same post, eh? My the rules have gotten quite elastic in both their definition and application of late.
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No, dumbass. You got warned for two posts in that thread, and banned because of your unrepentant idiotic prejudices specifically targeting a member of the board. In otherwords, you're an unrepentant asshole who failed to do a spotcheck and notice where the fuck you were posting.

Here, let me quote Christopher:
Christopher@WF said:
An aside: This should be common sense enough that this rule shouldn't need to be invoked, even retroactively, in an event of a banning.
But should anyone want to lawyerball @Dinner's ban, remember that this is the Help Desk, which does not have the protections of the Red Room in place, there have been many friendly warnings over time in this forum about trolling and/or flaming in the Help Desk, there have been prior warnings handed out in this thread, and I specifically asked to keep this thread civil in the first post. If he chooses to take umbridge over this, I invite him to do so in a new thread upon his return in one week.
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You done fucked up, son. But instead of whining how you're being persecuted over here, why don't you do so when you get let back in when your ban's up. I'm sure Christopher, Krieg and shootER will hear you out.
 
gturner said:
Once again, Islam is not a race, it's a cultish religion (try leaving) - like Scientology.

Try checking the #exMuslim twitter feed

Many great and brave people have managed to escape it.
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Proper term is probably 'religiousist' and that's just awkward. While I frankly agree 'racist' is the wrong term to use, it's somewhat pedantic to get hung up on it when the message being conveyed is clear.
 
gturner said:
Once again, Islam is not a race, it's a cultish religion (try leaving) - like Scientology.
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It's just the other side of the centerline from Naziism on the spectrum of "religious trappings <----------------> unvarnished barbarism".

The Third Reich used runes like ornaments, while orthodox muslims cleave a little closer to their brand of primitive superstition. But it's purely a difference in degrees, not directions.

Nazis, classic and neo-, are subhuman shit. So are orthodox muslims, and in exactly the same ways.
 
Lilac said:
Proper term is probably 'religiousist' and that's just awkward. While I frankly agree 'racist' is the wrong term to use, it's somewhat pedantic to get hung up on it when the message being conveyed is clear.
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Religion is just an idea and every idea is oprn for criticism. Especially religion so I reject the idiots who want to pretend religious ideas are some how off limits.
 
Lilac said:
No, dumbass. You got warned for two posts in that thread, and banned because of your unrepentant idiotic prejudices specifically targeting a member of the board. In otherwords, you're an unrepentant asshole who failed to do a spotcheck and notice where the fuck you were posting.

Here, let me quote Christopher:

You done fucked up, son. But instead of whining how you're being persecuted over here, why don't you do so when you get let back in when your ban's up. I'm sure Christopher, Krieg and shootER will hear you out.
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Yeah.... Right... Pointing out that John behaved like a man child when he stealth banned GT, told him if he told anyone about the stealth ban he would permabanned ban GT, then lied to our face denying it ever happened... That was "flaming" but John actually flaming GT in the same thread is magically not flaming.

So let us stop pretending there are not clear double standards being used here.
 
Well, for John, Gul, and quite a few others my mere existence is "triggering". They can't control themselves or do anything more than emote and lash out. The bubble must be maintained. The narrative can't be questioned.
 
It would be shameful... but at this point, it's just hilarious.

"We had to ban all the posters, they were chasing off all the posters!"

:sarek:
 
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Oerdin said:
Religion is just an idea and every idea is oprn for criticism. Especially religion so I reject the idiots who want to pretend religious ideas are some how off limits.
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You attacked a British woman you don't know, who does not practice religion, in the Help Desk, because she was second generation Iranian and had the audiacity to be a friend and former partner of a board member. For the crime of her family origins and ethnicty she was branded a terrorist.

This has never been about Islam for you. You are a racist....and you cannot claim it's about Islam when you attack people who don't follow Islam just for having parents who were born in an Islamic country. Make no mistake, you are the reason I am not posting at WF. Your disgusting hatred is driving people away....and that you have to come here and be patted on the back by twats like gtardo and, of all people, the substance abuser Castle, just shows you how far you've placed yourself in the gutter. You're scum.

But don't worry, you'll win. As soon as your ban is lifted you'll be back there spreading your hatred, and there's no way I'm going to associate with racist filth.
 
Oerdin said:
Yeah.... Right... Pointing out that John behaved like a man child when he stealth banned GT, told him if he told anyone about the stealth ban he would permabanned ban GT, then lied to our face denying it ever happened... That was "flaming" but John actually flaming GT in the same thread is magically not flaming.

So let us stop pretending there are not clear double standards being used here.
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You're sitting out a short ban for flaming in the Help Desk. Period. You're not that big a deal.
 
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