Menu
What's new
Troll Kingdom

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

What's wrong with being an 'elitist'?

I'll assume you're talking about Obama.

He's a giant hyppocrite. It's always been that the democrats are for the working man, blue-collar voters. The republicans are for the elitist, businessman, white-collar voters. If he acts like a republican, then he needs to switch teams. I think he makes a better republican than a democrat anyway. What with his racist tendencies and his elitist pseudo-high-brow attitude toward working men and people he calls "hicks"*.


*In a banquet held for some of his higher-paying constituents Obama was quoted as calling the voters from PA (one of the largest democrat-voting states in America) "hicks". Thus why he summarily lost PA against Hillary by double-digit numbers.
 
I have a real problem with people who think they're better than me simply because I don't make a seven figure salary. When, it's a fact that less than 10% of americans make more than a million dollars a year.
 
I would, however they didn't raise enough money to get put on the PA ballot. So, I'm just gonna have to write them in.

ballot-access-33.gif
 
The Libertarian Party has faced opposition from both Republicans and Democrats in gaining a position on the ballot. They're afraid of someone else elbowing-in on their monopolies. They've filed lawsuits against Oklahoma and are preparing to file one against Pennsylvania for disenfranchising voters. Even though they have the required number of signatures (actually in PA, they have twice the required amount) on petitions to get a candidate on the ballot, they've been overturned or stalled several times. It's estimated that dems have sunk over $30million to obstruct third or small parties from gaining access to the ballot in PA alone.
 
What's truly fucked-up is that even though it's PA law to make it available to put write-in ballots it IS NOT law to make sure they're tallied.
 
Conchaga said:
I'll assume you're talking about Obama.

He's a giant hyppocrite. It's always been that the democrats are for the working man, blue-collar voters. The republicans are for the elitist, businessman, white-collar voters. If he acts like a republican, then he needs to switch teams. I think he makes a better republican than a democrat anyway. What with his racist tendencies and his elitist pseudo-high-brow attitude toward working men and people he calls "hicks"*.


*In a banquet held for some of his higher-paying constituents Obama was quoted as calling the voters from PA (one of the largest democrat-voting states in America) "hicks". Thus why he summarily lost PA against Hillary by double-digit numbers.
Click to expand...

Hmm. I think policy platforms are a better proxy for whether someone's really a Democrat or Republican than whatever social preferences one might impute to them. Of course, I went to college, so maybe I'm an elitist too.
 
Conchaga said:
I have a real problem with people who think they're better than me simply because I don't make a seven figure salary. When, it's a fact that less than 10% of americans make more than a million dollars a year.
Click to expand...

Who thinks that? Seems pretty rude.
 
Yeah, like the Government-provided health care really works well. Go down to a VA hospital and see how good those docs really are. Hell, most doctors who work for the government weren't good enough to get real jobs as private practice doctors, so they went somewhere that can't refuse cheap labor.

Also, if the government wanted to help the private medical sector, they'd stop making it mandatory to have malpractice insurance. HOLY HELL. That's like saying, we know you're gonna screw up, and that's ok, but we just want to make sure you can pay-out to families when you DO screw up. What kind of fucked up logic is that!?

In my opinion, if a doctor transplants a white guy's hand onto a black guy's leg, then he doesn't deserve to be a doctor any more. He should go become a botanist. At least then, splicing is ok.

And fuck those insurance companies who know that they now have a monopoly for hiking-up their rates.

You want better health care. Get the government out of it.

Also, if you want better roads, let the FREE MARKET pay for it.

The PA turnpike was recently turned back over to the private sector because the state couldn't handle the finances and the roads were becoming more and more horrible. Ever since the turnover last year, the turnpike has stayed the same price and the roads have improved.

If you want to knock privatization, do your research first.
 
Clearly your anecdote about the PA turnpike proves that the FREE MARKET is always the best solution for any allocation of goods and services.
 
Conchaga said:
Also, if the government wanted to help the private medical sector, they'd stop making it mandatory to have malpractice insurance. HOLY HELL. That's like saying, we know you're gonna screw up, and that's ok, but we just want to make sure you can pay-out to families when you DO screw up. What kind of fucked up logic is that!?
Click to expand...
Um, it's the logic of any type of insurance: Allocate the risk of of disaster over many individuals. You think it's smarter to pretend nobody ever screws up?
 
Hero1000 said:
Um, it's the logic of any type of insurance: Allocate the risk of of disaster over many individuals. You think it's smarter to pretend nobody ever screws up?
Click to expand...

I'd rather they not pander to those who do screw up. If you want to have an umbrella against medical mistakes, don't make the doctors pay premiums that are so high that they are forced to make their patients (and their insurance companies) pay through the nose for health care. Make it a more affordable minimum and then force the doctor to realize that if he screws up, it's on THEM to pay for it. Not just have to pay some insurance company money on the off chance that they'll hack someone's arm off accidentally.

"Eh... I have malpractice insurance. I don't have to worry about being more careful with people's lives. My insurance company will pay-out. Not me."

It's scary to think about.

Another simple solution to make is depending on the degree of their malpractice revoke their licesne to practice medicine. Too many doctors today kill people accidentally and ARE STILL PRACTICING MEDICINE!!!

Maxim magazine a few years back did an article on the worst doctor in the world. They followed the career of Jayant Patel who had managed to kill more than a dozen people in the US before he went to Australia so that he could kill another dozen.

At least the Australian government decided to do the right thing and jail the incompetent moron. What did the US do? We fined him five grand and sent him on his way. I guess that says something about how much the US loves to be incredibly lenient on doctors and not on the patients they work on, huh?
 
Hero1000 said:
Clearly your anecdote about the PA turnpike proves that the FREE MARKET is always the best solution for any allocation of goods and services.
Click to expand...

It proves that privatization of roads DOES work. Which, in effect, nullifies your anti-Libertarian argument.
 
Not true. The Libertarian Party and the Green Party have all gained major support since the beginning of the Bush administration. Nearly 10% of republican voters have changed their registration to Libertarian. I think it's something close to 3% of all Democrats have change affiliation as well. You can tell that the American citizens are tired of the duopoly. Currently, there are two senators and nearly 600 public officials throughout the US who are members of the Libertarian party and were voted into office by US citizens. Frankly, everyone who asks me who I'm voting for in the upcoming election, whether it be Obama or McCain, I tell them I'm voting for Bob Barr and then proceed to tell them why. Even my parents, who are staunch Republicans have begun changing their minds. The world is changing. Hopefully for the better.

Besides, the Libertarians claim to be the third largest party in the US after Republicans and Democrats.

You wanna watch Bob Barr completely own a reporter? Watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<obj...e" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top