What's wrong with being an 'elitist'?

[Conchaga]

An aside to the above video. Since making that statement, the Libertarian party has added themselves to the ballot in 33 states. That's nearly 2million voters who've signed petitions in just over a month. I'd say he's making good with his claims to ramp-up his campaign.

 

[Hero1000]

I hope the Libertarian party gets on the ballots of all 50 states. Neither major party represents libertarian interests.

 

[jack]

An aside to the above video. Since making that statement, the Libertarian party has added themselves to the ballot in 33 states. That's nearly 2million voters who've signed petitions in just over a month. I'd say he's making good with his claims to ramp-up his campaign.

Barr will probably make a dent in the duopoly. I don't care for him very much, and will probably vote for Obama because I'm lazy and want someone else to pretend to effect change while maintaining the status quo.

That's why we have government, isn't it?

 

[Hero1000]

Barr will probably make a dent in the duopoly. I don't care for him very much, and will probably vote for Obama because I'm lazy and want someone else to pretend to effect change while maintaining the status quo.

That's why we have government, isn't it?

Cynicism is indeed lazy.

 

[Conchaga]

I have a feeling that someone will assasinate Obama in the first year of his presidency. It certainly won't be me, but I'm almost 100% certain that somebody's gonna have a beef with him being a stuck-up, ignorant, 12%-nigger asshole and will manage to murder him in a gruesome way.

 

[Hero1000]

charming

 

[Conchaga]

Think I'm wrong? Go ask some militant, right-wing Klan members and see what they think of him getting into office. What about those who belong to America's Nazi party? I'm sure several thousand people with enough hate in them will be more than happy to do the deed. They'd probably be more willing to accept a white FEMALE than a black man. They'd grumble and groan, but they'd submit. Mainly 'cause that's what they do after they take off those cone hoods and go home to their wives.

 

[Hero1000]

mmm, yeah, sounds like wishful thinking, dood.

 

[Conchaga]

Aww... c'mon. There's a part of everyone that wants to see a public figure assasinated. Especially the major jerk-offs. However, I never really wanted dubya to get popped. I think his stupidity is so hillariously career-murdering that it far outweighs my desire to see his head blown off by a large caliber rifle. I'd be kinda depressed if someone were to end the life of one of the biggest fools this country has ever elected. CNN has never been funnier.

I'm probably gonna get in trouble for mentioning the death of the potus.

 

[mauricio]

leave it to people to make a good word seem bad

 

[SuN]

I know I'm totally late, but conchaga.....mannnn, what logic lends itself to the health system being out of the governments hands??

Privatization of the health sector is a filthy disgrace, equaling the pure, opportunistic exploitation of the vulnerable. It is vile and corrupt. Nothing less.
Many other nations seem to be able to make it work, and provide A1 treatment to their citizens, with little to none cost to the individual in need.

Little old Cuba, the buggers that just received microwaves for the first time; manage....somehow.....without privatization, to not only supply the best quality health care to ALL their citizens (and just quietly...anyone else who comes in need) but also educate and send hundreds of graduates abroad to meet the medical needs of the third world.

That fat smelly prick...whatshisname.....M. More...did some lil doco called sicko that highlighted the true arse-raping of american's by the precious, brilliant, fantasticspastic private health business.

Meh, fuck that system.

 

[Conchaga]

I know I'm totally late, but conchaga.....mannnn, what logic lends itself to the health system being out of the governments hands??

Privatization of the health sector is a filthy disgrace, equaling the pure, opportunistic exploitation of the vulnerable. It is vile and corrupt. Nothing less.
Many other nations seem to be able to make it work, and provide A1 treatment to their citizens, with little to none cost to the individual in need.

Little old Cuba, the buggers that just received microwaves for the first time; manage....somehow.....without privatization, to not only supply the best quality health care to ALL their citizens (and just quietly...anyone else who comes in need) but also educate and send hundreds of graduates abroad to meet the medical needs of the third world.

That fat smelly prick...whatshisname.....M. More...did some lil doco called sicko that highlighted the true arse-raping of american's by the precious, brilliant, fantasticspastic private health business.

Meh, fuck that system.

Privatization with limited government control for cases where doctors kill people would cause the cost of healthcare to drop SIGNIFICANTLY.

And your documentary... it was done by Michael Moore. One of the most notoriously non-biased, communistic, mock-umentary (I say this, because to call any film he does a "documentary" is a big, fat joke.), pseudo-journalists to ever dis-grace the silver screen. His methods are unethical. He ommits material on purpose to suit his needs. He edits the CRAP out of the interviews he conducts. He reports un-founded claims that he literally PAYS PEOPLE TO PROVIDE. The guy is a liar.

Get your facts straight.

Cheap? Do you know that one of the best healthcare systems in the world is provided by Germany to its people? Did you also know they pay upwards of 50% income taxes? That is, by no means, cheap.

The documentary you cover doesn't go into how Canadians pay gigantic income taxes to get their "free" healthcare, also.

And when you're gonna reference a country with good healthcare, you reference Cuba!?

Are you for real? 'Cause I could swear that this is a troll. Who in their right mind would reference fucking CUBA!? A country that has managed to disenfranchise a LARGE majority of their citizens. Who taxes without representation. Who ONLY gives healthcare to those who can line Senior Castro's pockets! Who has been accused of some of the most heinous human rights violations. Cuba should be the LAST country you reference. WTF!?

Hey, I remember reading about a country that provided the best healt care and assisted living to nearly 12 million people. Unfortunately, most of the patients died. The healt care was FREE though. Too bad the government got deposed in the end. Nazi Germany was promising.

You're forbidden from speaking about this.

 

[SuN]

Privatization with limited government control for cases where doctors kill people would cause the cost of healthcare to drop SIGNIFICANTLY.

And your documentary... it was done by Michael Moore. One of the most notoriously non-biased, communistic, mock-umentary (I say this, because to call any film he does a "documentary" is a big, fat joke.), pseudo-journalists to ever dis-grace the silver screen. His methods are unethical. He ommits material on purpose to suit his needs. He edits the CRAP out of the interviews he conducts. He reports un-founded claims that he literally PAYS PEOPLE TO PROVIDE. The guy is a liar.

Get your facts straight.

Cheap? Do you know that one of the best healthcare systems in the world is provided by Germany to its people? Did you also know they pay upwards of 50% income taxes? That is, by no means, cheap.

The documentary you cover doesn't go into how Canadians pay gigantic income taxes to get their "free" healthcare, also.

And when you're gonna reference a country with good healthcare, you reference Cuba!?

Are you for real? 'Cause I could swear that this is a troll. Who in their right mind would reference fucking CUBA!? A country that has managed to disenfranchise a LARGE majority of their citizens. Who taxes without representation. Who ONLY gives healthcare to those who can line Senior Castro's pockets! Who has been accused of some of the most heinous human rights violations. Cuba should be the LAST country you reference. WTF!?

Hey, I remember reading about a country that provided the best healt care and assisted living to nearly 12 million people. Unfortunately, most of the patients died. The healt care was FREE though. Too bad the government got deposed in the end. Nazi Germany was promising.

You're forbidden from speaking about this.

No, not forbidden.

Firstly, which system bred incompetent, greedy, unethical doctors??
I guess that would be the private one....the one with all the pay offs and kick backs which are largely unrelated to actually treating medical conditions.

Also, I never said public health was cheap, but its worth the cost to ensure a fair and safe heath system accessible by all.

Btw governments cover their arse against malpractice claims pretty nicely, in fact all claims pretty much, which is again....another incentive to do a good job from the beginning, setting high standards and maintaining them.
Fuck-up doctors, are the lone riders operating under the laws put in place for privatisation, the gate opened and the horses ran.

The UK seems to be able to do a pretty good job at public health also, Dr's are well paid, happy...clients have their med needs/emergency's met... etc blahblah

And Cuba....hell... they may have some spots on their shirt, but at least they 'got' the heath thing right, and have a mandatory service for all med grads to serve the third world, ie...positively impacting the vulnerable.
Something the US with all its glory, traded for some magic beanz.


The more thing, ya I agree he is a lying goose, just thought I would mention his little media tho.

Kthnx Conchaga ya lil elitist

 

[Conchaga]

No, not forbidden.

Firstly, which system bred incompetent, greedy, unethical doctors??
I guess that would be the private one....the one with all the pay offs and kick backs which are largely unrelated to actually treating medical conditions.

Also, I never said public health was cheap, but its worth the cost to ensure a fair and safe heath system accessible by all.

Ok, so paying the doctors DIRECTLY is bad; and paying enormous taxes to well-established crooked politicians is good? Where's the fucking logic in that? I say eliminate the middle-man.

Btw governments cover their arse against malpractice claims pretty nicely, in fact all claims pretty much, which is again....another incentive to do a good job from the beginning, setting high standards and maintaining them.

The only common sense thing you've said is that we need higher standards for docs.

Fuck-up doctors, are the lone riders operating under the laws put in place for privatisation, the gate opened and the horses ran.

These MD's exist because the government created them and their phony-balogna jobs.

The UK seems to be able to do a pretty good job at public health also, Dr's are well paid, happy...clients have their med needs/emergency's met... etc blahblah

I think the British people would argue that point.

And Cuba....hell... they may have some spots on their shirt, but at least they 'got' the heath thing right, and have a mandatory service for all med grads to serve the third world, ie...positively impacting the vulnerable.
Something the US with all its glory, traded for some magic beanz.

That's the equivalent of saying, "Hitler wasn't so bad of a guy. He really meant well. He's just misunderstood. Oh, don't forget that slavery and indentured servitude are cool, too."

The more thing, ya I agree he is a lying goose, just thought I would mention his little media tho.

Yeah. You wanna know another good documentary director? Kim Jong Il.

Kthnx Conchaga ya lil elitist

I'm glad I could set your facts straight.

 

[jack]

Think I'm wrong? Go ask some militant, right-wing Klan members and see what they think of him getting into office. What about those who belong to America's Nazi party? I'm sure several thousand people with enough hate in them will be more than happy to do the deed. They'd probably be more willing to accept a white FEMALE than a black man. They'd grumble and groan, but they'd submit. Mainly 'cause that's what they do after they take off those cone hoods and go home to their wives.

I posted something to that effect earlier this year only it was supposed to happen during the campaign.

Maybe the haters figure they want to see who he's going to pick for veep first or something.

I'm in agreement with you though. I was just reading the NYT article this am about how most whites lie about whether they'll vote for a black man, right up to the time they pull the lever. It's a really odd dynamic.

 

[jack]

And your documentary... it was done by Michael Moore. One of the most notoriously non-biased, communistic, mock-umentary (I say this, because to call any film he does a "documentary" is a big, fat joke.), pseudo-journalists to ever dis-grace the silver screen. His methods are unethical. He ommits material on purpose to suit his needs. He edits the CRAP out of the interviews he conducts. He reports un-founded claims that he literally PAYS PEOPLE TO PROVIDE. The guy is a liar.

Sicko was pretty on the money. Watching Kaiser squirm out on the west coast this week after being outed over their homeless Medicare scam was entertaining.

Moore should write for the Repubs, based on your above quote.

 

[Conchaga]

Moore should write for the Repubs, based on your above quote.

They're far worse with their neo-con yellow journalism.

 

[jack]

Since whites arent a majority in America any more, how good are Obama's chances, seriously?

 

[Conchaga]

Too good for my liking.

 

[SuN]

LOL multi quote!!

I'm glad I could set your facts straight.

Heh, ya rekon?

Considering the number of US citizens without health insurance is estimated at 47 million people; with the nation holding the record for the most expensive healthcare system on the planet, haemorrhaging over 2 trillion per year while existing as the only wealthy, industrialised nation that does not have a universal health care system; I think the facts pretty much pwn any support for the shitty US heath set-up.

I think the British people would argue that point.

all people wine and sook,the brits are no different.


Btw just thought I would remind you that the US has lost all credibility regarding human rights.

So, I still reason that Cuba is better, due to the lack of hypocrisy