Why do we have troops in South Korea

[Conchaga]

^Job plz.

You want his job or were you asking for what his official job title is?
I really can't give you either.

Korea can't stay divided forever. Sooner or later someone somewhere over there is going to have to give in. Just like East and West Germany eventually became re-united, the same will be for Korea..I hope!

Well, the issue with E&W Berlin was the fact that the Soviets built the wall to prevent all the scientists and educated people from leaving. People still got across. N&S Korea have a huge demilitarized zone (anywhere from 1 mile to 100 meters wide) guarded heavily by each side. That shit ain't happening. The situation is also very different as the media is entirely controlled by Kim Jong Il in North Korea, whereas the E Berliners had radio free europe and several others broadcasting to keep information flowing. N. Korea jams the signal of Radio Liberty.

If my picture upthread isn't enough to punctuate the gulf between the technological gap between North Korea and the rest of the world, I don't know what would. It's literally going to take the death of KJI - like it took the retirement of Castro in Cuba - to move things along. Even then, it's going to take decades for things to get better.

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[YOUTUBE]ryxr0778pH8[/YOUTUBE]

When I did my little rotation over in the ROK, I helped to set up a self-destruct system on their infrastructure. If the southern part of the peninsula starts to become overrun, they hit a switch and every bridge, tunnel, and useful structure just collapses. I'd just as soon pull our guys out, fly a fake ROK fighter over the border and let them destroy the whole peninsula. What do we lose? Kia? Oh, that means we won't have to put up with their dumb hamster commercials any more. THANK GOD FOR THAT!

Seriously, if I have to see this piece of shit one more time, I'm gonna throw my TV out the window!

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[Conchaga]

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[HAND GRENADE]

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[starguard]

VIDEO TIME!
[YOUTUBE]ryxr0778pH8[/YOUTUBE]

I could have sworn I saw OS@M@ in there somewhere

 

[Conchaga]

He's the guy next to KJI clapping in tune with the beat.

 

[SuN]

The chicks are hawt + awesome gaming scene

 

[bad dog]

Obama is a dumb peice of shit, a fucking retard. he may as well suck islamic dick.

 

[starguard]

He's the guy next to KJI clapping in tune with the beat.

I knew that if there was fighting, somehow he'd be involved!

Here are some of his other nemesis (along with some of his Chix)!

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[Consumer]

Ok, back to the original question:

Eloisel, thanks for the comment. A 50 year old treaty can be revised or eliminated, I would think there were loopholes in it (re: the Philippines as an example) to let us out legally.

Prior to 9-11, Bush won on a platform of "We are not the world's Policeman", a jab at Clinton's "Lewinsky War" (and further operational testing for the F-119), but also something that I think resonated with the American People.

I think we have even LESS of a stomach for "policing" at this point. If the "Combat Phase" is over in Iraq, and we have our hands full in Afghanistan, I still don't see the logic in a Korean presence for the US military.

 

[starguard]

I guess its a matter of who blinks first. If the US backs down and leaves South Korea, the North will invade. If the North backs down and disarms itself the US will invade just like it did with Iraq!

 

[starguard]

double post

 

[Dirk Funk]

I figure we should just give the Japs nukes. Let them keep NK and China at bay. From what I understand, the idea of a nuclear armed Japan scares the living shit out of China.

 

[Conchaga]

Except that the Japanese military is merely a shell of what it used to be back when they worshiped their emperor. They could scarcely scrounge up 5,000 troops to send to Iraq to help with the situation over there. We have close to a quarter mil.

 

['Gear]

I figure we should just give the Japs nukes. Let them keep NK and China at bay. From what I understand, the idea of a nuclear armed Japan scares the living shit out of China.

You don't suppose the Japanese could hold a grudge for 65 yrs do you?

 

[Dirk Funk]

You don't suppose the Japanese could hold a grudge for 65 yrs do you?

I'm thinking more like 1500+ in the case of China.

 

[Consumer]

Except that the Japanese military is merely a shell of what it used to be back when they worshiped their emperor. They could scarcely scrounge up 5,000 troops to send to Iraq to help with the situation over there. We have close to a quarter mil.

Maybe that's true of their Army, but their Navy and Air Force are very good.

The Japanese are very "American" in how they think now, media, fad, the sense of entitlement that we feel in the USA is also felt by the Japanese. If someone wanted to stir up nationalism and "Glories past", I'll bet it could be done.

Nukes in Japan don't worry me. I like the idea of making China sweat a little.

Of course, it won't happen. China holds too much of the USA's debt, and that's leverage that the US government won't admit to, but scrapes and bows to none the less.

I'd rather IGNORE North Korea completely. Just like I'd like to Ignore Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, and Israel. Not our problem. Next time someone drives a plane into a building, we do a "demonstration strike" (with 1 hours notice to the UN and Russia) on the country where most of the perpetrators were born in.

If we get our nose out of these things, however, the incentive to attack us goes away.