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yes I watched Star Trek again

Star Trek was on the tv last night, the NEW ONE, so probalby that one, IMO.
 
It was on tv here too but I didn't bother. I find it less interesting everytime I watch it. The first five minutes are the best part. And any scene with Nero.
 
^You didn't like the shipyard scene or the bar brawl or the naked green girl or the ice planet or Scotty's Oompa Loompa-like friend or the Vulcan Academy or any of the other really cool shit that was scattered all over the movie?
 
If the shipyard scene is Kirk riding his bike up to the Enterprise being built on Earth for some reason then no not really.

I liked Pike in the bar scene. The rest was generic.

The green girl wasn't naked but she was nice and I'm glad they cut the "they all look alike!" joke.

Ice planets are ten a penny.

Keenser was okay except for Scotty treating him like a dog.

The part with all the Vulcans in their individual pods being educated was cool. BUT WHY DID VULCAN NOT HAVE A RED SKY.
 
Too late... I already forgot it.

Didn't they have Budweiser in one of those later episodes of Enterprise? You know, the one where Archer is lamenting not being the first guy to break the Warp whatever barrier?

Why do I remember that?
 
The Enterprise was being built on Earth because Utopia Planetia wasn't built until AFTER the five year mission, I believe.
 
However, I am probably wrong and will get corrected by one of the other Trek fans in 3... 2... 1...
 
It just doesn't seem to make sense to build a massive starship on Earth...and in shipyards that JUST HAPPEN to be in Kirk's hometown so he can ride a bike to it like he's in Top Gun.

Should have had him go and see the robot policeman instead.
 
As Wacky says it was on here last night as well and I did watch it. I was reading a book at the same time, though, so sort of kept an ear out for the bits I wanted to see again. The movie definitely has its flaws and I think my main issue with it would be that so much hinges on silly coincidences. A lot of TV and movies seem to do that nowadays. Instead of coming up with logical reasons for people meeting up or for events to spur characters into having particular motivations, they just say everything's "fate" and leave it at that. It's lazy, it's distracting (because as a viewer you have to keep reminding yourself "it doesn't matter, just shut your brain off dude!") and it introduces a level of mysticism that I don't think suits Trek.

Having said all that, I love any scene with Karl Urban. I love Sulu's combat moves. I love Spock's "Live long and FUCK YOURSELVES PROSPER!" to the Vulcan Academy. I love it when Spock's dad says "I married your mother... because I loved her." Gets me right there! I love any Leonard Nimoy scene. I like the Spock/Uhura relationship even if I'm not sure what she's getting out of it. It's kind of mysterious. Maybe when they're alone he does Woody Allen impressions and they both secretly laugh their arses off or something. The special effects are awesome. The music demands you to hum along. And it's just kind of fun.
 
A lot of TV and movies seem to do that nowadays. Instead of coming up with logical reasons for people meeting up or for events to spur characters into having particular motivations, they just say everything's "fate" and leave it at that. It's lazy, it's distracting (because as a viewer you have to keep reminding yourself "it doesn't matter, just shut your brain off dude!") and it introduces a level of mysticism that I don't think suits Trek.

LOST'S LEGACY.
 
I've only seen it once, and that was at the theater.... I think, shit I kind think I watched it once on tv too. NEVERMIND. It was lots of fun, and probably best not to analyze it too much.
 
Mysticism in trek is a hard subject to deal with. On one hand you have Picard's rant in "Who Watches the Watchers?" against masquerading as a god. On the other hand, you have Sisko actually being and acting like a demigod. It's true that Trek has always been pro-scientific method, but it has always allowed for spirituality and mysticism, too.
 
Rumour I heard was that the built the enterprise in George Kirk's birthplace to honour his sacrifice on the Kelvin.

And as I said many hundreds of times before and after the film came out, I have no problem them building a spaceship on the ground, after all you don't build a submarine underwater.
 
2009's Trek was exactly what it needed to be. It was a dumb, flashy, well made action film that took the basics of what most people knew about Star Trek and stuck them together in a film.

It was exactly what the franchise needed to get out of it's own ass, which is exactly where Nemesis and Enterprise had left it.

What matters now is how Star Trek Into Darkness will deal with it, if it will go back to being something more Star Trek-y now that the mass audience is paying attention, or if it's just another big stupid action film.
 
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