Are there really aliens?

[Captain Jack]

Do you think that aliens from other worlds exist? Are they really curious about us? Are they abducting humans? Why? Are the good or evil? Would their world be like ours? Do the have the same kind of moral/ethics we have? Do they value life? Are there really UFO's in Area 51?

 

[Tyrant]

Do you think that aliens from other worlds exist?

The term 'aliens' implies a civilization of lifeforms as advanced as us.

Sadly, there is NO evidence that there are others like us inhabiting the universe.

Are they really curious about us? Are they abducting humans? Why? Are the good or evil? Would their world be like ours? Do the have the same kind of moral/ethics we have? Do they value life?

I think so. And personally, I think they would look almost exactly like us (If they were carbon-based.)

Think about it, Karas: Bipedal, advanced encephalization, a lack of unnecessary hair. It's very likely, IMO, that exobiological studies would yield something almost mammalian in nature.

Read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_biochemistry

It's possible that their habitat would not experience the same cataclysmic events the Earth has in the past. They might be insects, or reptiles, sure. But these forms are not nearly as advanced as we are.

You have to understand that most 'morals' stem from our own biology.

Hope this helps.

 

[SaintLucifer]

The term 'aliens' implies a civilization of lifeforms as advanced as us.

Sadly, there is NO evidence that there are others like us inhabiting the universe.

I think so. And personally, I think they would look almost exactly like us (If they were carbon-based.)

Think about it, Karas: Bipedal, advanced encephalization, a lack of unnecessary hair. It's very likely, IMO, that exobiological studies would yield something almost mammalian in nature.

Read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_biochemistry

It's possible that their habitat would not experience the same cataclysmic events the Earth has in the past. They might be insects, or reptiles, sure. But these forms are not nearly as advanced as we are.

You have to understand that most 'morals' stem from our own biology.

Hope this helps.

No dumbass. The term 'aliens' implies beings from another world. It matters not if they are as advance or more-advanced than we are. It speaks of beings who exist on another world. What does their technological level have to do with anything you stupid fuck? A fucking AMOEBA from another world may be deemed an 'alien'. As long as it is a form of life, it is 'alien life'. Christ on a stick. You are dumber than a Canadian log.

I absolutely believe there is alien life out there. It is IMPOSSIBLE and ARROGANT to suggest we are alone.

Nope. No aliens in Area 51. Zero. Nada. Kaputsky.

 

[Lilith]

Luci, I have a challenge for you.

Argue with Messe without the use of swear words or infantile language.

Ready? Set?

Go!

 

[Tyrant]

You never show any restraint, constantly rile up against the smallest of disputes and above all would write an essay where a few well chosen words would have suited best.

Indeed; he is a shitty troll, who runs and hides when he runs out of tricks, or is confronted with genuine intellectual discourse.

 

[S. SaDiablo]

Do you think that aliens from other worlds exist?

I believe so, yes. I guess it's the optimist in me that believes that we can't be the only intelligent lifeforms in an entire universe...

Are they really curious about us?

If they do exist...sure, why not? We're curious about them, aren't we? Assuming that they're intelligent, I think they would would seek out answers and be curious about the "unknown" just like us.

Are they abducting humans? Why?

I don't believe so, no.

Are the good or evil?

That's like asking if humans are good or evil. You can't categorize an entire race. Some are good, some aren't...

Would their world be like ours?

Depends on a variety of factors. Do they breathe oxygen? Have the same dietary needs? Have the name natural resources? A bunch of little factors could make a big difference. My guess would be no.

Do the have the same kind of moral/ethics we have? Do they value life?

Again, like humans, this varies from person to person. But I think that they would value life.

Are there really UFO's in Area 51?

I'd bet on it. I'll tell you when I find out for certain.

 

[Tyrant]

No dumbass.

No dumbass? Good to know.

Everyone, the area is clear of dumbass.

"Keep it tight, people."

The term 'aliens' implies beings from another world. It matters not if they are as advance or more-advanced than we are.

A Karas was speaking in the context of little men in flying saucers which apduct people. It matters completely.

It speaks of beings who exist on another world. What does their technological level have to do with anything you stupid fuck? A fucking AMOEBA from another world may be deemed an 'alien'. As long as it is a form of life, it is 'alien life'.

Yes.

Christ on a stick. You are dumber than a Canadian log.

I wouldn't know. Do you often converse with logs?

I absolutely believe there is alien life out there. It is IMPOSSIBLE and ARROGANT to suggest we are alone.

No, nitwit. Even our sun rests in an area of the galaxy which is subject to less gamma ray bursts than others. It is completely possible that we are the only sentient lifeform in the galaxy. Are you aware of the incredible odds the planet had to overcome to be able to give birth to and maintain the existance of a lowly thug such as yourself? Low stellar variability, an orbit with the habitable zone of the sun, a highly metallic satellite?

Are you even familiar with the Drake equation?

Nope. No aliens in Area 51. Zero. Nada. Kaputsky.

 

[SaintLucifer]

No dumbass? Good to know.

Everyone, the area is clear of dumbass.

"Keep it tight, people."

A Karas was speaking in the context of little men in flying saucers which apduct people. It matters completely.

Yes.


I wouldn't know. Do you often converse with logs?

No, nitwit. Even our sun rests in an area of the galaxy which is subject to less gamma ray bursts than others. It is completely possible that we are the only sentient lifeform in the galaxy. Are you aware of the incredible odds the planet had to overcome to be able to give birth to and maintain the existance of a lowly thug such as yourself? Low stellar variability, an orbit with the habitable zone of the sun, a highly metallic satellite?

Are you even familiar with the Drake equation?

Tell me, do you have any idea how large our Universe is??

 

[Tyrant]

Tell me, do you have any idea how large our Universe is??

The observable universe is ~28.4 billion light years in diameter. There are conflicting theories in this respect. Regardless, the chances of life even coming into existence are minute despite the trillions of stars and possible planets.

It's that scarce.

 

[SaintLucifer]

The observable universe is ~28.4 billion light years in diameter. There are conflicting theories in this respect. Regardless, the chances of life even coming into existence are minute despite the trillions of stars and possible planets.

It's that scarce.

Yet we know this how??? The universe is IMMEASUREABLE because WE DON'T HAVE A CLUE AS TO IS TRUE SIZE.

Yet life happened on earth. WTF?? So much for the odds being 'MINUTE'. Any individual who makes a statement such as you have has immediately defeated his own argument with his very own existence.

 

[Lilith]

He did say "observable" universe

 

[Tyrant]

Yet we know this how???

Through deep space photography and the study of elementary particles, of course.

Don't you know anything about Quantum Mechanics, you silly billy?!

The universe is IMMEASUREABLE because WE DON'T HAVE A CLUE AS TO IS TRUE SIZE.

We do have a clue. We know that the Universe expanded from a central point. We can extrapolate this based on the current redshift of receding galaxies and quasars.

If there is no indication of an unlimited cosmic expanse, no proof of its existence, no interaction between the infinity and of our universe, then it makes no difference if it exists, does it?

Here is a bit of knowledge, youngling:

If the universe is assumed to be infinite, containing an infinite number of uniformly distributed luminous stars, then every line of sight should terminate eventually on the surface of a star. The brightness of a surface is independent of its distance, so every point in the sky should be as bright as the surface of a star.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olber's_paradox

Yet life happened on earth. WTF?? So much for the odds being 'MINUTE'. Any individual who makes a statement such as you have has immediately defeated his own argument with his very own existence.

You're so cute with your armchair philosophy and choking reaction towards actual physics! You remind me of myself, 10 years ago.

 

[Captain Jack]

Hmmm, perhaps I should have said intelligent life forms. Beings of close to, equal, or advanced technology, science and medicine in relation to us mere humans.

I've always wondered about the theories that aliens could take on different forms based on their own evolution. I do agree, though, Messenger, that they would be bipedal, and have little or no hair. A thumb would be a must, and at least four digits on each hand perhaps. Their visiul spectrum may be slightly different, or they could be more or less sensitive to light. Or have better or worse hearing than we would have, etc. But, overall, they would still be similar to us.

In a Biblical sense, God created man kind in His own image. And, in a way, God IS an alien since He is not of this world (He made this world, or changed it to accomadate humans at least). This sort of brings one to wonder, why would God only make humans on earth? He can do whatever he wants, even create beings of his likeness on other worlds too if he so chooses.

Or, even factoring out God altogether. The universe is filled with the building blocks of life. All one would need are the right conditions. And those conditions would seem to have to be similar to the conditions on earth.

I'm sort of a "UFOlogist" by hobby. I don't take it too seriously, but I am fascinated on the subject to a certain extent. The thing about a lot of cases of abductions is, there is a consistant pattern. Same kind of "grey" alien beings probing the human reproductive organs. They seem to be doing the same thing we would do if we found a new species on earth.

 

[Captain Jack]

If in fact, we were/are being visited, then clearly they have the technology to travel faster than the speed of light in order to come here and back home efficiently.

Places like Area 51, and Russia's version of Area 51 (whose name escapes me right now) which is a massive underground structure have been long rumored to house UFO's, and reverse engineering them.

It would be fascinating to know if aliens have a religion or not. Or even many religions and beliefs. It would also be interesting to find out their opinion of us. Though, I think they would see us as savages compared to them.

For thousands of years, there have been strange things going on. Even in India there is the Maha barab story of good and evil battling it out in the heavens with craft the size of cities. One side wanted to conquer earth, the other was protecting it. I got to dig that up sometime. It's a great story, and incredibly detailed in its descriptions.

 

[Starburn]

If aliens are here they're obviously illegal aliens.
Ask them for their green card if you spot them.

 

[Blindgroping]

If aliens are here they're obviously illegal aliens.
Ask them for their green card if you spot them.

Can't ever find the green card, it matches their skin...

 

[Tyrant]

If in fact, we were/are being visited, then clearly they have the technology to travel faster than the speed of light in order to come here and back home efficiently.

The speed of light cannot be exceeded, for a variety of reasons.

No exceptions.

Either they would go into a state of hibernation, or bend spacetime to somehow travel such a distance, although the latter would require a ridiculous amount of energy.

 

[Ogami]

Do I have to have a title?

A Karas wrote:

Do you think that aliens from other worlds exist? Are they really curious about us? Are they abducting humans? Why? Are the good or evil? Would their world be like ours? Do the have the same kind of moral/ethics we have? Do they value life? Are there really UFO's in Area 51?

Hi Karas, first time TK poster here.

I don't think any have visited earth. It's far easier for people to get drunk and claim they were abducted and/or probed.

When I was a teenager, I believed something like Gene Roddenberry's Federation must exist. Now I'm not so sure. If there were any groups of aliens out there, they'd probably resemble our own United Nations more than any utopian ideal.

But on the plus side, such a galactic UN would probably permit Earth to join.)

-Ogami

 

[Captain Jack]

The speed of light cannot be exceeded, for a variety of reasons.

No exceptions.

Either they would go into a state of hibernation, or bend spacetime to somehow travel such a distance, although the latter would require a ridiculous amount of energy.

The very same thing was said about breaking the speed of sound. It was done, and still is. There are a number of quite valid theories as to how the speed of light can not only be reached, but also exceeded. Sort of like a "hyperspace" fold of sorts where one is not traveling in a line or curve to get from point A to point B. More of "folding" space and hopping over. That's one theory. I got more.

 

[Captain Jack]

Hi Ogami. Nice avatar.