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Biofascism takes slap in the face from students.

Don't go using the word "always", you pretentious little cunt. You've managed to dredge up something substantial in a discussion with me exactly twice. And in this last case, your source doesn't account for the student avoidance that led to the originally discussed event.
 
Don't go using the word "always", you pretentious little cunt. You've managed to dredge up something substantial in a discussion with me exactly twice.
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I've been doing it ever since you started arguing with me, the only difference is that you're just now begining to admit it.

And in this last case, your source doesn't account for the student avoidance that led to the originally discussed event.
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You can't get fried chicken or sausage and pepperoni pizza or candy. I can see why kids who want their junk food would go somewhere else.
 
WordInterrupted said:
I've been doing it ever since you started arguing with me, the only difference is that you're just now begining to admit it.
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Excrement of a male bovine.

You can't get fried chicken or sausage and pepperoni pizza or candy. I can see why kids who want their junk food would go somewhere else.
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But you can get burgers and cheeseburgers, so why would they avoid getting burgers and instead go to... burger joints?
 
Answer me this Wordy, if children in high school need the school and their parents help to make a decision about what's healthy to eat then do you think it's wise for a child that can't even distinguish between junk food and healthy to decide to have a major medical procedure like an abortion without first consulting with her parents?
 
I don't get it shouldn't schools serve whatever they want?

If the kids don't like it, tough luck, get mommy to make your lunch.
 
But you can get burgers and cheeseburgers, so why would they avoid getting burgers and instead go to... burger joints?
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You posted the article. Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you read in the media.

Answer me this Wordy, if children in high school need the school and their parents help to make a decision about what's healthy to eat then do you think it's wise for a child that can't even distinguish between junk food and healthy to decide to have a major medical procedure like an abortion without first consulting with her parents?
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As a general rule, no, I don't think it's wise for children to have an abortion without consulting their parents. However, there are instances in which consulting with parents would make the situation worse. It depends on the specific circumstances of the child.

At any rate, I don't think it's very useful to compare school lunch menus to abortions. They are not analogous issues.
 
WordInterrupted said:
You posted the article. Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you read in the media.
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God dammit, Wordin! How many times are you gonna make me replace the Irony Meter?!

As a general rule, no, I don't think it's wise for children to have an abortion without consulting their parents. However, there are instances in which consulting with parents would make the situation worse. It depends on the specific circumstances of the child.

At any rate, I don't think it's very useful to compare school lunch menus to abortions. They are not analogous issues.
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Sure they are -- as parental information and consent issues.
 
WordInterrupted said:
As a general rule, no, I don't think it's wise for children to have an abortion without consulting their parents. However, there are instances in which consulting with parents would make the situation worse. It depends on the specific circumstances of the child.

At any rate, I don't think it's very useful to compare school lunch menus to abortions. They are not analogous issues.
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I wasn't comparing school lunches to abortions. I was simply asking if you agreed that children that can't so much as make a healthy lunch choice should be responsible for making major medical decisions. You agree that they shouldn't, I'm pleased with that.
 
I was simply asking if you agreed that children that can't so much as make a healthy lunch choice should be responsible for making major medical decisions. You agree that they shouldn't, I'm pleased with that.
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I did not say that they shouldn't be responsible for making major medical decisions. I said that in most cases, children should consult their parents before they make a decision about aborition. Such descisions are usually best made with the advice and support of parents, but I think the ultimate responsibility for the descision should rest with the person who will have to take care of the child for the next 18 years.
 
^The parents then?

I hate it when you act ignorant.
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What? Let me make it even more clear for you: I think it's a good idea for minors to consult with their parents before they get an abortion, but I don't think parental consent should be necessary to get an abortion.
 
WordInterrupted said:
What? Let me make it even more clear for you: I think it's a good idea for minors to consult with their parents before they get an abortion, but I don't think parental consent should be necessary to get an abortion.
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Parental consent for abortion should only be elective when parental support of the child is elective.
 
^^And this is possible after the child is born, how? At that point, parental support is not elective, and neither should be parental consent. Once a parent is legally bound to support the child and answer for the child legally, they have every right to make legal decisions regarding the child.
 
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^^And this is possible after the child is born, how? At that point, parental support is not elective, and neither should be parental consent. Once a parent is legally bound to support the child and answer for the child legally, they have every right to make legal decisions regarding the child.
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Yep.

Though, realistically, underage abortions will continue to happen, even if they are made illegal (or already are). Its sort of like outlawing drugs, alcohol, smoking, whatever. If there is a will, there will be a way to do it. Truthfully, if its going to happen, I'd rather it be done under controlled circumstances, rather than a dirty room with a coat hanger. That way, the female would be better protected from infection and possible death.

Yeah, its off topic. Sue me. :bill:
 
At that point, parental support is not elective, and neither should be parental consent. Once a parent is legally bound to support the child and answer for the child legally, they have every right to make legal decisions regarding the child.
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Why?
 
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Why?
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Well, for one, if the underage kid goes out and vandalizes something, or kills someone, or something like that, the parents are the ones financially responsible for paying the damages.

As such, if they are legally responsible to pay for damages, then they should be also legally responsible to make the decisions for them. Its a two way street.
 
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Why?
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Because under those conditions, the child's actions can adversely affect the parent. Therefore, the child's actions should come under the parent's control.

Unless it's your contention that individuals should be subjected to potential negative legal consequences of actions over which they have no control. Is that what you're proposing?
 
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