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The Saint said:
Come to think of it, just over 6 million not covered by the Kohrerr-Plate report, yet another instance of that magical, talisman-like number which is apparently utterly unalterable by reduction of any of its subtotals.

And to answer one of Donovan's more hilarious earlier statements, paraphrasing: "If it could be conclusively proven that only 500k died..." I believe it can be, which is why anyone who tries is blacklisted or otherwise removed from any station from which they could dispense any such finding and be regarded with the seriousness they deserve. Anyone who could prove it is rendered unable to do so or slandered/libeled to the point where no one will take them seriously if they do prove it.

You're missing my point from the beginning, which was that there should be no distinction between half a million dead ( a ridiculously low total) and the 5.5 you worry so much about. We just went to war for six years because 3,000 people died. Now, there are some who say that number is inflated. Does it make a difference in the reaction? Not really. The Nazis by deliberate act and incitement, were responsible for one of the greatest acts of planned genocide in the last century. Was it the only horrible event? No. But the Nazis' aforementioned "detailed recordkeeping" made it one of the most convenient to track. Stalin's purges, the Khmer Rouge, Rwanda, Dharfur, etc. will forever be under debate because the killings were not categorized in such detail. All we'll ever know is that lots of people died or disappeared. Unfortunately for the Nazis, they counted them all.

As for whether my statements are hilarious: I live to entertain. Although I suspect the desire to laugh at mass murder says a little more about you than me...
 
Donovan said:
You're missing my point from the beginning, which was that there should be no distinction between half a million dead ( a ridiculously low total) and the 5.5 you worry so much about.

And you're missing my point -- if the real number is 500k (I'm more inclined toward Pressac's figure of approximately 630k) then to teach 6 million is dishonest. How can anyone presume to impart a moral judgement via immoral means?

The Nazis by deliberate act and incitement, were responsible for one of the greatest acts of planned genocide in the last century.

And this is yet another point you refuse to even take into consideration: If the number was only 500-630k, and if that death toll was not the result of premeditation, it wasn't a genocide.

Was it the only horrible event? No. But the Nazis' aforementioned "detailed recordkeeping" made it one of the most convenient to track.

So we're told, over and over and over again. One would think, then, that men like David Irving and Ernst Zundel would be dragged, kicking and screaming, into the spotlight of the public eye to be flamboyantly shamed using this evidence, did this sterling evidence actually say what we're told it says. Instead, as I've noted before, anyone like them who attempts to offer any alternative to holocaust dogma (for dogma it is) is punished with blackballing, stigmatization or imprisonment. Either shut them up or put such a vortex of mockery and scorn around them that their words will be rendered meaningless; that's not the tactic of a school of thought which has solid evidence ready to hand.

Stalin's purges, the Khmer Rouge, Rwanda, Dharfur, etc. will forever be under debate because the killings were not categorized in such detail. All we'll ever know is that lots of people died or disappeared. Unfortunately for the Nazis, they counted them all.

On the Hollerith cards? So, to reiterate what I asked Jack, if those cards contain that particular set of information, why isn't such advertised in reference to the cards by anyone other than... well... you and Jack?

As for whether my statements are hilarious: I live to entertain. Although I suspect the desire to laugh at mass murder says a little more about you than me...

And your staunch refusal to question dogma says more. Funny, but you're the last one I would have taken for a zealot.
 
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